American King: Take Two

[Turquoise Blue]

Division of Peru? Is there any opposition anywhere, apart from the Peruvians, because this seems a tad belligerent...

[techdread13]

"My learned colleagues, as you are no doubt aware in the continents of Africa and South America, the atrocities of monarchistic imperialism have shed the blood of many an innocent man, woman and child. This war which has now ended has, however, not created any true peace.

"The nation that endured the worst of war, the victim of every nation in South America; the Republic of Peru has been eliminated from the face of the Earth, and carved between the bloated titans of New World - the Empire of Gran Colombia and the United States of Rio del Plata. Such actions would be expected by the monarchical tyrants of Gran Colombia, but to see a republic, a democratic republic no less, fall to such blatant imperialism is the greatest tragedy to ever befall that continent in living memory.

"As such, the Commonwealth of Great Britain does not accept and denounces the partition of Peru and its belligerent nations. Those still remaning members of the Peruvian government that receive news of this are welcome to enter Great Britain and continue their legal role of government-in-exile, should they wish to do so. All other nations in accepting this tragedy, with support carried to the aggressor nations of Gran Colombia and Rio del Plata, will also face harsh reparations for those actions - Ignorance in the face of a crime does not render one innocent.

"All those loyal to the cause of Cromwellism* in these nations, stand up and be counted amongst those who espoused the demons of war and the oppression of those unable to stand up for themselves. In Cromwell's Name!"

- Alexander Richards, Secretary of States for the Commonwealth of Great Britain, in the House of Commons. April 7th 1845

* I thought that it might be best to give some kind of a name to Britain's new ideology, and puritanism seem too much of a religious name to use

[Rooster Cogburn]

Very nicely written chapter! And its nice to see that Hannibal Glas finally got his cameo I suppose I found out that this soldier was Whigish in politics, so I maneuvered him to getting an appointment to Philadelphia. And by the looks of it, I'd oppose entry into the war, and because of this I'd make sure that at least one of my guys would be running the operation.

Yay! Cass and Barbour Two slight problems though; Cass would leave office in 1844, so Whig James Buchanan would be the last PM under Andrew I; and I guess Upshur as last Viceroy. And Viceroy Barbour would have died in 1842, and been replaced by Martin Van Buren; I thought his appointment would be a good reconciliation factor by Cass to the absolutist Crowns. Did you get my message about how to maybe finish up politics by 1852?

And now, all Whigs must buckle down, and prepare for the onslaught that will be Andrew's successor!

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Division of Peru? Is there any opposition anywhere, apart from the Peruvians, because this seems a tad belligerent...

I would have opposed it, but not fervently; I'd never win, and I have to think about what the voters think as well. Thus is politics

Sinclair probably could have opposed it though, if she's still alive. I doubt anyone would criticize her stance.

Edit: And Techdread13, great speech!

[Napoleon53]

EDIT: Oh, and the analogue is the Balkans War right before WWI, where everyone watched second-rate nations use new technology, like planes, against each other.

Originally Posted by wiiguy

AFHBYRRUSBRYURBYUKSBK

YES

SPASMS OF OSSOM

My cameo was great! And the part about "Stonewall Jackson" made it even better. (The funniest bit? That's my actual hairstyle. )

I can see the asking-Mexico-for-an-alliance being a good POD in later years for TTL's analogue of AH.com.

Just one question though, how long has Denmark been allied to the URAS?

Do you have the sideburns, too? If so, you are more awesome than Chuck Norris.

Originally Posted by marcus_aurelius

EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE.

To recap, this is the list of The Dandy's children:

Marc Jr. was last seen in Spain along with Bob Lee, Abe Lincoln and Tom P. Davis, while Minnie hosted a reception for returning soldiers (where she may/may not have captured Abe's heart ).

In 1844, two years after Marc Sr. went back to God's bosoms (or started the Conquista of Hell ), I imagine Jr. would be on Bob Lee's level in rank, and Chuck and Andy junior or mid-ranked officers.

Marc A

P.S. Absolutely no idea about the analogy.

Thanks! That makes it quite clear. What's the wife's name? (I'll need it for the Wiki page, which I think still has you assassinated with no family.

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Division of Peru? Is there any opposition anywhere, apart from the Peruvians, because this seems a tad belligerent...

Good to see you back, TB!

*Dons pith helmet and monocle* Belligerence? I say, my good woman, it is ADVENTURE and PATRIOTISM. Marching across the Andes, flag in hand, hairy chests, beards, just being awesome, and, you know, brutally crushing a civilization.

Originally Posted by techdread13

"My learned colleagues, as you are no doubt aware in the continents of Africa and South America, the atrocities of monarchistic imperialism have shed the blood of many an innocent man, woman and child. This war which has now ended has, however, not created any true peace.

* I thought that it might be best to give some kind of a name to Britain's new ideology, and puritanism seem too much of a religious name to use

Great speech! And yeah, Cromwellism is fine. It'll probably start getting labeled Fascism in the late 1800's.

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

Very nicely written chapter! And its nice to see that Hannibal Glas finally got his cameo I suppose I found out that this soldier was Whigish in politics, so I maneuvered him to getting an appointment to Philadelphia. And by the looks of it, I'd oppose entry into the war, and because of this I'd make sure that at least one of my guys would be running the operation.

