American King: Take Two

[Michael.D.Luffy]

Oh I got something he runs away if the revolt fails and comes to america to try his hand in the states.

[Rooster Cogburn]

If we're too the point where we're creating the royal trees of North America, I would just like to offer up my (all Catholic) daughters for the honor of marrying into royalty in the future

• Margaret DeRensis (1854)
• Rebecca DeRensis (1859)
• Penelope DeRensis (1871)

[marcus_aurelius]

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

If we're too the point where we're creating the royal trees of North America, I would just like to offer up my (all Catholic) daughters for the honor of marrying into royalty in the future

• Margaret DeRensis (1854)
• Rebecca DeRensis (1859)
• Penelope DeRensis (1871)

While not necessarily Catholics (and certainly not royalty), I do believe Marcus A. Dickens, Jr., and Charles A. Dickens are hugely interested in Margaret and Rebecca...

Marc A

P.S. This certainly is political marriage at its best, although Marc and Charles are quite keen on this to the point of begging...

[Napoleon53]

Originally Posted by marcus_aurelius

And an off-topic, borderline derp question: what exactly is the Lemur Insurrection or whatever it's called?

Marc A

Hahahaha, I got a laugh out of that. The Belgian Lemur Insurrection was a meme created early in this thread. "Vive l'Emur!"

Originally Posted by wiiguy

I like that update!

Though tell me, Napoleon, why so many Napoleons?

I jest, I jest. So is Anslem more along the lines of an absolutist who has the PM dancing on a string?

Danke schoen.

Be grateful I didn't create countries for the Bonaparte sisters, too.

Anselm's a constitutional monarch, and he takes the ministre's advice seriously. The only monarchs that are absolutist/lean absolutist are Joseph and Louis. Joseph is an absolute monarch simply because St. Louis is so small.

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

I did not expect that. Well done. I'm now royalty, and a future Queen. And my children are legally adopted, right? Can succeed to the throne?

Yep, they can succeed.

Originally Posted by Michael.D.Luffy

That took me hours to come up with I'm leading a slave revolt so ... Spartacus? JKS aside Rhys Gareth. I'm Welsh

Originally Posted by Michael.D.Luffy

Oh I got something he runs away if the revolt fails and comes to america to try his hand in the states.

Great! I like that name. He can fit right in to something I'm already planning. England has probably ended slavery, but I promise I'm going to use him for somethin' gol danged neat.

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

If we're too the point where we're creating the royal trees of North America, I would just like to offer up my (all Catholic) daughters for the honor of marrying into royalty in the future

• Margaret DeRensis (1854)
• Rebecca DeRensis (1859)
• Penelope DeRensis (1871)

Wow, it's a little early. They'll be royals in WWI?

[Napoleon53]

Politics During and After the Second Seven Years' War
A List

British Parliament circa 1803

United Royal American States

During the Second Seven Years' War, war may have raged, but politics continued as usual. The URAS, still an infant nation despite its vast empire, was beginning to have a wave of post-Revolution political leaders that would shape the country's destiny. Most of them belonged to one of the following parties:

• The Crown Party
• The Whig Party
• The Libertarian Party
• The Anti-Masonic Party

As well as a few crackpot parties:

• The Equality Party
• The Absolutist Party
• The Socialist Party

The Crown Party boasted it claimed 70% of the URAS population as supporters. It's ideals were complete loyalty to the king, territorial expansion and the subjugation of "less fortunate" neighboring countries, the taking of colonies, and a strong free market economy.

The Whig Party had perhaps 12% of citizens at its zenith. It's ideals were loyalty to the king as long as he didn't act above the Constitution, high tariffs, and the improvement of infrastructure, such as roads and canals. The Whigs were nicknamed "Highrollers" for their "luxurious carriages" and the tendency to be the richest of society. They were accused of wasting money improving "infrastructure," with their enemies saying they wanted to build extravagant roads "connecting backwater frontier towns." Humorously, Whig supporters named an Illinoia town along the Mississippi River "Backwater." Then, the popular put-down became the claim that the Whigs "build bridges to nowhere." Equally humorously, the Whigs built a bridge to Nowhere, Sylvania, enabling supporters to approve of the condemnations as truth.

