A Red Dawn: American Revolution and Rebirth

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

Originally Posted by GiantMonkeyMan

It only seems like propaganda from our perspective because we live in a capitalist society and get influenced by and accustomed to capitalist themes in media. Adorno calls it a "culture industry" that perpetuates the same cycles of production in the sole aim of making profit while Althusser would call it an "ideological state apparatus" that is controlling our lives by forcing us to live by the standards presented and alienating anyone who deviates.

Just think about the OTL Green Lantern series for a moment. A self-appointed police force that gains their legitimacy through individual willpower and advanced technology and deigns to give themselves jurisdiction throughout the galaxy regardless of the locals' opinions. Couldn't that from one perspective be seen as clear cut neoimperialism? Yet we don't think of it that way because it's only a small portion of a far larger and more encompassing corpus of media that is accepting of projections of power and authority into other spheres.

Agreed we only call it propaghanda when it undermines our own ideology. If it supports it is no longer propaghanda but merely the system. Is that basically what you are stating.

[eliphas8]

Originally Posted by ANARCHY_4_ALL

Agreed we only call it propaghanda when it undermines our own ideology. If it supports it is no longer propaghanda but merely the system. Is that basically what you are stating.

I guess, its just a weird thing to realize.

[person]

True, though I might make it a little less blatant, and a little greyer.

[Killer300]

The main point I want to make with the stuff I'm adding right now is this.

Those writing fiction in the USAR have virtually NONE of the censorship restrictions that we have. In this universe, SAW would probably be considered tame and mindless. Additionally, any boundaries there are I expect to be pushed. Constantly.

So basically guys, when making versions of Batman, imagine if Batman was not only more violent, but was also allowed to explore themes it wasn't in OTL. Religion, classicism, racism, or pretty much any other topic under the sun is available.
Keep in mind, this doesn't mean things devolving into exploitation, because you can't shock an audience in this universe with just pure gore or sex. Rather, it would be using those things to tell a much more interesting story. This should have... interesting long term consequences, to say the least.

[person]

Is the Little Red Song Book now published by the state

[wolf_brother]

Everytime someone bumps this thread without an actual update from Jello, a little bit of me dies on the inside.

[person]

Originally Posted by wolf_brother

Everytime someone bumps this thread without an actual update from Jello, a little bit of me dies on the inside.

I'm going to murder you by parts

[eliphas8]

Originally Posted by wolf_brother

Everytime someone bumps this thread without an actual update from Jello, a little bit of me dies on the inside.

So my plan is working then right?

[wolf_brother]

Or you could not be thread necromongers and force moderator intervention.

That would be awfully nice of you.

[Russian Sailor]

Originally Posted by wolf_brother

Everytime someone bumps this thread without an actual update from Jello, a little bit of me dies on the inside.

I agree

[eliphas8]

Originally Posted by wolf_brother

Or you could not be thread necromongers and force moderator intervention.

That would be awfully nice of you.

Well its not dead, Jello is just taking awhile (atleast thats what I tell myself to keep the hope alive).

[wolf_brother]

Originally Posted by eliphas8

Well its not dead, Jello is just taking awhile (atleast thats what I tell myself to keep the hope alive).

STOP POSTING.

It's not dead, but its quite rude to continually bump a thread.

[Jello_Biafra]

Next revision is posted

Since people are peeved about bumps getting their hopes up, I'll be periodically bumping this after replies to ensure that it isn't overlooked due to the cry wolf effect.

[AYoungContrarian]

Originally Posted by Jello_Biafra

Next revision is posted

Since people are peeved about bumps getting their hopes up, I'll be periodically bumping this after replies to ensure that it isn't overlooked due to the cry wolf effect.

Can't imagine how tedious this must be for you. Judging by your responses to our questions here, you seem eager to continue with the rest of the TL.

-AYC

[Jello_Biafra]

Originally Posted by AYoungContrarian

Can't imagine how tedious this must be for you. Judging by your responses to our questions here, you seem eager to continue with the rest of the TL.

-AYC

Yeah, it can be rough. I mean, it's a good exercise all in all, it's gotten the earlier stuff up to the same quality level as later updates, but it is quite tedious. Still, it's given me the chance to do some interesting things with the Russian Revolution.

Next planned update is still 1938, which will be followed by some short story fluff + the basic roadmap of World War 2.

[person]

Whats Bueno Russo, I can't understand that, I think its the fighting in NYC, am I correct

[Jello_Biafra]

Originally Posted by person

Whats Bueno Russo, I can't understand that, I think its the fighting in NYC, am I correct

Biennio Rosso. It's Italian for "Two Red Years". It was a term that Italian immigrants applied to the massive uprisings during the last year of the war and the time immediately following, and during the twenties the name kind of stuck.

[person]

OK, that was a good update.

What happens to Makhno, please tell me he doesn't die

[Jello_Biafra]

Originally Posted by person

OK, that was a good update.

What happens to Makhno, please tell me he doesn't die

Depends on how long he tries to stick around in the Soviet Union. Exile if he leaves quickly after his forces are subsumed by the Bolshevik state. His chance of survival decreases the longer he tries to stick around.

[Plumber]

So America has Memel and Shandong...