WI No Batman (1966-68) Series?

[J.D.Ward]

Originally Posted by ANARCHY_4_ALL

Kathrine Hepburn as Catwoman

A great actress, but not right for this role.

I see no problem with Julie Newmar as a more serious Catwoman.

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

Originally Posted by J.D.Ward

A great actress, but not right for this role.

I see no problem with Julie Newmar as a more serious Catwoman.

It just sprung into my head her look and the cat-mask lol. But I am going for a mid-70's time frame now so... of course I'm thinking Faye Dunaway?

[unclepatrick]

One of My favorite 1960's show, The Man From Uncle third season went Camp because of the success of Batman. Without Batman, maybe Man from Uncle stay a serious show and is better know today. A feature film in the 1980's 2010 remake of the Show?

[Marc Pasquin]

Originally Posted by unclepatrick

One of My favorite 1960's show, The Man From Uncle third season went Camp because of the success of Batman. Without Batman, maybe Man from Uncle stay a serious show and is better know today. A feature film in the 1980's 2010 remake of the Show?

dunno about that. From what I remember, man from UNCLE was a wee bit on the silly side to begin with and you had all those british series that a bit out there too.

[WCDouglas]

Originally Posted by Marc Pasquin

dunno about that. From what I remember, man from UNCLE was a wee bit on the silly side to begin with and you had all those british series that a bit out there too.

"Lost in Space" was is impacted, it started out serious/with lite-comic relief (original name Space Family Robinson), the first season is not a kids show. it was competion with and Studio pressure to match Batman's formua that led Allen to move the campy.

Of note NBC also made "suggestions" to Gene Rodenberry that Star Trek might do better following Batman's lead, Gene didn't listen.

[Marc Pasquin]

Originally Posted by WCDouglas

Of note NBC also made "suggestions" to Gene Rodenberry that Star Trek might do better following Batman's lead, Gene didn't listen.

good thing otherwise we'd end up with episode where the crew have to deal with a plague of cutesy little furry animals....

[unclepatrick]

Originally Posted by Marc Pasquin

dunno about that. From what I remember, man from UNCLE was a wee bit on the silly side to begin with and you had all those british series that a bit out there too.

No Man From Uncle was not on the silly side from the beginning.
Season one and most of season two had a good balance between adventure and Humor. It was season three that lost it and went silly.
Season Four was almost too dark as it try to avoid the Humor too much.

With out Batman , Season Three would have done a better job with the Balance between Humor and Adventure, Season four would not have been as dark and most likely the show would have continued for a few more seasons.

The British series I think you are referring to was the Avengers. Which was a bit out there but still fun. The last season suffered after Diana Riggs Left the show and Linda Thornton was not as interesting. The writing suffered.

[unclepatrick]

Originally Posted by ANARCHY_4_ALL

I'm working on attempt of a no campy Bat series. But instead a serious dark adaption for the screen around the same time. I'm still contemplating actors. What I'm thinking so far is Paul Newman as the Batman, Steve McQueen as Deadshot, Kathrine Hepburn as Catwoman, and Jack Nicholson as the Joker of course. The rest of the cast is still up in the air for me.

I found this article that say that James Dean would have done several films if he live longer that in the OTL Paul Newman did.
So if Dean Lives longer than Paul Newman has a worst career and is willing to do a Superhero series in the 1960's needing the work.

http://rajadevilman74sramblings.blog...728650b208284a

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

Originally Posted by unclepatrick

I found this article that say that James Dean would have done several films if he live longer that in the OTL Paul Newman did.
So if Dean Lives longer than Paul Newman has a worst career and is willing to do a Superhero series in the 1960's needing the work.

http://rajadevilman74sramblings.blog...728650b208284a

Thanks that's interesting POD. Lot's of outcomes can come from this.

[unclepatrick]

Originally Posted by ANARCHY_4_ALL

Thanks that's interesting POD. Lot's of outcomes can come from this.

If it OK with you, I like to take the idea of Paul Neuman as Batman on the TV show for a timeline I working on.