The Libertarian Party was popular only in northern New England and North Ontario during and directly following the Second Seven Years' War. While the Libertarians claimed to be loyal to Andrew, they were for maximum freedom, almost anarchy, detested ideas of new military expansion, were mostly open deists and atheists, and hated slavery.

The Anti-Masonic Party was an offshoot of the Crown Party founded in 1815. Very few disagreements separated the two monarchist groups from being one and the same. The Anti-Masonic Party believed in loyalty to the crown, but opposed any and all members of the Masonic organization, which it claimed had secret control of numerous government officials. They were seen as extremists, but supposedly, both William Harrison and Henry Clay sympathized with them.

The Equality Party was a far-right group claiming that slavery and monarchy was prohibited by the New Testament. They had a few fairly well-known members, but most of them were hated. From 1810 to 1820, over 200 known members of the Equality Party were lynched and murdered.

The Absolutist Party was the most rabidly monarchist group in the URAS. Even Andrew publicly dismissed them as imbeciles. They claimed the king should be given supreme and absolute control over everyone and everything in the country. They criss-crossed the country, preaching the Divine Right of Kings. There was never any known violence against them, but they were considered mad, and had almost no supporters.

1) Grand Duke John had just begun his political career after his 1808 coming-of-age. At 16, he delved into military and Congressional matters like an eager beaver. In 1809, he represented the United Royal American States at the London Peace Talks. He was a smooth talker and had a winning personality, and became good friends with Louis Joseph, the 28 year-old Dauphin of France, who represented France. However, he detested Louis-Charles, the 24 year-old second son of Louis XVI.

2) Duchess Gwendolyn Sinclair was, in an era of male domination, a rare exception. As Andrew Jackson's personal friend and quite possibly the reason he sat on the throne, she was viewed by the politicians something like how the Greeks viewed the Oracle; consultation was considered one of the best things one could do. In 1803, Jones married General Morys Sinclair, who later, due to valiant service holding off Bonaparte's encroachments along the Mississippi, was given the title of Duke of Leesburg, North Carolina. However, he died of pneumonia in 1808 while on campaign against the forces of John Calhoun, during the waning months of the Second Seven Years', and Duchess Sinclair herself led the local militia forces in a daring defense of the border. She became the first American woman to be given the title Honourary General by the House of Congress. Her visit to Muskogee was instrumental in getting that country to join the URAS. She also led the American delegation at the London Peace Talks and was instrumental in procuring independence for Lower Canada. For this, she was declared the first Viscountess of the Kingdom of Canada, essentially making her King Anselm's adopted daughter.

3) Minister of the House Sir Henry Clay, thanks to the horrible death of Viceroy Henry Dearborn in 1808 during a wolf hunt-gone-wrong, was chosen to be the next viceroy. When Harrison reached his term limit as Prime Minister in 1816, it was Clay who then became Prime Minister, with Duke DeRensis as Viceroy. Clay was a magnificent speaker and known for his fiery oratory, which could go on without objection for hours. He was knighted in 1809, upon the institution of knights in the URAS.

4) The elegant Sir Marcus Augustus Dickens was a native of Boston, and was known for his cheeky sense of humor and excellent manners with the ladies, and was called "The Dandy" by friends and foes alike. He was originally a captain in the URASMC, and through heroic actions at the Battle of Trafalgar, where he ran British captain Stephen Dye through with a saber and then proceeded to keep 30 wounded sailors alive by carrying them one-by-one across rocking boarding ramps from the British ships to the American ships, was awarded two Legion of Honour medals (for heroic risk to life and limb beyond the call of duty), the Copper Eagle (for over 100 enemy kills), the Star of Franklin (for excellence of character), five Legion of Sacrifice medals (for wounds received at Trafalgar and in North Africa during the Barbary Subjugation), the Siver Star of Boston (awarded by the lord mayor of Boston in commemoration of a lifetime of service to the city), the North Africa Campaign Ribbon, Illinoia Campaign Ribbon, the Trafalgar Medallion, and was one of the founding members of the Order of the Blue Sash, an order of Bostonian Knights. He was also awarded the Iron Cross by Friedrich Wilhelm III during a diplomatic visit to Prussia.

