Linguistics help for my TL

[XanXar]

Hello everyone, I'm here to ask for some help regarding linguistics. my timeline (Link in my sig), is about the survival of Al-Andalus. In my timeline Al-Andalus itself is pretty anti-Arab itself, so most likely Arabic will be less enforced (And much like latin would only be used for religous purposes and be no longer in use for secular use) and the language will probably be more Iberian. So this what I've come to ask about.
What would a language such as this be called?
Would it be Latin or Semitic?
Would it contain more Castilian or Arabic loan words?

[LSCatilina]

Originally Posted by XanXar

age will probably be more Iberian. So this what I've come to ask about.
What would a language such as this be called?

Probably a name based on Hispania/Spania or Al-Andalus.

Would it be Latin or Semitic?

I can see, in fact, two languages appear.
1)One close to OTL Spanish, corresponding more or less to Mozarabic dialects. It would be in relation with independents (if you're going to have such) christian languages.

2)One Arabic, equivalent to Arabo-Siculan or Maltese. Clearly more influenced by romance than OTL Arabo-Andalusian. Still semitic though.

[XanXar]

Originally Posted by LSCatilina

Probably a name based on Hispania/Spania or Al-Andalus.


I can see, in fact, two languages appear.
1)One close to OTL Spanish, corresponding more or less to Mozarabic dialects. It would be in relation with independents (if you're going to have such) christian languages.

2)One Arabic, equivalent to Arabo-Siculan or Maltese. Clearly more influenced by romance than OTL Arabo-Andalusian. Still semitic though.

How about Andalusian or Andalusi for a name?

I think the two language idea is very interesting... Do you have any idea for the geography of which the two languages correlate, perhaps the Latin one in the north and the Semetic one in the south.

Latin - Hispani?
Semetic - Andalusi?

[LSCatilina]

Originally Posted by XanXar

How about Andalusian or Andalusi for a name?

Probably the most obvious choice.

I think the two language idea is very interesting... Do you have any idea for the geography of which the two languages correlate, perhaps the Latin one in the north and the Semetic one in the south.

I think they will be pretty co-existing, while having more romance speakers in north and arabic in south.
Romance language couldn't be in the situation of diglossia it was OTL, as you will have christian (unconverted) nobles that would have autonomous demesnes.

Latin - Hispani?

Hispani is more a word used by carolingians for calling the refugees and migrants from peninsula.

I would suggest less based on classical latin and more on vulgar romance.
Something like Spannos (Spanios) probably, or Spannis.

[MNP]

Pre-Umayyad Al-Andalus coins often were stamped with the letters "S-P-N."

[LSCatilina]

Originally Posted by MNP

Pre-Umayyad Al-Andalus coins often were stamped with the letters "S-P-N."

As well visigothic and merovingian (for Gaul in a large meaning) widely used "Spanni" or "Spani".

I do not know how the name "HIspani" loose the HI but I suspect it was during the 600's era.

[XanXar]

Originally Posted by LSCatilina

Probably the most obvious choice.


I think they will be pretty co-existing, while having more romance speakers in north and arabic in south.
Romance language couldn't be in the situation of diglossia it was OTL, as you will have christian (unconverted) nobles that would have autonomous demesnes.


Hispani is more a word used by carolingians for calling the refugees and migrants from peninsula.

I would suggest less based on classical latin and more on vulgar romance.
Something like Spannos (Spanios) probably, or Spannis.

Alright, I'll be sure to use these suggestions for Age of Al-Andalus.

[LSCatilina]

Now, it would probably take some time for having languages distinct from Arabic and from vulgar latin.

850's maybe for romance, and more, much more for a distinct arabic language : maybe 1100 if particularly isolated.