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

Originally Posted by unclepatrick

If it OK with you, I like to take the idea of Paul Newman as Batman on the TV show for a timeline I working on.

That's fine I would like to read it. Will it be dark or campy? I hope dark.

[Tocomocho]

Originally Posted by ANARCHY_4_ALL

Their plan to take Batman back to it's roots it's less complicated due to their being no campy series. The first film of the franchise comes out in 77-78. Already said Hepburn and Newman are out by the point. Deadshot is getting that rebut you spoke of and he is not the major villain with in the film. The major villains are the organized crime elements within Gotham.

Originally Posted by Simreeve

Batman carrying a gun, as he did in some of his earliest comic appearances?

Hmmm... Clint Eastwood as Batman? Or would that be too awesome for the universe to handle?

[Marc Pasquin]

Originally Posted by Tocomocho

Hmmm... Clint Eastwood as Batman? Or would that be too awesome for the universe to handle?

"I know what you're thinking. "is that the shark repelent pellet he just slipped out of his utility belt or is it the explosive batarang?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. So you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, penguin?"

[Lavanya Six]

Originally Posted by Torqumada

If you are looking to do a Batman movie at the same time as the OTL series, you're not really going to get a dark tone for the series. This was the middle of the Silver Age of comics. DC wasn't really doing anything dark with the majority of their characters at the time. Comics really were for kids at that time. It would take Oneil and Adams to move Batman towards a darker tone than that seen during the Silver Age. In addition, Jack Nicholson was a bit actor and writer at that point in time. The biggest thing he had been on was The Andy Griffith show and was known for writing the Monkees movie Head. As for the character of Deadshot: While he had been created in 1950 by Bob Kane, he was basically a one shot character until 1977 when he got his modern incarnation (the Golden Age version dressed in a tux.) I don't think anyone would use him, except maybe as a one off character that may not even get named.

Torqumada

On top of that, Batman's tone over the ensuing decades might generally be far less grim. Not light, mind you, but not the outright Batdick he was portrayed as from the late 90s through the mid-ish 2000s. There's a reason you can't buy the show on DVD, and why DC squashed a comic cover a few years back that paid tribute to the Adam West Batman. In the eyes of DC Comics, the Adam West Batman is a festering psychic wound on the franchise.

Also, no Adam West show means the Barbara Gordon Batgirl gets butterflied away. She was originally created to help sell the show's third season.

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

Originally Posted by Tocomocho

Hmmm... Clint Eastwood as Batman? Or would that be too awesome for the universe to handle?

That was my exact thought process. "Umm Clint Eastwood would be awesome." Thinks about how awesome that would be for a few nanoseconds.... BOOM brain explodes. But since someone else thought it as well it most be done. If I can find the time Eastwood as Batman will happen.

[unclepatrick]

Originally Posted by ANARCHY_4_ALL

That's fine I would like to read it. Will it be dark or campy? I hope dark.

I having the series be closer to the Animated series in tone, Dark with some humor.
I working on the details right now but unless I get more free time, The Time line "Step by Step" will be unlikely to be started till 2013.

[unclepatrick]

Originally Posted by Tocomocho

Hmmm... Clint Eastwood as Batman? Or would that be too awesome for the universe to handle?

Too Awesome? Only if he come back in the role in the 1980's to do "Dark Knight Return". A faithful adaption of Frank Miller work.

[unclepatrick]

Originally Posted by WCDouglas

"Lost in Space" was is impacted, it started out serious/with lite-comic relief (original name Space Family Robinson), the first season is not a kids show. it was competion with and Studio pressure to match Batman's formua that led Allen to move the campy.

Of note NBC also made "suggestions" to Gene Rodenberry that Star Trek might do better following Batman's lead, Gene didn't listen.

When was the last time you watch Lost in Space? The Will Robinson, Doctor Smith and the Robot Trio was in place by episode 2 and starting to dominate the show by episode 7.
Allen was all way Campy. Look at season one and two of Voyage to the bottom of the sea which were made before Batman aired.