Which Presidential Death POD is Most Important?

[Plumber]

McKinley perhaps, though there are indications he wanted Bob La Follette to succeed him.

JFK living fucks up civil rights a lot, so I put that. He was trying to bring LBJ down with the Bobby Baker scandal, even though JFK himself slept with the East German agent in the scandal. I don't see how that doesn't blowback to a victory insufficient to get civil rights in his second term.

[Stolengood]

Hmmmm... considering people are leaning towards a number of "candidates", perhaps I should've given voters a shot at multiple options -- i.e., being allowed to vote for more than one.

Of course, I'd disallow you from voting for all of them...

Originally Posted by Plumber

there are indications he wanted Bob La Follette to succeed him.

La Follette was even more radical than Roosevelt; would Mark Hanna really have wanted a "damn Wisconsinite" in the White House, any more than he wanted "that damned cowboy" upon McKinley's death?

[CT23]

Would FDR surviving have changed things all that much?

It seems people don't think so.

[Grimbald]

He might have handled the run up to the ACW better and either butterflied it or made it shorter/less destructive.

We will never know for sure, although someone will eventually write about their view of the possibility.

[Stolengood]

Originally Posted by CT23

Would FDR surviving have changed things all that much?

It seems people don't think so.

If anything, it's Harding people think wouldn't have changed anything; nobody's voted for him, yet!

[mjustinian]

The death of JFK unleashed the Viet-Nam war and the military-industrial machine that exists today in the USA. In addition, the consumer culture and US consumer imperialism kicked into full swing after his death. Those two factors weigh far greater that any other US presidential assassination. It also broke the power of the Kennedy family.

[Plumber]

Originally Posted by Stolengood

La Follette was even more radical than Roosevelt; would Mark Hanna really have wanted a "damn Wisconsinite" in the White House, any more than he wanted "that damned cowboy" upon McKinley's death?

No, but if Hanna dies at the same time as OTL, then it's more likely to happen.

[Stolengood]

Originally Posted by Plumber

No, but if Hanna dies at the same time as OTL, then it's more likely to happen.

Hmmmm... wonder what would happen to TR, in that event, then?

[Paul V McNutt]

1 Lincoln Reconstruction goes slot smoother if he were there.
2 With Harrison the weak presidency dies.Tyler establishes accidental presidents as real presidents.
3 Kennedy Might not be an escalation of the Vietnam war.
4 McKinley TR becomes president.
5 Taylor Compromise of1850 signed.
6 Garfield Civil Service reform made easier
7 Harding the scandals embarass a sitting president.
8 Roosevelt Nothing much changes. He would have done what Truman did.

[Stolengood]

Originally Posted by Paul V McNutt

2 Harrison weak presidency Congo uses. Tyler establishes accidental presidents as real presidents.

What do you mean? What does the Congo have to do with William Henry Harrison?

[Van555]

Originally Posted by Stolengood

What do you mean? What does the Congo have to do with William Henry Harrison?

Everything man connect the dots!

But seriously I'm curious as well.

[Trotsky]

Originally Posted by CT23

Would FDR surviving have changed things all that much?

It seems people don't think so.

He probably would've resigned had he lived to see the end of the War.

[Paul V McNutt]

Originally Posted by Stolengood

What do you mean? What does the Congo have to do with William Henry Harrison?

Sorry typo, I fixed it.

[Paul V McNutt]

Originally Posted by Trotsky

He probably would've resigned had he lived to see the end of the War.

I doubt he would have resigned, unless he had to for health reasons.

[Stolengood]

I'm going to go out on a limb, here, and stick up for poor Warren G. Harding; apparently, he was making some changes in his life and politics right before he died:

Breaking away from Republican isolationism, Harding advocated more spending on national defense in case of another war. Harding also made a speech fully endorsing labor's right to organize and even spoke against those who sought to destroy labor movements around the country. In Tacoma, Washington, the President read a letter that promoted his efforts in fighting for a 12-hour work day. Sensing his own conversion, Harding even told his friends that he felt a spiritual change was influencing his stance on issues.

Come on, vote for him!

[Stolengood]

Bringing this up because, again, polling closes on July 11th! Get in as soon as you can and explain your pick!

[HeavyWeaponsGuy]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

William Henry Harrison. Why? First, its the earliest PoD. Secondly, his death led to a Democrat President in 1841, John Tyler. This led to the downfall of the Whig Party.

The downfall of the Whig Party was the slavery issue.

The party's advantage was its broad-ticket appeal to all US regions.

It did this by never taking a stance on the slavery issue.

The more polarized and contentious the issue became, the more apparent it became that the Whigs did not (because they couldn't) take a position on it, the more people left them.

Individual presidents are largely irrelevant to that particular failing, save, of course, Zachary Taylor, if he had not died, his particularly fiery rhetoric against secession, and his willingness to back up that stance with military force, may have ignited an early civil war.

[Stolengood]

Originally Posted by HeavyWeaponsGuy

Individual presidents are largely irrelevant to that particular failing, save, of course, Zachary Taylor, if he had not died, his particularly fiery rhetoric against secession, and his willingness to back up that stance with military force, may have ignited an early civil war.

Considering such, would you favor Taylor as a second choice decision for you in the poll?

[HeavyWeaponsGuy]

Originally Posted by Stolengood

Considering such, would you favor Taylor as a second choice decision for you in the poll?

Yes I would.

[Paul V McNutt]

Originally Posted by Stolengood

I'm going to go out on a limb, here, and stick up for poor Warren G. Harding; apparently, he was making some changes in his life and politics right before he died:

Come on, vote for him!

Interesting but I don't see the Republican controlled Congress passing a Wagner Act or spending that much more on defense. These new positions and the scandals could alienate much of the Republican Party. Would he get a challenger for the 1924 nomination?