Map Thread IX

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by B_Munro

And here is the map.

Bruce

Good work, Bruce!

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Kaiphranos

Right-angle Ethiopia looks a bit odd.

I found a map that seems to claim it was supposed to be like that in OTL at some point.

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

I just noticed that Mexico has a shitload of states in this map!

Nope, those are Imperial Provinces, from Maximillian's schemes.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Nope, those are Imperial Provinces, from Maximillian's schemes.

Got it.
That one made up of OTL NW Sonora would be particularly sparsely inhabited.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Got it.
That one made up of OTL NW Sonora would be particularly sparsely inhabited.

Not my fault he was a little crazy (er, eccentric ).

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Not my fault he was a little crazy (er, eccentric ).

Yes it is! Don't shirk your responsibility!

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Yes it is! Don't shirk your responsibility!

How did you know about that time trav-er. . . never mind that you!

[Badshah]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Trying to add a bit of butterflying to Africa while keeping the same over all feel.

Interesting. What's the scenario?

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by trollhole

Interesting. What's the scenario?

It involves the US having rather more of a falling out with the UK and France than OTL. I'm thinking that the *Trent Affair ends up on a French ship and Nappy III is a bit more enthusiastic about his 'honour' than the British were. The French recognise the CSA and loan it money, and also get more involved in Mexico than OTL. The British decide to sell the CSA some supplies for quick cash too, and the USA still wins but holds a grudge.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Beedok

It involves the US having rather more of a falling out with the UK and France than OTL. I'm thinking that the *Trent Affair ends up on a French ship and Nappy III is a bit more enthusiastic about his 'honour' than the British were. The French recognise the CSA and loan it money, and also get more involved in Mexico than OTL. The British decide to sell the CSA some supplies for quick cash too, and the USA still wins but holds a grudge.

So a lot of the same OTL events (in the beginning anyway) but different attitudes towards such, with butterflies running their course?

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

So a lot of the same OTL events (in the beginning anyway) but different attitudes towards such, with butterflies running their course?

Yeah, attitudes and slightly different demographics, but until about WWI the overriding pattern is about the same.

[Ares96]

Originally Posted by Beedok

It involves the US having rather more of a falling out with the UK and France than OTL. I'm thinking that the *Trent Affair ends up on a French ship and Nappy III is a bit more enthusiastic about his 'honour' than the British were. The French recognise the CSA and loan it money, and also get more involved in Mexico than OTL. The British decide to sell the CSA some supplies for quick cash too, and the USA still wins but holds a grudge.

Did something like the Alabama Claims controversy happen ITTL? What with the British selling the Confederates arms more openly, I could see it being even more disastrous for the British.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Ares96

Did something like the Alabama Claims controversy happen ITTL? What with the British selling the Confederates arms more openly, I could see it being even more disastrous for the British.

Yes, sort of like that, but the Americans were even angrier so demanded even more (the All of Canada or 2 Billion Dollars like that one guy would after is about in line) and the British got defensive about it, and so it added on an angry note, the British grudgingly paying a bit more than OTL, but the Americans being angry that it wasn't enough.

[Ares96]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Yes, sort of like that, but the Americans were even angrier so demanded even more (the All of Canada or 2 Billion Dollars like that one guy would after is about in line) and the British got defensive about it, and so it added on an angry note, the British grudgingly paying a bit more than OTL, but the Americans being angry that it wasn't enough.

I could see Sumner and Seward being more aggressive toward the British ITTL, definitely. The British, I think, would also be less willing to just pay and be done with it, since the Confederacy wasn't completely unrecognised, and so it can't be seen to the same extent as 'selling arms to rebels'. The result would likely be the same as OTL, but with harder feelings, and there'd probably be less of a rapprochement between the US and the British ITTL.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Ares96

I could see Sumner and Seward being more aggressive toward the British ITTL, definitely. The British, I think, would also be less willing to just pay and be done with it, since the Confederacy wasn't completely unrecognised, and so it can't be seen to the same extent as 'selling arms to rebels'. The result would likely be the same as OTL, but with harder feelings, and there'd probably be less of a rapprochement between the US and the British ITTL.

that's about what I'm after.

[Mac Gregor]

A 1950 world map from my TL.

[Vexacus]

Originally Posted by Mac Gregor

A 1950 world map from my TL.

So, the world in your TL was just a red X?

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Vexacus

So, the world in your TL was just a red X?

That's a BAM!!!!!

DO NOT QUOTE!!!!

[Zheno]

I only got a red X box. Do you got a link to the picture?

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Zheno

I only got a red X box. Do you got a link to the picture?

Delete it from your post first!

[Lascupa0788]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Delete it from your post first!

Um, there is nothing and has been nothing in either post, at least on my end.