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[SRegan]

Originally Posted by Alex Richards

Also, Regan you've got outdated Canadian and South African colours there. I assume those are getting changed at some point.

Not really a fan of the brownish colours that seem to have been adopted - can change if people think it's a vast improvement. Was the rationale similarity with the Dutch colour?

Taken a shot at 1932 (in my usual non-specific 'base it anywhere in the year something interesting happened' style) myself, expanding on Equuleus's attempt and fixing some things like Neuschwabenland, period Persia borders, etc. Will repost the .psd shortly as in the process I made several changes for early 20th c maps (Iraq's border with Saudi Arabia changed at the time the neutral zone was abolished, Line Islands confused with Phoenix Islands and added to the Gilbert and Ellice Crown Colony too early). Interesting features - the Socialist Republic of Chile (not sure if the influence shading is justifiable - I gather many hardline communists were actually opposed), Erik the Red's Land (a short-lived Norwegian claim to a chunk of Greenland), and the Chinese Soviet Republic under Mao shortly before the Long March.

[SRegan]

Originally Posted by Iori

I was referring to Awdal which as far as I can tell fell out of Somalilands control at some point in 2010-2011.

Hmm. I took it off for 2012 as it seemed to have dropped off Wikipedia's map of the current situation. Looking at recent news, the Awdalland shadow government (run from Barrhaven, Canada) doesn't seem especially credible.

[Iori]

Originally Posted by SRegan

Hmm. I took it off for 2012 as it seemed to have dropped off Wikipedia's map of the current situation. Looking at recent news, the Awdalland shadow government (run from Barrhaven, Canada) doesn't seem especially credible.

Hm, I suppose then I'll change it for 2012 and just have it on 2011's.

Somalia certainly does give me a headache.

[SRegan]

Originally Posted by Iori

Hm, I suppose then I'll change it for 2012 and just have it on 2011's.

Somalia certainly does give me a headache.

Indeed - there's also a Dir-driven movement in Awdal that threatens to counter-secede and rejoin Somalia if Somaliland gets independence

[SRegan]

Updated the .psd for reference:

http://www.mediafire.com/?cb344ysf7jju3ny

[LSCatilina]

Originally Posted by Alex Richards

Switzerland if visible due to the extreme lengths of the autonomy). As stated for feudal systems autonomous borders are much more useful.

Depends of which era.

For independent feudal system, independent border is clearly better as it marks the...Well, independence of a demesne.
That said, for feudal demesnes integrated or with a vassal unable to have an independent policy, autonomous border is probably better (by exemple, for Brittany between XV and XVI centuries).

[Badshah]

So.... Is my patch okay?

[Alex Richards]

Originally Posted by SRegan

Not really a fan of the brownish colours that seem to have been adopted - can change if people think it's a vast improvement. Was the rationale similarity with the Dutch colour?

It was a combination of Canada-Dutch system and South Africa-Canada Territory/new Canada (as we shifted the territory to the main body and redarkened to get the territory). There were also, IIRC, issues over South African protectorates (the Bantustan period) and some other colours.

[stateless_englishman]

Originally Posted by SRegan

Not really a fan of the brownish colours that seem to have been adopted - can change if people think it's a vast improvement. Was the rationale similarity with the Dutch colour?

Taken a shot at 1932 (in my usual non-specific 'base it anywhere in the year something interesting happened' style) myself, expanding on Equuleus's attempt and fixing some things like Neuschwabenland, period Persia borders, etc. Will repost the .psd shortly as in the process I made several changes for early 20th c maps (Iraq's border with Saudi Arabia changed at the time the neutral zone was abolished, Line Islands confused with Phoenix Islands and added to the Gilbert and Ellice Crown Colony too early). Interesting features - the Socialist Republic of Chile (not sure if the influence shading is justifiable - I gather many hardline communists were actually opposed), Erik the Red's Land (a short-lived Norwegian claim to a chunk of Greenland), and the Chinese Soviet Republic under Mao shortly before the Long March.

