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Seven Jedi
Here it goes, my attempt to answer the question: What if the Star Wars prequels were actually good. I realize that there may be plausibility issues here. And I apologize for that.
By the early nineties there had been something of a revival in the popularity of the Star Wars franchise, and it was this revival that motivated George Lucas to create a new series of films. According to Lucas co-writer Lawrence Kasdan, Lucas had decided to return to the series in 1992, and the first full draft was written that year. The script, jokingly entitled "Seven Jedi", was unashamed of its inspirations. As he had done originally, Lucas had decided to borrow some of Kurosawa's material in crafting the newest film. Kasdan was asked to polish the dialogue, and in the process some plot elements were changed. Kasdan also served as a sounding board for Lucas during the brainstorm portion of the projects' development. According to Kasdan, the original script was somewhat too close to the source material. Putting the matter bluntly, Kasdan claimed that Lucas had written not a Star Wars film, but Seven Samurai in space. Lucas admitted that his initial script was in need of revision, reminding an interviewer that, "there's a reason you don't start shooting with your first draft." Lucas has said that during the initial writing process, he had been overcome with writers block. He wanted to write another movie, and indeed, if we are to take the director at his word, he had already crafted much of the overarching plot of the prequels before he had begun work on the first draft. Lucas has said that he and Kasdan quickly decided upon a few plot elements. Lucas claims responsibility for the prequels' central conceit. The movie was to be Darth Vader's story, with the entire movie series retroactively becoming in Lucas' words, "the saga of Anakin Skywalker." Kasdan has said that it was him, and not Lucas, who decided that Anakin ought to be the protagonist of the prequel trilogy. He said initially, Lucas wanted the main character in the film to be Obi-Wan Kenobi. But Kasdan argued that if the films were to be about Anakin's fall, he ought to be the protagonist as well. Lucas and Kasdan decided to create a series "bible" before they began work on the exact plot details of any of the films. Consequently, Anakin's personality and the reasoning behind his eventual fall was determined before the plot of the first film was decided upon. Kasdan claims that they knew Anakin was an idealist, that he wanted to protect people, and that this desire had been warped into an authoritarian lust for power, leading to his temptation by the Dark Side of the Force. The pair also hashed out many of the details of the Emperor's rise to power in the early planning period. The general outline of the film series was therefore developed before Lucas or Kasdan had begun attempting to write a first draft for the first film. When he attempted to do so, Lucas admitted to having writer's block. Kasdan has claimed that when Lucas first sought to write the script for Attack of the Clones, the only element he knew in advance was that it would involve some kind of rescue mission. In the midst of his writers block, Lucas had attended a showing of Kurosawa's Seven Samurai. While Lucas has always maintained that he had the film more or less planned out back in the 1970's, the inspiration of that showing cannot be underestimated. Shortly thereafter, Lucas was finally able to begin work on the first draft of Episode I. Soon, "Seven Jedi" was quickly on its way to completion. Lucas presented the draft to Kasdan in the spring of 1992, and revision began almost immediately. When Lucas approved the final script, the film no longer followed the plot of the inspirational film as closely. Both Lucas and Kasdan decided that introducing a love interest for Anakin in the film was of paramount importance. Lucas had attempted to do so in the first draft, but the first draft’s version of the character that became Queen Padme was poorly characterized. Kasdan decided that she should be someone who lusted after adventure, “in a lot of ways, I borrowed from the first film. In effect, I decided to make her Luke. I decided that Padme felt trapped on her planet. Her status forbidding her to have much of a life outside the palace, and that this was her motivation for joining Anakin and Obi-Wan on their quest to save Tattooine from the forces of Darth Maul and the Galactic Confederacy’s Clone Army.” Eventually, the script was completed. Though Attack of the Clones was one of the two best grossing films of 1997 along with Titanic, perhaps a quick plot summary is in order. Quote:
Excerpted from A History of Star Wars by Christopher Smith. Last edited by Glass Onion; May 29th, 2012 at 09:29 PM.. |
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Good to finally see this out in the open!
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Thanks, how is this draft of Episode I? I'm still stuck on casting Anakin though.