5) Duke Hunter DeRensis was, of course, a Marine veteran of the North Africa Campaign and Barbary Subjugation. He was in one of the first batches of officers born during and after the Revolution. He was 30 in 1808, when he led one of the American armies against Wellington in the final battles for Quebec and was there when Wellington turned his sword over to Duke Anthony Wayne. He was declared Duke of Winterfell, Pennsylvania, in 1805, just before he met both President Bonaparte of Louisiana and King David of Kaintuck at the Treaty of Tylzasippi. Duke DeRensis became Viceroy of the URAS in 1816 at age 38, with Sir Henry Clay as Prime Minister. In 1824, DeRensis became Prime Minister himself at age 46. DeRensis was awarded the North Africa Campaign Ribon, the Lower Canada Campaign Ribbon, the Illinoia Campaign Ribbon, North Carolina Campaign Ribbon, the Gold Cord (Commandant of the URASMC), the Legion of Honour (for heroic risk of life and limb beyond the call of duty), the Star of Franklin (for excellence of character), the Gold Eagle of Victory (being one of the commanding officers present at the surrender of the final hostiles in North America during the Second Seven Years'), and the Siege of Constantinople Dagger (presented by the Holy Roman government for his aid in taking the Ottoman capital; it was mainly a ceremonial award, as DeRensis had only been a 12 year-old drummer at the time).

6) Sir Eberhard Rueck was an East Prussia-born 25-year-old immigrant to America in 1796, and had arrived just in time to ride on Andrew I's coattails. As a sergeant in the regiments who participated in the 4th of November Coup, when Andrew overthrew the Republican government with the blessing of the dying Thomas Paine, Rueck witnessed firsthand Jackson's mesmerizing cult personality, and later was a member of the elite Royal Legion's cavalry. He was a 35 year-old captain who moved the crowd aside at the coronation in the freezing cold. Despite this, he declared it the proudest day of his life. When a wound at the Battle of Mcglohon's Swamp (1807) made his left leg paralyzed, he was honorably discharged from the Legion and took up politics, was knighted in 1810, and became Governor of Pennsylvania in 1816.

7) Andrew Franklin Adams, born John Quincy Adams, was the son of Sons of Liberty member John Adams. Born in 1767, he got to be a firsthand witness of much of the Great Revolution, and later said he was disgusted with his father and the Sons in general. He joined the Fraternity of Freedom, and was a Republican Guard during the 4th of November Coup. However, he was one of only two guards to surrender, the other being William Orne, who was later executed. John Quincy then read what Andrew had to say and changed his republicanism to monarchism, even going so far as to change his name to Andrew Franklin Adams to disassociate himself from his father and his old military record. Adams then entered politics and was the Governor of Massachusetts Bay for the entire duration of the Second Seven Years' War.

South Carolina

In South Carolina, there were no parties. There was only Calvinist zealots preaching hellfire and brimstone. The increasingly radical dictatorship made even Georgia back off slightly after the Second Seven Years' ended. Some European countries, especially the Catholic ones, refused to recognize the South Carolinian government as legitimate after President-for-life "Jackboot" Johnny Calhoun ordered the massacres of over 1000 Catholics in the southern regions and demanded citizens report any "suspicious Papist activity" that their neighbors might be involved in. Calhoun went on to say that the Catholics were in a plot to kill him. The No Popery Massacres of 1812, as they came to be called, made the "enlightened" URAS furious, and Louisiana threatened to sail over and "put out Carolinian Calvinists' lights." The War of 1812 was narrowly avoided when Calhoun died of a heart attack at age 30 the same year.

1) John Caldwell Calhoun was the young third dictator of South Carolina, succeeding Francis Marion II, the "Second Swamp Fox," in 1806. He was personally selected by Marion II, who died of throat cancer. Calhoun was a brutal tyrant who "had a library consisting of Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, Genghis Khan, Julius Caesar, and only select parts of the first half of the Bible." Under "Jackboot Johnny Scaldwell," South Carolina's printing presses became government issued, and those who did not have a license who used printing presses were hanged. Those who publicly suggested South Carolina's government might be too brutal were shot. Those who were accused of monarchism were thrown in jail. In Franklinburg, a massive prison was created solely to house debtors. Those who did not hang the Stripes-and-Serpent banner in front of their house on national holidays were fined $50. Those who did not have a flag were ordered to report to the nearest law enforcement building to get one free. Even when South Carolina lost the Second Seven Years', he remained in power, and his diplomats at the Peace of London were the most mulishly stubborn about concessions, even going so far as demanding Andrew hand over North Carolina. Gwendolyn Sinclair then put the South Carolinians in their places in an explosive argument. Calhoun died of cardiac arrest in 1812 during an angry tirade at his general staff. He was dead before he hit the floor at the age of only 30. He was especially known for premature aging, with acquaintances claiming he looked 50 when he was 28.