Very nice. A couple of points:

- Prince Edward Islands (today a South African possession in the Southern Ocean/Indian Ocean) were not annexed to South Africa until 12th January 1948, so should be depicted as a possession of the UK.
- Hatay did not become independent of France until 7th September 1938, so should be depicted as part of the French mandate of Syria.
- Prince Charles, Foley and Air Force Islands weren't discovered until 21st July 1948, so there's an argument that they should be depicted as terra nullis.
- The dispute between Quebec and Newfoundland was decided (largely) in Newfoundland's favour on 11th March 1927.

[EmmettMcFly55]

Originally Posted by SRegan

Not really a fan of the brownish colours that seem to have been adopted - can change if people think it's a vast improvement. Was the rationale similarity with the Dutch colour?

Taken a shot at 1932 (in my usual non-specific 'base it anywhere in the year something interesting happened' style) myself, expanding on Equuleus's attempt and fixing some things like Neuschwabenland, period Persia borders, etc. Will repost the .psd shortly as in the process I made several changes for early 20th c maps (Iraq's border with Saudi Arabia changed at the time the neutral zone was abolished, Line Islands confused with Phoenix Islands and added to the Gilbert and Ellice Crown Colony too early). Interesting features - the Socialist Republic of Chile (not sure if the influence shading is justifiable - I gather many hardline communists were actually opposed), Erik the Red's Land (a short-lived Norwegian claim to a chunk of Greenland), and the Chinese Soviet Republic under Mao shortly before the Long March.

Considering the Wikipedia article you linked to with regards to Chile doesn't even mention the USSR, perhaps you should limit it to striping instead. That's 'non-puppet, non-dominant communist/radical country', right?

[SRegan]

Originally Posted by stateless_englishman

Very nice. A couple of points:

- Prince Edward Islands (today a South African possession in the Southern Ocean/Indian Ocean) were not annexed to South Africa until 12th January 1948, so should be depicted as a possession of the UK.
- Hatay did not become independent of France until 7th September 1938, so should be depicted as part of the French mandate of Syria.
- Prince Charles, Foley and Air Force Islands weren't discovered until 21st July 1948, so there's an argument that they should be depicted as terra nullis.
- The dispute between Quebec and Newfoundland was decided (largely) in Newfoundland's favour on 11th March 1927.

Thanks - will re-upload the .psd shortly. I'll try zipping it as I gather Mediafire lets you swap files with the same link as long as it's not what they consider an image file (.psd is, stupidly).

Changed Prince Edward Island, fixed Hatay; only Prince Charles actually has land pixels, so switched those to terra nullius (I already have some northern islands with terra nullius on the 1900 and 1910 maps, so possibly they should be marked as such later too - will need to research).

The Quebec/Newfoundland thing was discussed some time ago on this thread - the dispute settled on 1927 was between Newfoundland and Canada; the 'definition of coast' vs 'height of land' issue (prior to this I show Labrador as just having 1px control of the coastline and a claim on Canada). Quebec continued (and continues to this day, though I think we can safely remove the claim once they're part of the same country) to assert the further northern boundary (see Line B).

Originally Posted by EmmettMcFly55

Considering the Wikipedia article you linked to with regards to Chile doesn't even mention the USSR, perhaps you should limit it to striping instead. That's 'non-puppet, non-dominant communist/radical country', right?

In the colour scheme I'm working with that would signify dual control where actual regional control was unknown, or else partial influence Interior shading can imply puppet or influence shading; here ideological influence is a given, but you're correct that there doesn't appear to be overt political influence. Possibly I could try stripy interior shading, but it's still probably a bit tenuous. Thought the shading had value as an early socialist revolution, but someone more knowledgeable will probably tell me there were numerous earlier socialist republics that similarly wouldn't warrant red shading.

Update:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zwl7ivi58ikwivz

[Starseed]

What's the UN color? I'm doing a TL where I need it - most of Iberia is retaken, it's a joint UN/EU project. I need the UN color, but I cannto find where it's mentioned.