Yay! Cass and Barbour Two slight problems though; Cass would leave office in 1844, so Whig James Buchanan would be the last PM under Andrew I; and I guess Upshur as last Viceroy. And Viceroy Barbour would have died in 1842, and been replaced by Martin Van Buren; I thought his appointment would be a good reconciliation factor by Cass to the absolutist Crowns. Did you get my message about how to maybe finish up politics by 1852?

And now, all Whigs must buckle down, and prepare for the onslaught that will be Andrew's successor!

Thanks!

Darn, you're right. I need to change the PM and VR. Yeah, I got the 1852 message. 1849 is REALLY gonna shake things up, though.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

1849 is REALLY gonna shake things up, though.

I don't know whether to be giddy with excitement, or trembling with fear! Write faster!

[Bavarian Raven]

Well i did enjoy the first half of your TL a lot. it became a bit too much of a wank for my linking. nevertheless, best of luck with it. cheers.

[Napoleon53]

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

I don't know whether to be giddy with excitement, or trembling with fear! Write faster!

Will-do, Cap'n!

Originally Posted by Bavarian Raven

Well i did enjoy the first half of your TL a lot. it became a bit too much of a wank for my linking. nevertheless, best of luck with it. cheers.

Well, thanks anyway. It's kind of the whole point, though; while it may be somewhat of a wank for America, the rest of the world has some other powerhouses. I do indeed plan on the URAS losing a war or two.

[Turquoise Blue]

Eh, she probably would have spoken out against this. She's probably still alive, and the Queen consort of Canada.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by Bavarian Raven

it became a bit too much of a wank for my linking.

Andrew Jackson is the undisputed king. What did you think was going to happen?

[Napoleon53]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Eh, she probably would have spoken out against this. She's probably still alive, and the Queen consort of Canada.

Yes, still very much alive, though I'm not sure if her husband is still alive, since it'd be quite a while. She's probably the Mother of the King by now, using her son to try to achieve some more stuff before she dies. Don't worry; I plan on giving a list of everyone, including the Bonapartes, in the next chapter to show who's still alive and who has married who. Family tree time!

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

Andrew Jackson is the undisputed king. What did you think was going to happen?

That's pretty much dead-on. Once Andy is dead expect the wank to go down the tubes. People always screw up good things. I know of what I'm speaking since I'm a card-carrying monarchist who tries to dress like a 1950's Greaser and has learned how to use a Civil War cutlass. Yay for the past, I say!

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

Yes, still very much alive, though I'm not sure if her husband is still alive, since it'd be quite a while. She's probably the Mother of the King by now, using her son to try to achieve some more stuff before she dies. Don't worry; I plan on giving a list of everyone, including the Bonapartes, in the next chapter to show who's still alive and who has married who. Family tree time!

Alrighty. Will Queen Mother Gwendoline go to Andrew Jackson's funeral in Philadelphia or whatever, or will Jackson go to Gwendoline Fortier's funeral in Trois-Rivières?

[Napoleon53]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Alrighty. Will Queen Mother Gwendoline go to Andrew Jackson's funeral in Philadelphia or whatever, or will Jackson go to Gwendoline Fortier's funeral in Trois-Rivières?

She'd be 75 in 1845, so she'd probably be an important guest at Andy's funeral. I give her another year or two before she gets too old to be realistically alive (there seem to be too many people reaching their 80's in this, so I want to kill off more in their late 60's and early 70's.

EDIT: I might let her see 1849, just so she can say "The Lamps are Going Out all over Europe and America." I need somebody epic to say that, preferably one who won't see the war's conclusion, and Gwen fits the bill.

[wiiguy]

I can add a page to the wiki for my char, right?

[Napoleon53]

Originally Posted by wiiguy

I can add a page to the wiki for my char, right?

Yes, yes indeed! You can make pages for anything in the TL as long as it is properly sourced or fills in gaps correctly.

[wiiguy]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

Yes, yes indeed! You can make pages for anything in the TL as long as it is properly sourced or fills in gaps correctly.

Right, got it.

[wiiguy]

Just a question so I can start the wiki page, what is Hannibal's destiny in the army and politics?

[Napoleon53]

Originally Posted by wiiguy

Just a question so I can start the wiki page, what is Hannibal's destiny in the army and politics?

Well, he'll be a general/marshal in the 1849 conflict for one. He'll probably be VR or maybe even PM at some point, too.

[wiiguy]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

Well, he'll be a general/marshal in the 1849 conflict for one. He'll probably be VR or maybe even PM at some point, too.

Yay!

I suppose I can wing the stuff that hasnt been exlained yet, and then edit it to conform to the TL. Does the PM/VR need a noble title?

Also, just an afterthought, can one of my quotes be the eternal "Damn the <explosive device>! Full speed ahead!"

[Napoleon53]

Originally Posted by wiiguy

Yay!

I suppose I can wing the stuff that hasnt been exlained yet, and then edit it to conform to the TL. Does the PM/VR need a noble title?

Also, just an afterthought, can one of my quotes be the eternal "Damn the <explosive device>! Full speed ahead!"

Yeah, that'll work, as long as you don't mind mercilessly hacking up something you wrote if I hit some place where it's necessary. I wouldn't say they need a noble title, it's just most, if not all of them, do, because they've worked their way up and been rewarded the whole time. I'd say your character becomes a "Sir" at some point, Knight Glas.

When your character dies, I shall have to call it "Night of the Broken Glas." Get it?

EDIT: And yes, you may have that quote.