2) Francis Marion III was the successor of Calhoun and the son of Francis Marion II, but he was far more like Calhoun. It was said that Calhoun was like the older brother he never had, and after Calhoun died, he married his widow, Alice Bogart, and treated Calhoun's children, Jacob Machiavelli, Charles Luther, Boudicca Carolina, William Wallace, and John Calvin, all as his own, and began training John Calvin Calhoun to take over upon his death. The brutal policies continued, but switched from a focus on Catholics to witches and warlocks. "Evidently," snarked Andrew sarcastically, "South Carolina is just stuffed to the rafters with witches and Satanists." The medieval purges continued, and preacher-soldiers marched around the "Democracy" seeking out witches. Over 500 people were condemned to death by hanging in the first year of President Marion III's administration.

Kingdom of Canada

1) King Anselm I was a general in the Quebecois Rebellion and was present when Wellington handed over his sword to Wayne. When the Peace of London gave Quebec and Lower Canada independence as the Kingdom of Canada, and set up an election to choose a monarch, Anselm Daudet was a shoe-in. He won with a massive 91% of the 1810 vote, his only competition being his old comrade Noel Esnault, who became Ministre in the new kingdom. In appreciation of her efforts to give his country independence at the Peace of London, Anselm declared Duchess Sinclair Viscountess of Canada, essentially making her his daughter-he-never-had. Eventually, Sinclair, whose husband had died during the war, married Anselm's only son, Sylvestre. This put her two heartbeats away from the Canadian Throne. Anselm was an old-school Frenchman. He immediately started work on a palace in Quebec, along with a Parliament Building. Then, he reformed the army and procured uniforms from the Holy Roman Empire. The uniforms were dyed a light blue, but his own uniform and those of his generals were akin to the color and design of the URASMC, which in turn copied the style of Russia.

2) Grand Duke Sylvestre I was the only child of Anselm I, an admirer of Andrew, and a veteran of the American army, in which he had fought under Duke DeRensis to liberate his homeland. In late 1810, he married Duchess Sinclair, who was already honorary viscountess. It was the first intermarriage between North American nobility. Sylvestre was 39 at the time, one year younger than Sinclair, who then became Grand Duchess Gwendoline. Gwendolyn's children Andrew Hickory Sinclair and Catherine Romanov Sinclair then became the Royal Children of Canada, under the French names André and Cateline. Slyvestre was installed as first Grand Marshal of the Army, and played a key role in making sure Canada would be able to defend itself if ever attacked.

3) Ministre Noel Esnault was the man Anselm ran against and defeated handily in the election for king. Esnault had been a major in the Quebec militia, and had led bands of Francophone rebels against Wellington's troops in the wilderness of Lower Canada, where it was said Esnault became a taker of scalps, something which hurt his reputation. Nonetheless, he was appointed Ministre by Anselm in 1810, and kept the position until his death in 1820 at age 63.

Free City of St. Louis

1) Joseph Bonaparte, Généralissime de Saint-Louis, was the older brother of Louisiana President Napoleon Bonaparte, and had been the first Buonaparte to his Anglicize his name (originally Giuseppe Buonaparte), due to his success as a Mississippi riverboat tycoon. Joseph had built the Casa Buonaparte in New Orleans City in 1791, a massive palatial estate, but he left it to his sisters and their extended family when the Treaty of Tylzasippi (1805) offered him the position of Generalissimo of Saint Louis. The Corsican-American became absolute monarch of the small Francophone city-state. While it may have been small, it was hugely important, as emphasized by its famous "Three Rivers" flag, symbolizing the confluence of the Mississippi, Missouri, and Meramec Rivers all at St. Louis. The coat-of-arms adopted by Joseph was a red cardinal on a white shield, the best-known symbol of the city. Under his reign and wise economic, the Free City boomed. He had married Chastity Chrysler in 1791, heir to a vast fortune in Philadelphia created by her father Christian Charles Chrysler's ship-making company. Joseph couldn't wait for the old man to "keel" over and "hoist the sails" so Chrysler's ships could be made solely to increase the size of St. Louis' fleet and the government-owned St. Louis Trading Company. When C. C. Chrysler died in 1813, that was exactly what happened, and by 1820, the St. Louis Trading Company's vessels were in most ports in North and South America.