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In terms of casting for Anakin, the more I think upon it, the more I think Paul Bettany may be a good choice. He's a good actor, has the height (6' 3"), and would be a reasonable age for the role as you have laid it out (if we assume that principle photography begins 2-3 years before your 1997 release, he would have been about 23-4 years old at the start of filming. Kate Beckinsale would be two years younger than her leading man in this, about 21-2 at the start of filming. Just for completeness, I'll note that Gary Oldman would be about 36 at the start of filming.
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Duly noted.
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Lucas eventually decided upon an unorthodox choice for the role of Anakin Skywalker. As was his way, the director decided to cast an all but unknown actor. While he had done work on stage, and was known for having performed the role of Bill Sikes in a BBC production of Oliver Twist, Paul Bettany was not then a commonly recognized actor. And indeed, American audiences had no familiarity with him whatsoever. Lucas always preferred casting unknown or barely known actors, and indeed reportedly fretted about whether or not Gary Oldman was too commonly recognizable to play the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi. When questioned about why he chose Paul Bettany, Lucas has said that Bettany’s screen test was better than the other choices for the role. But the question is more complicated than that quick answer implies. The truth of the matter is that Lucas had decided fairly early on that he wanted to cast an English actor in the role. So the rumors that he was looking for another Mark Hamill for the role had no basis in reality. He had always intended for the role to go to a Paul Bettany type, according to sources close to the director. The role would eventually catapult Bettany to stardom in the United States, and the role of Anakin Skywalker still remains one of Bettany’s defining performances. Though Lucas intended to move away from Hamill while casting Anakin, the director famously used Hamill’s casting in the original film as a defense for picking the largely unknown Bettany. He noted that Hamill too had not been particularly well known before Star Wars had been released.
Still, the decision did not receive much criticism. Most fans of the series were too excited about the prospect of a new film to be much concerned with the movie’s casting. The general consensus among fans of the series was to trust Lucas where casting was concerned. After all, he had done a stellar job on that front in the past where that was concerned. In the original series, Lucas had picked Hamill, Fisher, and Ford to play the films three leads. And no fan of the original films would be willing to say that any of those choices had been poor. With Bettany cast, immediate attention turned towards the film’s villains, Darth Maul and Count Deak. Lucas described Maul in the script as something out of nightmare. He described Maul as looking like a more frightening version of the Devil. He admitted to wanting to give Maul an iconic look; he wanted the film’s villain to be as instantly visually memorable as Darth Vader had been decades earlier. Lucas undoubtedly succeeded in that regard. Maul does look like the Devil, and his appearance is certainly both memorable and iconic. As had been the case with Vader, two different actors working in concert with one another in effect portrayed the role. In place of David Prowse, Doug Jones would portray the physical presence of Darth Maul. In place of James Earl Jones, the voice acting credit would go to Keith David. The Vader inspiration is obvious when one considers the casting of Keith David. Like James Earl Jones, David is an African American Actor noted for the deep tenor of his voice. In casting Count Deak, Lucas decided to go with a much less orthodox pick. Indeed, of all the casting decisions made during the pre-production of Attack of the Clones, none has raised the same amount of fan speculation as the casting of Billy Dee Williams in the role of Count Deak. Lucas has never gone on record as to why that particular decision was made, but a partial explanation may lie in the back-story that had been established during the development of the original trilogy. Lucas had originally decided that the character Williams portrayed in the original films was actually a clone, and that his origins were intimately connected with the Clone Wars. Therefore, Williams casting may arguably be considered a reference to these early ideas about his previous character. The casting may also have been a calculated move on Lucas’ part to encourage fan speculation, and therefore excitement for the project not that too much was needed. And to this day, theories abound as to the relationship between Deak and Lando, Lucas having stifled efforts to provide a definitive answer to the question in the Expanded Universe. Fan explanations range from Lando simply being a clone of Deak’s, to the slightly more outlandish claim that Lando is actually Deak’s son. Given Lucas’ earlier thoughts about Lando, the Clone claim seems to be the marginally more likely of the two. The role of Senator Palpatine went to Ian McDiarmid, who had played the part of the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. The last two actors to be cast in the film were the ones who portrayed Owen Lars and Beru Skywalker. Lucas instructions for their casting were slightly different then the ones concerning Anakin and Obi-Wan. Lucas reportedly wanted the actors playing Owen and Beru to exude a kind of All-American quality. Aside from the villains, Owen and Beru would be the only American actors in the film’s main cast, leaving aside extras and very minor roles in the film. The casting process with Owen and Beru was further complicated by the fact that the characters had appeared in the original film. Like Oldman, whoever was cast in the roles would have to step into a role that had already been established by another pair of actors decades earlier. Therefore, Lucas was searching for actors who could logically be seen as the younger versions of the Owen and Beru seen in the original film. This instruction made the process all the more difficult. Given these preconditions, the fact that these were the last characters to be cast is hardly surprising. The irony is, for all the casting couch’s deference to the original film, Owen and Beru play a much stronger role in Attack of the Clones then they do in the original movie. Here, they are the perspective character. Though Anakin is the film’s clear protagonist, in many respects we see the film through their eyes. The casting of the future Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru would be of the utmost importance if the film was to succeed. |
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I like your casting update - I will be curious to see who you cast as Owen and Beru.
