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Old June 21st, 2012, 05:49 AM
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Did the Zulus stand a chance?

Is there any likely way that the the outcome of the Anglo-Zulu war could have ended in a Zulu victory? Perhaps not a decisive one but one at least similar to the Red River Rebellion that ends with the British making a treaty meeting the Zulus desires.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 06:01 AM
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Is there any likely way that the the outcome of the Anglo-Zulu war could have ended in a Zulu victory? Perhaps not a decisive one but one at least similar to the Red River Rebellion that ends with the British making a treaty meeting the Zulus desires.
Only if the British have something better to do, in which case there's probably not an Anglo-Zulu war to begin with.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 07:09 AM
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I don't believe so.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 10:46 AM
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Not with the Gatling / Maxim guns the British had.
It is iron age technology against industrial age, no hope unless they were supported by another indrustial country.

1879 - may be Prussia / Russia?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 11:33 AM
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Not with the Gatling / Maxim guns the British had.
It is iron age technology against industrial age, no hope unless they were supported by another indrustial country.

1879 - may be Prussia / Russia?
How could they go about doing that?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 11:42 AM
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The Zulus had little chance of victory. By the way Elfwine the British had another magor colonial conflict starting at the sam time, the Second Afghan War of 1879 - 1881. Yet the British, despite a couple of seriious defeats at Isandwalna and, less well known, at Kambula, were still able to crush the Zulus through superior firepower.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 12:06 PM
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How could they go about doing that?
I have no real idea, except by working with the Boers (which would be ironic to say the least). The Prussians supplied the Boers with guns for the Boer wars, it MAY be possible for the Prussians to do the same to the Zulu's?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 04:47 PM
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Not with the Gatling / Maxim guns the British had.
It is iron age technology against industrial age, no hope unless they were supported by another indrustial country.

1879 - may be Prussia / Russia?
The Boers were supported by the Germans - it still wasn't enough to save them.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 05:00 PM
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The Boers were supported by the Germans - it still wasn't enough to save them.
Mostly moral support, no? I don't recall anything about them shipping loads of weapons to the Boers...

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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:14 PM
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The Boers were supported by the Germans - it still wasn't enough to save them.
The Boers lost the war (and took massive civilian casulaties etc.) but I would argue they won the peace, hence South Africa developing the way it did.

This was made possible by the Prussians supplying the arms and ammo that defeated the Brits.
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