2) Gabriel Bonaparte, 1st Prince of St. Louis and Grand Marshal of the Army, was the eldest son of Joseph Bonaparte. Born in 1791, he was an 18 year-old future absolute monarch when the Peace of London occurred, and also an extremely inexperienced Grand Marshal of the Army of St. Louis, simply because of who he was, and was the youngest general in North American history, even if the army was small. He had a keen interest in political matters, and often went on trips to New Orleans City to learn from his uncle, President Napoleon. He was a large contrast to his younger brother, Charles.

3) Charles Bonaparte, 2nd Prince of St. Louis, was born in 1792, the second and final child of Joseph and Chastity Bonaparte. He had served one year in the Louisiana Army and then became more interested in books. He became a poet and novelist, and the author of one of the most popular books of his time at the age of only 18, The Modern Prometheus, about a crazed scientist named Vittorio de Franco trying to bring dead corpses back to life in Ajaccio, Corsica (original home of the Buonparte family). The creature Franco creates then breaks loose and kills Franco's family and torments his mind for years before eventually chasing the scientist to Dolleyland (then a new URAS territory in the far north of former British Canada). This book was immensely popular, and even the Duke of Wellington claimed to have read and enjoyed it; Andrew I claimed it was his favorite novel ever. Charles seldom wore military attire like his brother and father, and was usually gone from St. Louis itself touring the world and writing more books.

4) Chastity Chrysler, Consort of St. Louis, was the wife of Joseph and the mother of Gabriel and Charles Bonaparte. A Catholic and the heir to a vast fortune, she was a very good choice for Joseph. As Consort she had very little power, and to ascend to the throne her husband and two sons would have to die first, but she was an excellent "mascot" and diplomat, and was St. Louis' Ambassador to the URAS on-and-off for her entire reign.

Grand Duchy of Ontario

1) Grand Duke Louis I, (Luigi Buonaparte), was the constitutional monarch of Ontario and a member of the Bonaparte/Buonaprte Family. He had been given the position at the age of 31 by the Peace of London and the breakup of British Canada. He had married Priscilla McGuire, a Scots-Irish Protestant and self-claimed cousin of Andrew I, in 1800, who eventually turned him into a Baptist (1805). He had a large amount of power, but due to the size of his country, had a Prime Minister and Congress, though he "changes prime ministers as he does his clothes, and tries to get by with absolutism in the meantime." He was a staunch advocate of religious liberty and believed conscription the best way to ensure the country would prosper. Thus, every male citizen over the age of 16 was required to serve at least one year in the Ontario Army.

2) Priscilla McGuire, Grand Duchess of Ontario, was the wife of Jerome Bonaparte. A staunch Baptist, she was determined to convert Jerome from "Papist" to Baptist, and eventually succeeded. With their children William (1801), Christina (1803), and Benjamin (1804) so young, she was next-in-line to the throne of the country for many years. She detested her Catholic brother-and-sister-in-laws and was their least-favorite family member, no matter how much Jerome loved her.

Principality of New Brunswick

1) Lucien I, of the House of Bonaparte, Prince of New Brunswick, was another Bonaparte brother placed on a throne by the power of the URAS. Originally New Brunswick, the union of Madawaska and New Brunswick, was to also be reigned over by Andrew, making him King of the United Royal American States and Prince of New Brunswick, but the people said they had a stronger nationality and did not want to be basically a state in the URAS without a governor or representatives in the House of Congress. Thus, the country was leaderless and controlled by the military for quite a few years, until finally Lucien, the last Bonaparte brother not a noble besides Napoleon, was chosen to be constitutional monarch in 1810. It was convenient, as he had already been living there for several years operating a fur company outpost for his brother Joseph. He was a self-proclaimed Deist, so most of the Protestant population did not care about his Catholic past, and the Catholic citizens claimed him as one of their own. In 1805, he married Lucille Arnold, Great Revolution hero, moderate, and Fraternity of Freedom founder Benedict Arnold's daughter, who happened to be helping her then-64 year-old father run a shipping company in St. John, New Brunswick's capital. In 1808, their daughter Letizia was born, named after Lucien and his siblings' mother, Letizia Ramolino Buonaparte. Lucien did not get along well with Napoleon, but had a close relationship with his former employer Joseph, with whose help he had amassed a sizable personal fortune.