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Eventually, Diane Lane was cast as Beru Skywalker, and Kiefer Sutherland was cast in the role of Owen Lars. There was some concern that Sutherland was too young for the role during the casting process. But his audition for the role was evidently better than his competition. And it is easy to imagine how the Owen Lars portrayed by Sutherland would grow up into the character seen in the original film. Sutherland excelled at portraying the resentment implicit in Kasdan’s script. Owen, of course, was someone who had never left home. And there were many allusions to Owen’s resentment of Anakin in the script, beginning with a snide reference to Anakin’s accent. There was some concern among those surrounding Lucas that Sutherland would look too young in comparison to Bettany. Luckily, thanks to a whole host of physical traits, at the time Bettany was a rather young looking actor. Sutherland’s acting, when combined with makeup and the tricks of the cinematic profession, was more than enough to make the age difference between the two seem to be much more than the 5 year difference that actually existed. Sutherland excelled at playing Owen Lars. Indeed, his performance added a certain degree of pathos to the role that had not truly existed in 1977. Given the circumstances, there can be no higher compliment than to say that Sutherland made the role his own.
Diane Lane’s performance was different from that of Sutherland. Unlike Owen Lars, there was no suggestion in the script that Beru resented her brother, or believed that he was wrong to have left Tattooine. As written, Beru is an affectionate older sibling, eager to hear what her closest relative in the galaxy has been up to for an unspecified amount of time. She counterbalances what would otherwise be venomous antipathy on the part of Owen Lars. In some respects this difference was inspired by the implicit situation in the original film. When the characters had first appeared Beru was far more willing than Owen to allow Luke to leave the farm. But like Sutherland, Diane Lane definitely added certain qualities to the role. More than a decade later is truly difficult to imagine anyone else in the role. The final casting decision to be made was that of Lord Panaka. While in Attack of the Clones, the characters appearance would amount almost to a cameo, Lucas and Kasdan reportedly planned to increase his presence in the following films. Therefore, the casting decision could not be treated as lightly as its brief nature in the film might otherwise warrant. There was a considerable amount of deliberation about precisely who was going to play Panaka. Eventually Lucas and company settled upon a Scottish actor who was just then breaking into the film and television industry in Britain, one Christopher Eccleston. It was a casting decision that would have a much greater impact upon the film’s immediate sequel than the film itself, but nonetheless, the quality of the pick should once again be commended. It was also a casting decision the spurred a thousand fan theories when, in 2005, Eccleston was cast as the title character in the BBC's revamped version of its long running Science Fiction program, Doctor Who. While Lucas has faults elsewhere, he never faltered where casting was concerned. Once Eccleston was cast, what was left was a simple matter of collecting the various extras and stuntmen who would round out the rest of the film. Filming began in June of 1995 and lasted until September of that year. Locations varied between the Tunisian desert, Leavensdon Film studios, and the Caserta Palace in Italy. Lucas used the development of Attack of the Clones as an excuse to experiment with CGI and to see how far the technology could be used. Having backed off an initial idea to make one of the characters all CGI in the film due to what were then the restraints of the technology, Lucas contented himself with filling in the background. If there was a problem with Attack of the Clones, it was this experimentation. While the background looked fine by the standards of 1997, it has not aged well. Nonetheless, it is hardly a film-ruining situation. The rest of the film is good enough to distract the viewer from any problems in the background. The film was the most hotly anticipated film of 1997, with good reason. The Star Wars franchise continued to have a devoted following despite the fact that the last film in the original trilogy had been released over a decade prior to the release of Attack of the Clones. Additionally, thanks to VHS, a new generation of fans had grown up in the years since the films had left theaters. The release was also planned for the 20th anniversary of the original film’s 1977 release. The film’s release prompted long camp out lines at movie theaters, with many devoted fans waiting patiently to be among the first people to obtain the tickets to see Attack Of the Clones. Needless to say, the film opened to an otherwise incredible reception. The film was one of the two best selling films of the year. To say that 1997 was a good year for