Retrospective US Presidential Election Results Thread - Page 84

Æsir · #**1661** July 14th, 2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

Meh. Only if you count them as a major party.

(And yes, I suppose they would be, since they finished second in 1992.)

Except they weren't running that year.

Nerdlinger · #**1662** July 14th, 2012, 12:50 AM

This is true. Perot was independent that year, even though I keep associating him with the Reform Party in 1992. This means that the Reform Party isn't really a major party here, so I did in fact vote for every major party at least once. Ha. My wrongness proves me right.

Dean501 · #**1663** July 14th, 2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

This is true. Perot was independent that year, even though I keep associating him with the Reform Party in 1992. This means that the Reform Party isn't really a major party here, so I did in fact vote for every major party at least once. Ha. My wrongness proves me right.

You didn't vote for the party of people that don't actually have a party and are therefore not really a party!

metastasis_d · #**1664** July 14th, 2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

This is true. Perot was independent that year, even though I keep associating him with the Reform Party in 1992. This means that the Reform Party isn't really a major party here, so I did in fact vote for every major party at least once. Ha. My wrongness proves me right.

What is the cutoff for 'major'?
I guess Prohibition doesn't make the cutoff.

Glen · #**1665** July 14th, 2012, 03:08 AM

1789 - George Washington (Non-Partisan)
1792 - George Washington (Non-Partisan)
1796 - John Adams (Federalist)
1800 - John Adams (Federalist)
1804 - Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1808 - Charles Pinckney (Federalist)
1812 - James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1816 - Rufus King (Federalist)
1820 - DeWitt Clinton (Independent)
1824 - John Quincy Adams (National-Republican)
1828 - John Quincy Adams (National-Republican)
1832 - Henry Clay (National Republican)
1836 - Daniel Webster (Whig)
1840 - James Birney (Liberty)
1844 - Henry Clay (Whig)
1848 - Gerrit Smith (Liberty)
1852 - Winfield Scott (Whig)
1856 - John Fremont (Republican)
1860 - Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1864 - Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1868 - Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1872 - Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1876 - Peter Cooper (Greenback)
1880 - James Garfield (Republican)
1884 - Benjamin Butler (Greenback)
1888 - Alson Streeter (Union Labor)
1892 - James Weaver (Populist)

1900 - Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1904 - Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1908 - Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1912 - Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
1916 - Charles Hughes (Republican)
1920 - Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1924 - Robert La Follette (Progressive)
1928 - Al Smith (Democrat)
1932 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1936 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1940 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1944 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1948 - Harry Truman (Democrat)
1952 - Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1956 - Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1960 - John Kennedy (Democrat)
1964 - Lyndon Johnson (Democrat)
1968 - Hubert Humphrey (Democrat)
1972 - George McGovern (Democrat)
1976 - Gerald Ford (Republican)
1980 - James Carter (Democrat)
1984 - Walter Mondale (Democrat)
1988 - Michael Dukakis (Democrat)
1992 - William Clinton (Democrat)
1996 - William Clinton (Democrat)
2000 - Albert Gore (Democrat)
2004 - John Kerry (Democrat)

Nerdlinger · #**1666** July 14th, 2012, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by metastasis_d

What is the cutoff for 'major'?
I guess Prohibition doesn't make the cutoff.

I say any party that placed at least second in any of the elections here.

metastasis_d · #**1667** July 14th, 2012, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

I say any party that placed at least second in any of the elections here.

Sounds good.
I almost asked for a list of those, but then I realized that would have been a dumb question.

QuoProQuid · #**1668** July 14th, 2012, 04:12 AM

Put this together in a few minutes in MS Paint.

Porthos · #**1669** July 14th, 2012, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by QuoProQuid

Put this together in a few minutes in MS Paint.

Going out on a limb with the Hawaii predicition, eh?

Justin Green · #**1670** July 14th, 2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Porthos

Going out on a limb with the Hawaii predicition, eh?

A limb that puts most tree trunks to shame

Glen · #**1671** July 14th, 2012, 05:11 AM

EDIT - Note that this is a combination of who I would have liked (for polls I didn't get a chance to vote in) and who I did vote for (sometimes not my first choice but rather someone I was okay with and had a chance of beating someone I really didn't want).

