Retrospective US Presidential Election: 1888

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Isn't the voter turnout quite a bit higher now than it was in the early elections?

Not really. It's gone up and down.

[Dean501]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

Not really. It's gone up and down.

Yeah it stayed in the 170's through the 1960's and 70's and is now down to the 140's.

[Nerdlinger]

Hey, for those of you who were dead set on electing Linda Jenness in 1972, take some solace in having Alson Jenness Streeter elected in 1888.

[d32123]

Are they related?

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by d32123

Are they related?

Not as far as I know.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

Not as far as I know.

That's some pretty weak solace...

[Justin Green]

Streeter gets a solid win. I bet Butler signed whatever act or amendment that gave women the vote.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Justin Green

Streeter gets a solid win. I bet Butler signed whatever act or amendment that gave women the vote.

Beyond Wyoming, you mean?

[Justin Green]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Beyond Wyoming, you mean?

Exactly

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Justin Green

Exactly

Or maybe the various states never took the right to vote away from women in the first place?
http://dpsinfo.com/women/history/timeline.html

[Justin Green]

1878

Woman suffrage amendment first introduced in US Congress.

1882

The House and Senate appoint committees on woman suffrage, both report favorably.

1884

The US House of Representatives debates woman suffrage.

1886

Suffrage amendment reaches the US Senate floor, it is defeated two to one

So I think considering the success of the Greenbacks and the strength of the Prohibition canidates, it's not inconceivable that Butler was the the President national womens suffrage was passed under.

[metastasis_d]

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Originally Posted by Justin Green

So I think considering the success of the Greenbacks and the strength of the Prohibition canidates, it's not inconceivable that Butler was the the President national womens suffrage was passed under.

Could be.

[Justin Green]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

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Could be.

Not to discount your idea. I imagine the pod behind John Jay's vice presidency could be a few years before 1788.

[Nerdlinger]

This will be the first time in the pre-1900 series that a Democrat actually fared better than the other major party of OTL.

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

This will be the first time in the pre-1900 series that a Democrat actually fared better than the other major party of OTL.

Yeah. I maintain that is because of Cleveland, and in 1896, Bryan will either win under that party, or have that party help him win under another.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Yeah. I maintain that is because of Cleveland, and in 1896, Bryan will either win under that party, or have that party help him win under another.

Well, Cleveland didn't provide much opposition in 1884 here, and only did marginally better than the Republicans in 1888 because Harrison sucks and most of the progressive vote went to Streeter instead. The Democrats' relative success this election has more to do with a crappy Republican opponent. Bryan's nomination by the Dems in OTL 1896 was a rejection of the Bourbon Democrats as typified by Cleveland. If anything, it's the success of the Populists here that will give Bryan a boost over the pro-big business McKinley, not the success of the similarly pro-big business Cleveland.