Crusader Kings II - Paradox Entertainement (02/12)

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

Is anyone else having an issue with Assassination Plots?

After I got the 1.06 patch the events for them no longer generate for options under intrigue. :/

I've been noticing this as well.

[wilcoxchar]

Go to the character you want to assassinate. Above the diplomacy button is a plot button and you can set the assassination plot from there.

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by wilcoxchar

Go to the character you want to assassinate. Above the diplomacy button is a plot button and you can set the assassination plot from there.

Doesnt work. instead, once you hit 100% plot power, your spymaster will offer you oppertunities to kill the target every once in a while.

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

Doesnt work. instead, once you hit 100% plot power, your spymaster will offer you oppertunities to kill the target every once in a while.

It took a while for me to figure that out.

However, it only triggers such chances when one member of the plot is actually present in the same county as the target. Also messed up my usual strategy with assassinations since typically, in order to increase relations, I get as many people onboard as possible. Now it only takes a month for one to spill the beans.

So smaller is better now, recruiting a number of powerful folk, and then a single courtier from within the target's province.

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

It took a while for me to figure that out.

However, it only triggers such chances when one member of the plot is actually present in the same county as the target. Also messed up my usual strategy with assassinations since typically, in order to increase relations, I get as many people onboard as possible. Now it only takes a month for one to spill the beans.

So smaller is better now, recruiting a number of powerful folk, and then a single courtier from within the target's province.

Dont forget to place your spymaster in the province the guy is in (if he is leading an army, the province where his army is counts as that, otherwise its his capitol). My spymaster tried to kill a target with explosive manouer... didnt go so well...

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

Dont forget to place your spymaster in the province the guy is in (if he is leading an army, the province where his army is counts as that, otherwise its his capitol). My spymaster tried to kill a target with explosive manouer... didnt go so well...

Your own Spymaster can help with the plot? I thought it was exclusively those who were directly involved that could effect it?

I assume it would be the "Building Spy Networks" maneuver?

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

Your own Spymaster can help with the plot? I thought it was exclusively those who were directly involved that could effect it?

I assume it would be the "Building Spy Networks" maneuver?

Yes, but you need to place him at the province the target is at, so either capital or if he is leading an army, at the army's location.

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

Yes, but you need to place him at the province the target is at, so either capital or if he is leading an army, at the army's location.

No, I got that.

Really no point trying to go after an army though, given that it is going to keep moving and your is stuck there in one county for 3 months. Better to simply wait for the war to die down and have assigned him to the county.

[Kome]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

Your own Spymaster can help with the plot? I thought it was exclusively those who were directly involved that could effect it?

Mfw i plotted to kill my spymaster (without knowing they were my spymaster) and received a resignation the next day.

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Kome

[FONT=Verdana]Mfw i plotted to kill my spymaster (without knowing they were my spymaster) and received a resignation the next day.

Well of course! What would you do if you received an order to prepare your own demise?

Anyway, had to quit my first two games. :/

First game started as Leon, was doing relatively well having killed off my brothers and united the Kingdom, but then the 1.06 patch came out.

Second game I sought and succeeded in doing the same thing generally, but I only had one heir this time around, who was prone to dying of stress on a bi-monthly basis (Kept him alive only because the game would end otherwise). Unfortunately, when the time came for him to ascend the throne, I found that somehow he had entered a Matrinal Marriage, and his sons were French nobles.

Suffice to say I did not feel that game merited continuing, combined with the three rebelling duchies.

[Ariosto]

Just to gather opinion...........is it worth it as a Western nation to have Jerusalem? It just seems a magnet for Islamic attacks and I am constantly having to ship my military to the other side of the map (I'm England).

[Kome]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

Just to gather opinion...........is it worth it as a Western nation to have Jerusalem? It just seems a magnet for Islamic attacks and I am constantly having to ship my military to the other side of the map (I'm England).

What i would do is create the Kingdom of Jerusalem title, and give it to a brother or son to rule.

There is a nice feel to having the KoJ painted your color though.

Alternatively pawn off the entire Kingdom to a Holy Order for piety. Hilarity ensures.

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Kome

What i would do is create the Kingdom of Jerusalem title, and give it to a brother or son to rule.

There is a nice feel to having the KoJ painted your color though.

Alternatively pawn off the entire Kingdom to a Holy Order for piety. Hilarity ensures.

I have one brother, and I have thought about giving it to him; thing is the Kingdom would not be able to stand on its own still, and that would involve also taking with it lands in France.

As for a Holy Order, in what way is it hilarious? Just curious, because of right now that seems the better, if not more clear cut, option.

[Yonatan]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

I have one brother, and I have thought about giving it to him; thing is the Kingdom would not be able to stand on its own still, and that would involve also taking with it lands in France.

As for a Holy Order, in what way is it hilarious? Just curious, because of right now that seems the better, if not more clear cut, option.

You dont need to give him lands in france (unless he has lands in france already, in which case you should take it from him somehow, or give it to some other dynasty member). as for giving it to a holy order, well, they are still a holy order, so they can raise their "mercernary" unit when they have a war, but over time they will raise their own levy's as well.

Reminds me of that one game where a french king turned heretic, the Pope declared a crusade, and the Templars won it... all of France under the Templars is one of the funnier things I have seen in this game

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

You dont need to give him lands in france (unless he has lands in france already, in which case you should take it from him somehow, or give it to some other dynasty member). as for giving it to a holy order, well, they are still a holy order, so they can raise their "mercernary" unit when they have a war, but over time they will raise their own levy's as well.

He was already landed when I started the game, and has managed to expand his holdings somewhat. Don't want to piss him off though either given the delicate political situation at this time; definately could win a Civil War, but I would prefer to avoid having one altogether when I may need to deploy the lot of them to the Mideast.

As for the Holy Order, I may indeed simply grant the entire land to them; it is becoming something of a chore with little benefit to maintain.

[Kome]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

as for giving it to a holy order, well, they are still a holy order, so they can raise their "mercernary" unit when they have a war, but over time they will raise their own levy's as well.

Reminds me of funny scenarios involving the Prince of Galilee attacking the Knights Hospitaller. Evidently the Grandmaster of the Knights ether lacks the piety to summon the 7000 extra soldiers of the order, or more likely the Order refuses to fight against other Christians in defense of their fiefs. Despite the two supposedly being one and the same.

[Ariosto]

Out of curiosity, do you know when the Holy Orders come about, or how their triggered? Have had the Holy Land for about twenty years, its 1112, and I haven't seen any pop up. Last game I was in they popped up around 1104 or so.

[Kome]

Originally Posted by Ariosto

He was already landed when I started the game, and has managed to expand his holdings somewhat. Don't want to piss him off though either given the delicate political situation at this time; definately could win a Civil War, but I would prefer to avoid having one altogether when I may need to deploy the lot of them to the Mideast.

Well surely there must be someone in your family you could give the title to. I doubt there's only the two of you in the entire dynasty.

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Kome

Well surely there must be someone in your family you could give the title to. I doubt there's only the two of you in the entire dynasty.

Problem is not just that though; a lot of those whom I had granted land are related to Counts back in the Home Country, and events have been favoring them laying claim to the fiefs. :/

[Kome]

Originally Posted by Yonatan

Doesnt work. instead, once you hit 100% plot power, your spymaster will offer you oppertunities to kill the target every once in a while.

>5000% plot power
>Three years
>Havnt received any events

PARADOX!!!!!!!!!