DATE - WINNER (PARTY) - MY PICK (PARTY)
1789 - George Washington (Non-Partisan) - George Washington (Non-Partisan)
1792 - George Washington (Non-Partisan) - George Washington (Non-Partisan)
1796 - John Adams (Federalist) - Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800 - John Adams (Federalist) - Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1804 - Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) - Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1808 - Charles Pinckney (Federalist) - James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1812 - James Madison (Democratic-Republican) - James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1816 - Rufus King (Federalist) - Rufus King (Federalist)
1820 - DeWitt Clinton (Independent) - James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1824 - John Quincy Adams (National-Republican) - John Quincy Adams (National-Republican)
1828 - John Quincy Adams (National-Republican) - John Quincy Adams (National-Republican)
1832 - Henry Clay (National-Republican) - Henry Clay (National-Republican)
1836 - Daniel Webster (Whig) - Daniel Webster (Whig)
1840 - James Birney (Liberty) - James Birney (Liberty)
1844 - Henry Clay (Whig) - Henry Clay (Whig)
1848 - Gerrit Smith (Liberty) - Martin Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852 - Winfield Scott (Whig) - Winfield Scott (Whig)
1856 - John Fremont (Republican) - John Fremont (Republican)
1860 - Abraham Lincoln (Republican) - Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1864 - Abraham Lincoln (Republican) - Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1868 - Ulysses Grant (Republican) - Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1872 - Ulysses Grant (Republican) - Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1876 - Peter Cooper (Greenback) - Peter Cooper (Greenback)
1880 - James Garfield (Republican) - James Garfield (Republican)
1884 - Benjamin Butler (Greenback) - James Blaine (Republican)
1888 - Alson Streeter (Union Labor) - Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1892 - James Weaver (Populist) - Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1896 - Charles Machett (Union Labor) - William McKinley (Republican)
1900 - Eugene Debs (Socialist) - William McKinley (Republican)
1904 - Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) - Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1908 - Eugene Debs (Socialist) - William Taft (Republican)
1912 - Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive) - Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
1916 - Charles Hughes (Republican) - Charles Hughes (Republican)
1920 - Eugene Debs (Socialist) - James Cox (Democrat)
1924 - Robert La Follette (Progressive) - Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1928 - Al Smith (Democrat) - Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1932 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat) - Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat) - Alf Landon (Republican)
1940 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat) - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1944 - Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat) - Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1948 - Harry Truman (Democrat) - Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1952 - Dwight Eisenhower (Republican) - Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1956 - Dwight Eisenhower (Republican) - Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1960 - John Kennedy (Democrat) - Richard Nixon (Republican)
1964 - Lyndon Johnson (Democrat) - Lyndon Johnson (Democrat)
1968 - Hubert Humphrey (Democrat) - Hubert Humphrey (Democrat)
1972 - George McGovern (Democrat) - Richard Nixon (Republican)
1976 - Gerald Ford (Republican) - Gerald Ford (Republican)
1980 - James Carter (Democrat) - Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1984 - Walter Mondale (Democrat) - Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1988 - Michael Dukakis (Democrat) - George Bush (Republican)
1992 - William Clinton (Democrat) - George Bush (Republican)
1996 - William Clinton (Democrat) - Robert Dole (Republican)
2000 - Albert Gore (Democrat) - Albert Gore (Democrat)
2004 - John Kerry (Democrat) - George Bush (Republican)
2008 - Barak Obama (Democrat) - John McCain (Republican)

Nerdlinger · #**1672** July 14th, 2012, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen

2000 - Albert Gore (Democrat) - Albert Gore (Democrat)
2004 - John Kerry (Democrat) - George Bush (Republican)

So why Gore in 2000 but then Bush in 2004?

And also, how come you don't like my lists?!

Van555 · #**1673** July 14th, 2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

So why Gore in 2000 but then Bush in 2004?

And also, how come you don't like my lists?!

He believes that republicans are blue dammit!

Nerdlinger · #**1674** July 14th, 2012, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Van555

He believes that republicans are blue dammit!

But his lists are uncolored....

Van555 · #**1675** July 14th, 2012, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

But his lists are uncolored....

he was so outraged that he removed all the colors out of spite!

Turquoise Blue · #**1676** July 14th, 2012, 12:23 PM

Just updating my tally. Voting party number of times coming soon.