2) Lucille Arnold Bonaparte, Princess Consort of New Brunwick, was the daughter of Connecticut General Benedict Arnold and wife of Lucien Bonaparte. Her father had essentially vanished from the public eye during the Reign of Horror, and had gone to St. John to try out being a tradesman. Lucille then met the dashing Lucien operating a fur company for his brother Joseph. As the Princess Consort, she was powerless, but had a taste for architecture and a large hand in the shaping of the look of St. John, which became one of the nicest cities in all of former British Canada.

3) Levi Lincoln, Sr., the first Prime Minister of New Brunswick, was actually an American from Massachusetts' Maine district who had been a hero during the "War for New Brunswick Independence." He brought many former Tories and Loyalists into the fold and helped end the New Brunswick Rebellion of 1812.

The New Brunswick Loyalist Association was the primary pro-British revanchist organization during the New Brunswick Rebellion of 1812, which was brutally crushed by Lucien I with the help of a URAS-provided army at the Battles of St. John and Franklinton. The short-lived Association all but disappeared when thirty of their leaders, mainly angry British officers, under General Barnabas Griffith, who had refused to surrender after the Peace of London were hanged at one time in St. John, in a place which then became known as Gallows Square. The brutal examples set deterred any further noteworthy resistance.

The Duchy of Wataga

1) Jerome I, General-Duke of Wataga, of the House of Bonaparte, was the constitutional monarch of Wataga (formerly Watauga/Watagua). He was put in this position by the 1805 Treaty of Tylzasippi which also installed his oldest brother Joseph as Generalissimo of St. Louis. He had served in the Republican Army during Indian Uprisings in Louisiana's central states, fighting under Napoleon when Napoleon was still a soldier. Unfortunately for him, his "future wife" Constance DuPont worked for Mad Anthony Wayne and under his orders attempted to assassinate Napoleon when he was elected President of Louisiana, shooting him in the shoulder, sparking the Second Seven Years' War. Jerome had always been Napoleon's favorite brother, but it was said that Jerome was punished by being given Wataga to rule over, especially given that it was declared a duchy, instead of a grand duchy, which it actually was. Brutal policies and martial law were implemented to bring the anarchist state to heel. Jerome was later congratulated by his brothers and Andrew I for doing such a good job at taking over. By 1812, Wataga was at least under control.

2) Elizabeth Patterson Bonaparte, Duchess Consort of Wataga, was the daughter of a wealthy, Irish-Catholic, Baltimore, Maryland merchant, one of the wealthiest Maryland citizens. She married Jerome in 1803, in a wedding presided over by John Carroll, Archbishop of Baltimore. She reportedly thought Wataga was dreadful, but nonetheless seemed content after a while (and after Jerome had built a huge estate in the countryside). Beginning in 1807, they went on a "baby spree," resulting in Jerome II, Louis-Napoleon, Elizabeth, Matthew, John Baptist, James, Selena, and Bartholomew.

3) William Blount was the first Prime Minister of the Duchy of Wataga. Appointed in 1805, he held the position until his death in 1835. He was originally a North Carolina native, but fled to the American Republic when North Carolina seceded from Union upon the electing of the Triumvirate. He was very good friends with Jerome I, and was a respected political figure. He also played a large part in getting the lawless Wataga under control. Blount made a trip to France in 1820, where he convinced European nobility that not all the western Americans were uneducated rabble, and was given numerous awards by French polymaths for his contributions to science, which he dabbled in on the side.

Still not done! Next is Kaintuck, followed by the Mexican states.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by marcus_aurelius

While not necessarily Catholics (and certainly not royalty), I do believe Marcus A. Dickens, Jr., and Charles A. Dickens are hugely interested in Margaret and Rebecca...

