Your favorite U.S. PRESIDENT?

[oakvale]

Originally Posted by Dzlibertarian

My lifetime: Reagan- When are tax cuts a bad thing? NEVER!!!!! When is standing up for freedom against totalitarian governments a bad thing? Never!!!

20th Century: NOT FDR for expanding government largess when the economy was in the crapper. He delayed the American recovery by a good 5 years.

Sure as heck not Wilson for his expanding government by creating the illegal Federal Reserve and bringing in an illegal income tax.

Truman though he was a political intersessor responsible for the rebirth of Israel and started the ball in expanding civil rights, Korea was his mistake.

TR although did a lot with regards to conservation can not have this honor... He was a big government progressive.

IKE almost gets it for his infastructor and domestic policies. But the winner though not by much is

Ronald Reagan

All time: Washington without a doubt.

This is funniest, angriest, and most shameless bit of hackery I've ever seen.

EDIT: I mean, Jesus, you rant about 'big government' (the horror!) and then praise Eisenhower for the Highways Act? Yikes!

[RogueBeaver]

Either he's a very impassioned Ron Paulite or a Teabagger. I'm leaning towards a Ron Paul supporter.

[Dzlibertarian]

Maybe I shouldn't have went with the Highways Act. But what about how he handled Korea?

[RogueBeaver]

Ike handled Korea as best it could be handled. He was a great man, but not a great President IMO.

[Dzlibertarian]

I respect that RogueBeaver. It was the Ron Paul supporters that started the Tea Party movement not that ingenuine Glenn Beck. He co-opeded them.

[RogueBeaver]

My favourites are Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson and FDR for the Greats. In the B+ category are Truman, Ike, JFK, Nixon, and Bush Sr. Wilson had Marcosian leanings in civil liberties and was a Verwoerd wannabe on race.

[The New Freedom]

Originally Posted by Dzlibertarian

My lifetime: Reagan- When are tax cuts a bad thing? NEVER!!!!! When is standing up for freedom against totalitarian governments a bad thing? Never!!!

Um, tax cuts are particularly a good thing to enact when you have piled up deficits, now are they? All Reagan's tax cuts did was bring the budget deficit up to historic levels while the American rich got to cut jobs or send them overseas.

As for 'standing up against totalitarian governments', yes, Reagan did absolutely the right thing when it came to actually sitting down with Gorbachev and y'know, avoiding nuclear war, but that's one of his only high marks in that department. Don't forget that Reagan illegally funded death squads in Nicaragua with the profits from arms sales to Iran.

20th Century: NOT FDR for expanding government largess when the economy was in the crapper. He delayed the American recovery by a good 5 years.

Except that the New Deal actually pushed the recovery forward. By 1936, Unemployment had fallen from it's high of 25% back down to a much more manageable level. I will agree that FDR did delay recovery, but not on the same terms you do. FDR delayed recovery when he took the advice of Moregenthau and the Congress and cut spending before recovery had been achieved. Had he not done this, the country would have been out of the Depression by '38 at the latest. For a practical example of how spending gets you out of a Depression, see Sweden, which was out of the Depression by 1934.

Sure as heck not Wilson for his expanding government by creating the illegal Federal Reserve and bringing in an illegal income tax.

I'm not a huge fan of the Federal Reserve as it currently exists, but it's certainly an improvement over the days when there was no centralized system of banking at all. As for the income tax, you seem to forget that yes, while the SCOTUS ruled it was unconstitutional prior to the 16th Amendment, that line of thought became a moot point with the amendment of the Constitution. The income tax is as American as apple pie. So much so that it's written into our Constitution.

Truman though he was a political intersessor responsible for the rebirth of Israel and started the ball in expanding civil rights, Korea was his mistake.

Absolutely agreed on everything but Korea. The Korean War itself wasn't a mistake in my view (would it really have been prudent to allow Kim Il-Sung control of the whole peninsula?), but it's execution, yes, was botched. I don't think that solely lies on Truman, though. It's a combination of his missteps and MacArthur being an asshole.

TR although did a lot with regards to conservation can not have this honor... He was a big government progressive.

You realize that conservation programs are 'big government' programs, don't you?

IKE almost gets it for his infastructor and domestic policies. But the winner though not by much is

Government building roads? Isn't that Socialism?

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by Dzlibertarian

My lifetime: Reagan- When are tax cuts a bad thing? NEVER!!!!! When is standing up for freedom against totalitarian governments a bad thing? Never!!!

20th Century: NOT FDR for expanding government largess when the economy was in the crapper. He delayed the American recovery by a good 5 years.

Sure as heck not Wilson for his expanding government by creating the illegal Federal Reserve and bringing in an illegal income tax.

Truman though he was a political intersessor responsible for the rebirth of Israel and started the ball in expanding civil rights, Korea was his mistake.

TR although did a lot with regards to conservation can not have this honor... He was a big government progressive.

IKE almost gets it for his infastructor and domestic policies. But the winner though not by much is

Ronald Reagan

All time: Washington without a doubt.

AGHHHHRHRRR!

TO MUCH MADNESS!!!

[Polish Eagle]

Wait, who bumped the thread? I was just about to post again until I realized I posted in November.

[Cook]

Oh God!
More politics!

[statichaos]

I know that this has already been asked at least once, but why is this in Alternate History?

[RogueBeaver]

Because the thread was started by a troll.

[Rob Bartlett]

Originally Posted by statichaos

I know that this has already been asked at least once, but why is this in Alternate History?

I don't know, but at least the votes for Reagan are justifying it.

[statichaos]

Originally Posted by RogueBeaver

Because the thread was started by a troll.

Yes. I was somehow hoping for a different answer, but that does seem to be the most likely one. Or if not that, then at least someone who doesn't pay much attention.