1789: George Washington (Won) P/E Ind.
1792: Didn't vote P/George Washington (Won) E Independent
1796: Didn't vote P/Thomas Jefferson (Lost) E Dem-Rep
1800: Didn't vote P/Thomas Jefferson (Lost) E Dem-Rep
1804: Thomas Jefferson (Won) Dem-Rep
1808: Charles C. Pinckney (Won) Federalist
1812: Rufus King (Lost) Federalist
1816: James Monroe (Lost) Dem-Rep
1820: DeWitt Clinton (Won) Independent/Federalist
1824: John Q. Adams (Won) Dem-Rep
1828: John Q. Adams (Won) Nat'l Republican
1832: Henry Clay (Won) Nat'l Republican
1836: William Henry Harrison (Lost) Whig
1840: James G. Birney (Won) Liberty/William Henry Harrison (Lost) Whig
1844: James G. Birney (Lost) Liberty/Henry Clay (Won) Whig
1848: Gerrit Smith (Won) Nat'l Liberty
1852: Winfield Scott (Won) Whig
1856: James Buchanan (Lost) Democratic
1860: Stephen A. Douglas (Lost) Democratic
1864: George B. McClellan (Lost) Democratic
1868: Ulysses S. Grant (Won) Republican
1872: Horace Greeley (Lost) Democratic/Lib. Republican
1876: Samuel J. Tilden (Lost) Democratic
1880: James A. Garfield (Won) Republican
1884: James G. Blaine (Lost) Republican
1888: Alson Streeter (Won) Union Labor
1892: James B. Weaver (Won) Populist
1896: William Jennings Bryan (TBD) Democratic
1900: Eugene V. Debs (Won) Socialist
1904: Eugene V. Debs (Lost) Socialist
1908: Didn't vote
1912: Didn't vote
1916: Arthur E. Reimer (Lost) Soc. Lab.
1920: Eugene V. Debs (Won) Socialist
1924: Robert M. La Follette Sr. (Won) Progressive
1928: William Z. Foster (Lost) Communist
1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Won) Democratic
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Won) Democratic
1940: Wendell Willkie (Lost) Republican
1944: Thomas Dewey (Lost) Republican
1948: Harry S. Truman (Won) Democratic
1952: Adlai Stevenson (Lost) Democratic
1956: Adlai Stevenson (Lost) Democratic
1960: Rutherford Decker (Lost) Prohibition/Richard Nixon (Lost) Republican
1964: Lyndon B. Johnson (Won) Democratic
1968: Hubert Humphrey (Won) Democratic
1972: Linda Jenness (Lost) Soc. Workers
1976: Margaret Wright (Lost) People's
1980: John Bayard Anderson (Lost) Independent
1984: Walter Mondale (Won) Democratic
1988: Ron Paul (Lost) Libertarian/George H. W. Bush (Lost) Republican
1992: William J. Clinton (Won) Democratic
1996: William J. Clinton (Won) Democratic
2000: Al Gore (Won) Democratic
2004: David Cobb (Lost) Green
2008: Barack Obama (TBD) Democratic

Turquoise Blue · #**1677** July 14th, 2012, 01:12 PM

OK. Counting my votes now. The italicized ones are ones that I regret later on. One proud record is that I have never voted Greenback.

Democratic: 18 1856-1864, 1872-1876, 1896, 1932-1936, 1948-1956, 1964-1968, 1984, 1992-2000, 2008
Republican: 5 1868, 1880-1884, 1940-1944
Democratic-Republican: 5 1796-1804, 1816, 1824
Whig: 4 1836-1844, 1852
Liberty: 3 1840, 1844, 1848
Independent: 3 1789-1792, 1980
Socialist: 3 1900, 1904, 1920
Federalist: 2 1808, 1820
National Republican: 2 1828-1832
Socialist Labor: 1 1916
Socialist Workers: 1 1972
Progressive: 1 1924
Libertarian: 1 1988
People's: 1 1976
Union Labor: 1 1888
Green: 1 2004
Populist: 1 1892

Glen · #**1678** July 14th, 2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

So why Gore in 2000 but then Bush in 2004?

Because IRL I was somewhat ambivalent between the two at the time, and in retrospect I think Gore would be forced to take most of the steps Bush did that were effective against Al Queda (military action against Al Queda & Taliban in Afghanistan, improved integration of intelligence and law-enforcement assets, etc.), but not most of the mis-steps of his administration (Iraq War (or at least the poor planning for the post-invasion period), questionable interrogation techniques and such).

However, in 2004 I found all the alternatives to George Bush unpalatable. I do not like John Kerry as a politician one bit. I think Bush did a better job by his second term also, and I think the economic meltdown was by that point going to happen anyway and I don't think changing presidents was going to help that.

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And also, how come you don't like my lists?!

It hurts my eyes, too bright. I find this one a lot simpler to read and follow, at least for my own reference. Sorry! There is nothing wrong with your list overall, but I don't find it easy to read and use like this one.