Marc A

P.S. This certainly is political marriage at its best, although Marc and Charles are quite keen on this to the point of begging...

Well, this would create a powerful Pennsylvania-New England political alliance

What years were your sons born?

Edit: Napoleon, what are Albert Gallatin and Sam Houston up to? By the way, I was just telling you about marrying my daughters now so you can prepare it for the future I expect at least one to be part of the Jackson clan!

[marcus_aurelius]

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

Well, this would create a powerful Pennsylvania-New England political alliance

What years were your sons born?

Edit: Napoleon, what are Albert Gallatin and Sam Houston up to? By the way, I was just telling you about marrying my daughters now so you can prepare it for the future I expect at least one to be part of the Jackson clan!

The AKII Wiki said I died in 1830 at the age of 60... I'm hereby putting in an official request to extend my lifespan to 70. Should it go through here's my children's DOBs:

Wilhelmina Elizabeth "Minnie" (1809) - elder twin of Marc
Marcus Augustus Jr. "Marc" (1809) - younger twin of Minnie
Charles Anthony "Chuck" (1811) - third son
Andrew George "Andy" (1815) - fourth son

So, my dear duke, it's gonna be between my grandchildren and your kid...

Marc A

[Nevermore]

More political developments to come, eh? Looking forward to seeing the big players of the various Mexican states and Crockett, the latter especially.

The distinct divide between 'Canada'/Quebec and the former English speaking colonies on what's OTL's Canadian east coast seems to me something that could potentially go numerous ways. At least in the sense that it seems like New Brunswick isn't going to be able to expand anywhere, really (except possibly a little to the east). 'Canada'/Quebec could very well be poised to spread her influence further west, bringing her into conflict with the URAS, perhaps. Then again, I suppose it depends on how long the latter nation stays in tact as well...

I have my doubts on the long term viability of a free St. Louis, though, to be honest. As cool as it is for my current place of residence to be independent and pretty powerful at this point in time, polities generally based on trading don't seem to last in the long term, especially something so small as a city-state. Granted, maybe other powers would just ask the question of 'what's the point in annexing it?' but the fact that it's going to be totally landlocked and with the possibility of different shipping routes being found and exploited to avoid things like tariffs, etc.

Charles Bonaparte as Mary Shelley, though? Super cool, even if de Franco isn't quite as cool sounding as Frankenstein, IMHO. And a minister in Canada who was a possible scalp taker? A colorful cast, indeed. The Grand Duchy of Ontario should be an interesting nation to watch for in the future. I'm very curious as to what its role is eventually going to become. Not to mention: it seems like Napoleon Bonaparte is becoming North America's Genghis Khan. Soon there won't be a royal family not related to him.

Reading over New Brunswick actually reminded me: if I'm not mistaken, we really haven't received an update for British loyalists in the various American kingdoms. I'm guessing that the American republic probably dealt with them very harshly, even more so than some instances than OTL. Impalement and all that. However, the loss of all the colonies on North America's eastern seaboard means, well, not sure what. Caribbean's out, there's always the Mosquito Coast or British Honduras, I suppose, or Australia. I think what's going on with them would be something to touch upon, Napoleon.

Ouch. Jerome sure got the short end of the stick there. Granted, not everyone gets their own country, but it certainly seems like something that could create a rift between Nappy and Jerome there. Or, perhaps, maybe not Jerome but a future descendant of his. Either way, I don't see this ending well at all in the future.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by marcus_aurelius

The AKII Wiki said I died in 1830 at the age of 60... I'm hereby putting in an official request to extend my lifespan to 70. Should it go through here's my children's DOBs:

Wilhelmina Elizabeth "Minnie" (1809) - elder twin of Marc
Marcus Augustus Jr. "Marc" (1809) - younger twin of Minnie
Charles Anthony "Chuck" (1811) - third son
Andrew George "Andy" (1815) - fourth son

So, my dear duke, it's gonna be between my grandchildren and your kid...

Marc A

Wonderful! You're grandson and my first born daughter in wedded bliss! We'll join our houses! How's June, 1872 sound to you?

We shall create a powerful Whig political alliance between Pennsylvania and New England that will last for decades!

