Bloody Brandenburg

[Gladi]

Bright day
I know I am bit overreacting, but would it not hurt you seeing your country ocupied 70 percents of time? (If there is any Frenchman here, my condolences good sir!).

So allow me to come with simple challange. Have kings of Bohemia retain (yeah, retain no get!) margravate of Brandenburg as long as you can with plausibly stacked deck .

[carlton_bach]

Didn't they obtain it in the late 13th century? Or was it later?

At any rate I don't see this as too great a problem. Have the Margravate not pass into the hands of the Hohenzollern. Best if the Bohemians also kick Habsburg arse, but either way Brandenburg prior to the 1500s is a poor, backward, sparsely populated area shared by Germans and Wends. It is the influx of settlers and strong state orientation towards German that made it a 'German' state in the 17th and 18th century. If it is under a strong Bohemian crown, it could well develop more analogous to Poland, with the upper class speaking German at home, and multilingual communities coexisting more-or-less-peacefully.

Whe does this end? Depends. Does Bohemia fall to the Habsburgs? In that case it will secede with the Reformation. Might join Poland or Mecklenburg. Does Bohemia stay independent? In that case it might well last until, well, indefinitely, since we just nixed Prussia, which throws German history out of kilter. Best case gives you until sometime in the early 20th century, when ethnic nation states become the norm and an either Wendish/Polish or German majority takes over.

[Gladi]

Originally Posted by carlton_bach

Didn't they obtain it in the late 13th century? Or was it later?

Second half of 14th .

Uh I was realy rather out of my mind after weekend and seeing another batch of Gross Deutschlands, but I think I should leave this.

Main problem outside of Sigismund giving it away are possibly Hussite wars and yet another dynastical change .

But good ideas. It would be interesting to see such German history...