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Old August 18th, 2012, 01:08 AM
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Old August 19th, 2012, 04:39 AM
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The below is a patch for Antarctica;

1. Changed the Antarctic claim lines to the Territorial claimline color from the Administrative Division color.

2. Fixed the coloring, that is I noticed Antarctica had alot of color issues with multiple slightly off colors of white, grey and the Uninhabited seafoam color used as opposed to being uniform.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 09:42 AM
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The below is a patch for Antarctica;

1. Changed the Antarctic claim lines to the Territorial claimline color from the Administrative Division color.

2. Fixed the coloring, that is I noticed Antarctica had alot of color issues with multiple slightly off colors of white, grey and the Uninhabited seafoam color used as opposed to being uniform.
Wouldn't Antarctic work better as entirely uninhabited Green, with coloured lines for the claims? After all, they've all got colours (Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Norway, France, Chile, Argentina)?
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Old August 19th, 2012, 10:05 AM
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Wouldn't Antarctic work better as entirely uninhabited Green, with coloured lines for the claims? After all, they've all got colours (Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Norway, France, Chile, Argentina)?
No, because of the very unique situation that exists as a result of the Antarctic Treaty, plus their's one part that has so much overlap of claims it can't really be shown correctly.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 10:23 AM
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No, because of the very unique situation that exists as a result of the Antarctic Treaty, plus their's one part that has so much overlap of claims it can't really be shown correctly.
However, that map doesn't really indicate who's claiming Antartica at all.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 10:32 AM
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No, because of the very unique situation that exists as a result of the Antarctic Treaty, plus their's one part that has so much overlap of claims it can't really be shown correctly.
What unique situation? The AT protects the existing recognised claims. They're still claims. Other than that, all the AT does is ensure Antarctica remains the world's biggest nature reserve, and ensure that diplomatic conflicts between nations should be kept away from Antarctica. I just did a paper on the subject last semester.

Really, Antarctica is better represented the way it was. There's absolutely no reason you should be rid of the individual national colours for each claim.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 10:41 AM
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What unique situation? The AT protects the existing recognised claims. They're still claims. Other than that, all the AT does is ensure Antarctica remains the world's biggest nature reserve, and ensure that diplomatic conflicts between nations should be kept away from Antarctica. I just did a paper on the subject last semester.
It's the sole place on Earth that is neither part of any country and the only place in which a large chunk of land exists that is not claimed by anyone sits beside claimed areas.


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Really, Antarctica is better represented the way it was. There's absolutely no reason you should be rid of the individual national colours for each claim.
It did'nt have individual country colors used in the first place, all I did was switch it from the borders being Administrative Division color to Claim Grey.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 10:48 AM
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It's the sole place on Earth that is neither part of any country and the only place in which a large chunk of land exists that is not claimed by anyone sits beside claimed areas.




It did'nt have individual country colors used in the first place, all I did was switch it from the borders being Administrative Division color to Claim Grey.
What map were you looking at, because this is the one on the wiki

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Old August 19th, 2012, 10:53 AM
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What map were you looking at, because this is the one on the wiki
The GCS map, I do not now, nor ever will use the ones on the wiki except as sources.


On a totally unrelated note, something that's been bothering me, just what is that far South Australian Island, I did som searches and could'nt find any evidence of its existence.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 11:00 AM
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There's a lot wrong, if that is the equator.

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Those are just off the top of my head, and please feel free to correct me on any of it. I will be investigating further.
How does this look? I've moved Jarvis and to a lesser extent Baker/Howland island south and incorporated Iori's patch for the Galapagos. (Ecuador's western border with Peru is another divergence between the Iori/Morgan Hauser lineages but I've updated the coastline). As far as I can see this satisfies the points you raise.

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The GCS map, I do not now, nor ever will use the ones on the wiki except as sources.

On a totally unrelated note, something that's been bothering me, just what is that far South Australian Island, I did som searches and could'nt find any evidence of its existence.
It's Macquarie Island. Arguable whether it should be the territory colour as it's part of Tasmania (although a national park).
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Old August 19th, 2012, 11:30 AM
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And the ones south of French Kerugalen are Heard and McDonald Islands.
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Old August 20th, 2012, 01:03 AM
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It's Macquarie Island. Arguable whether it should be the territory colour as it's part of Tasmania (although a national park).
In that case it's way to far West, it should be more like the below;
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Old August 20th, 2012, 02:21 AM
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How does this look? I've moved Jarvis and to a lesser extent Baker/Howland island south and incorporated Iori's patch for the Galapagos. (Ecuador's western border with Peru is another divergence between the Iori/Morgan Hauser lineages but I've updated the coastline). As far as I can see this satisfies the points you raise.
Looks alright to me for that version; I usually go with Iori's, though.
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Old August 20th, 2012, 03:55 AM
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Here's a patch for the GCS map of Senkaku islands claim, which I jut realized was'nt shown on it.
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Old August 20th, 2012, 09:09 AM
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Is there a newly revised map of the Medieval Ages (1200, 1300, 1400)?
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 01:30 AM
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I know I just posted a fairly similar map but here's that map with some random color errors fixed, and with the longitude lines fixed.

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Old August 22nd, 2012, 05:15 AM
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Alright, this has been bothering me.

At some point Rockall was added to one of the series, however their is a major issue with it.

It's shown as claimed by others, however NO ONE claims it.

Rather the situation as it is is that Denmark, Iceland and Ireland all consider it to be an insignifcant set of rocks that thus have no territorial waters while Britain considers it an Island and thus argues that it does have territorial waters and subsequently an EEZ.

Essentially what the entire matter boils down to is disagreement over the boundary of Exclusive Economic Zones between the four, not a territorial claim on Rockall itself.
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 05:25 AM
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From the Wikipedia article, apparently it's not EEZ extension that they are worried about, but that of their continental shelf territory.

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Rockall is within the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) claimed by the United Kingdom. In 1997, the UK ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea and thus relinquished any claim to an extension of its EEZ beyond the islet. The remaining issue is the status of the continental shelf rights of surrounding ocean floor. These are the exclusive rights to exploit any resources on or under the ocean floor (oil, natural gas, etc.) and should not be confused with the EEZ, as continental shelf rights do not carry any privileges with regard to fisheries. Ownership of these rights in the Rockall area are disputed between the United Kingdom, Denmark (for the Faroe Islands), Ireland and Iceland.
I do agree, however, that we shouldn't show claims on the islet, as only the UK apparently claims it.
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 05:26 AM
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From the Wikipedia article, apparently it's not EEZ extension that they are worried about, but that of their continental shelf territory.
In the case of the Faroe Islands yes, the other two it's a dispute over Britain claiming it as an island to expand its EEZ.
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 05:31 AM
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In the case of the Faroe Islands yes, the other two it's a dispute over Britain claiming it as an island to expand its EEZ.
According to the Wikipedia article, in 1997 the British relinquished the right to extend their EEZ past it (it's already less than 200 miles from St Kilda, thus in their EEZ).
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