Edit: As for age, why don't you decide to grow old with me? I plan on dying in 1875 at 97 That would only make you 105.....completely possible!

[marcus_aurelius]

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

Wonderful! You're grandson and my first born daughter in wedded bliss! We'll join our houses! How's June, 1872 sound to you?

We shall create a powerful Whig political alliance between Pennsylvania and New England that will last for decades!

Edit: As for age, why don't you decide to grow old with me? I plan on dying in 1875 at 97 That would only make you 105.....completely possible!

Marcus A. Dickens III says yes. And that's a good day too. May the House of Dickens-DeRensis (or DeRensis-Dickens, if you prefer it that way) live long and prosper!

The age issue... as awesome as it may sound for a former Marine to hold the world record of his era as the longest living person, I'm not sure if medical technology of the day allows it. This isn't ASB, after all. OTOH, if Napo53 has plans...

Marc A

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by marcus_aurelius

Marcus A. Dickens III says yes. And that's a good day too. May the House of Dickens-DeRensis (or DeRensis-Dickens, if you prefer it that way) live long and prosper!

The age issue... as awesome as it may sound for a former Marine to hold the world record of his era as the longest living person, I'm not sure if medical technology of the day allows it. This isn't ASB, after all. OTOH, if Napo53 has plans...

Marc A

Long may our glorious union prosper well into the 20th century! I really don't care about the name, I'm sure Napoleon will come up with something anyway. Look at us, forming political alliances while the author is offline

I don't think its that ASB. Besides, I need someone to grow old with! I can't just be sitting at a dinner party in my 90s asking "Who else remembers what the Triumvirate was like?!" and not getting any response

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

Long may our glorious union prosper well into the 20th century! I really don't care about the name, I'm sure Napoleon will come up with something anyway. Look at us, forming political alliances while the author is offline

I don't think its that ASB. Besides, I need someone to grow old with! I can't just be sitting at a dinner party in my 90s asking "Who else remembers what the Triumvirate was like?!" and not getting any response

Hey, you'll be able to see me everywhere in America, when I die.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Hey, you'll be able to see me everywhere in America, when I die.

Ah yes, a man in his 90s speaking to a painting of a dead woman is perfectly natural. I want to end my life as an elder statesman, not in a 19th century retirement home!

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Rooster Cogburn

Ah yes, a man in his 90s speaking to a painting of a dead woman is perfectly natural. I want to end my life as an elder statesman, not in a 19th century retirement home!

Well, if you want to, you could take a trip to Canada, where my husband or son will be ruling by the time I die.

[metastasis_d]

Loving the political update. Can't comment on all of it because I'm lazy, but rest assured I've enjoyed all of them.

[Napoleon53]

Wow, guys, talk about getting ahead of ourselves. I'm not sure what's going to happen yet for sure past about 1850. I do have a plan with Dickens' assassination... *maniacal laughter*

I'll try to respond to all these posts when I get up in the morning, have my coffee, and become generally hyper and pound out new chapters.

EDIT: And darn it, people! U wil dye wen i zays!!1!!!1!! *The Dictator Cohen finger-waggle*

[marcus_aurelius]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

Wow, guys, talk about getting ahead of ourselves. I'm not sure what's going to happen yet for sure past about 1850. I do have a plan with Dickens' assassination... *maniacal laughter*

I'll try to respond to all these posts when I get up in the morning, have my coffee, and become generally hyper and pound out new chapters.

EDIT: And darn it, people! U wil dye wen i zays!!1!!!1!! *The Dictator Cohen finger-waggle*

Dickens? Assassination? YOU BASTARD!

Well you better have a good reason for that to happen, or my sons will raise holy hell. That, by the way, is a promise.

Marc A

[wiiguy]

I wonder how my guy will fit into the craziness whe he comes about...

Did you make all those flags yourself? They're amazing!

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by wiiguy

I wonder how my guy will fit into the craziness whe he comes about...

Did you make all those flags yourself? They're amazing!

I've seen some of them acquired in the Flag thread.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

EDIT: And darn it, people! U wil dye wen i zays!!1!!!1!! *The Dictator Cohen finger-waggle*

Careful Napoleon. Its that kind of talk that might spark a revolution