[stateless_englishman]

Originally Posted by SRegan

Thanks - will re-upload the .psd shortly. I'll try zipping it as I gather Mediafire lets you swap files with the same link as long as it's not what they consider an image file (.psd is, stupidly).

Changed Prince Edward Island, fixed Hatay; only Prince Charles actually has land pixels, so switched those to terra nullius (I already have some northern islands with terra nullius on the 1900 and 1910 maps, so possibly they should be marked as such later too - will need to research).

One more thing; what is now the British Indian Ocean Territory was not formed until 8th July 1965. The Chagos Archipelago was previously part of the Maldives. Between 8th July 1965 and 29th July 1976 the islands of Aldabra, Farquhar and Desroches were part of the British Indian Ocean Territory before being returned to the Seychelles.

Can probably help with terra nullis, though the further one goes back, the dodgier the strengths of claims etc. get.

[stateless_englishman]

Originally Posted by Starseed

What's the UN color? I'm doing a TL where I need it - most of Iberia is retaken, it's a joint UN/EU project. I need the UN color, but I cannto find where it's mentioned.

I think it should be (72, 145, 206) [RGB], which is the colour on the UN flag, but that may have been changed at some point, given there are a number of similar blues.

[SRegan]

Originally Posted by stateless_englishman

One more thing; what is now the British Indian Ocean Territory was not formed until 8th July 1965. The Chagos Archipelago was previously part of the Maldives. Between 8th July 1965 and 29th July 1976 the islands of Aldabra, Farquhar and Desroches were part of the British Indian Ocean Territory before being returned to the Seychelles.

Can probably help with terra nullis, though the further one goes back, the dodgier the strengths of claims etc. get.

Source on Maldives? Just looking it up and it seems to have been split from Mauritius - the territory was claimed by France first then taken over by Britain in 1814.

[stateless_englishman]

Originally Posted by SRegan

Source on Maldives? Just looking it up and it seems to have been split from Mauritius - the territory was claimed by France first then taken over by Britain in 1814.

Sorry, type-fart. Mauritius, not Maldives.

[SRegan]

Originally Posted by stateless_englishman

Sorry, type-fart. Mauritius, not Maldives.

Updated. Also it appears that before 1903 the Seychelles were administered from Mauritius and should not have a dividing line.

Same link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zwl7ivi58ikwivz

1965 with what I believe to be the correct grouping for the British Indian Ocean territory immediately after formation:

[stateless_englishman]

Originally Posted by SRegan

1965 with what I believe to be the correct grouping for the British Indian Ocean territory immediately after formation

Ifni was still part of Spain until 4th January 1969.

[Dangimill]

I have updated the 1600 map with Ottoman gains in Ethiopia, internal subdivisions of China and a more accurate depiction of the situation in Southeast Asia. If an expert on Indonesian history could correct my representation of the Sultanate of Johor (specifically territory on Sumatra it may or may not have), please do.

Furthermore, I noticed that Aceh was a fairly important regional power historically and for purposes of territorial identification may need a color. Is there one I should use for a secondary Indonesian state when the the Malay color is already in use?

The map:

[Alex Richards]

Originally Posted by SRegan

In the colour scheme I'm working with that would signify dual control where actual regional control was unknown, or else partial influence Interior shading can imply puppet or influence shading; here ideological influence is a given, but you're correct that there doesn't appear to be overt political influence. Possibly I could try stripy interior shading, but it's still probably a bit tenuous. Thought the shading had value as an early socialist revolution, but someone more knowledgeable will probably tell me there were numerous earlier socialist republics that similarly wouldn't warrant red shading.

Update:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zwl7ivi58ikwivz

Probably best to remove it. For something so short lived it doesn't seem worth the confusion. The republic was basically dead about a week after being declared, and I'd say communist control was very nominal outside Santiago by the look of things in any case.