Hollywood is a dire understatement. Attack of the Clones was certainly the biggest film of the summer of 1997, even if Titanic eventually outsold Episode I. The film was the public’s introduction to a wide variety of actors, who all made a good impression on the fresh American audience. Paul Bettany has said that he could hardly have hoped for a better American debut. The film also received an enormously positive critical response. Attack of the Clones, in short was exactly the film that was expected. While expectations were almost unreachably high, the film came about as close to meeting them. Almost immediately after the film’s release, plans for the sequel began to be developed. After much deliberation, and steady lobbying on the part of Steven Spielberg, George Lucas eventually decided against directing the film’s second sequel. A few months after the release of Attack of the Clones the announcement was made that Steven Spielberg would direct the next film, while George Lucas would continue to be the film’s executive producer. Lucas explained that while the next film would continue to establish the background to Anakin’s eventual fall, he wanted the next film to have the kind of almost optimistic tone that Spielberg could provide. With Spielberg signed on to direct, preproduction for the next film would begin in 1998. |
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Ah Glass Onion you did nothave to place a Doctor Who reference in your Star Wars thread just for little old me!
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On a more serious note this is another good casting post. I love Diane Lane but sh is almost too sexy for young Beru. Oddly enough I can totally see Kiefer as young Owen. Agree e will need some aging but Hollywood does that all the time and here it just needs to be minor tweaks.
Panaka being a bigger part of Episode II and now being Chris Eccleston. I have confidence you will put him to good use. It is fun making the whole Doctor Who Star Wars connection.
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While on the subject of Eccleston and Doctor Who, I really liked his performance in that role. Not an expert in that series so I do not know how genuine fans of the series viewed/view him, but I thought he gave a good performance. |
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ASB, Star Wars movies are all terrible, prequels and originals.
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However, I have to remind you, that this is not exactly the first time an actor had both a Dr. Who and a Star Wars connection. Cushing as Dr. Who ![]() ![]() Cushing as Grand Moff Tarkin
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Funny, very funny...
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Subscribed.
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It's a tense scene, and it is not altogether clear that Owen will be able to arrive at his destination.
I like that you specify that the scene must be tense; lacking that is one of the big problems with the prequels. I found myself having to draw a little quick family tree when you mentioned that Beru was Anakin's sister, and that Obi-wan was Owen's brother. Very nice. One suggestion I have while reading: For purposes of the TL, maybe add a timestamp every few paragraphs (or scene change) so we can tell how long the movie would be at each point. Glad you cut down on the final battle having too many different scenes to keep track of.
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Sorry for the multi-posts; posting as I read each update.
Main three: Good picks. Keith David: Excellent pick Billy Dee: Strange pick, but I like it. Judge Hershey : Excellent pick. This better not butterfly away Judge Dredd! (it will ![]() )Kiefer Sutherland: Haven't seen many of his movies from the mid 90s, but seems like you're doing good so far. Christopher Eccleston: Excellent pick! Having trouble trying to imagine him as closer to the Gone in 60 Seconds age than the Doctor Who age.
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It can't butterfly away Judge Dredd. Well, I suppose it could given the divergence to make this happen could conceivably be in the 1980's since we're talking about Lucas making the decision earlier and being more willing to collaborate butterflies being butterflies. But in any event, Diane Lane's casting alone, all else equal, won't prevent Judge Dredd from being made. That film was released in the summer of 1995, which is when the film I've discussed thus far would begin filming. Chronologically speaking, Judge Dredd was probably filmed at least a year earlier. It's films released in 1996-1997 you have to worry about. Though maybe I have the release date wrong, seeing as I am relying on Wikipedia.
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Well, to know precisely how much time has transpired between scenes, I'd have to actually make the film, wouldn't I? More seriously, I'm terrible at math, and estimating how long each scene would be may be beyond me.
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