Europe Post 1918

[chris N]

This is a different version of Europe with a peace being achieved before the entry of the US into the war. Germany has lost its lands in the West to France as the price for a peace. There is rumbling in Germany as very few are happy with the leadership of the Kaiser during the war. German victory in the East has seen a break up of the Russian Empire and the creation of a lot of new nations. The Soviets seem to have gained the upper hand in the ongoing Civil war with the Whites.
The Emperor Karl has managed to get a peace agreement that did not prevent all of the empire from falling apart. He has held the Germans, Czechs and the Slovenians together but the Hungarians have pulled away. Karl is sure that they will come back as he fears this will just trigger another war between Hungary and Romania. There are also Red Forces at work in Hungary.
The Ukraine has manage to survive although many wonder if it will stay a monarchy or become a Republic. Poland had seized part of Russia but has been unable to gain an outlet to the Sea. The British refused to prolong the war any longer than they had to and even France was too war weary to want to fight any longer.
In Greece the forces pushing for Greater Greece have managed to capture European Turkey and want to invade Asia Minor. But already word is coming of a new Turkish leader that is pulling together the collapsing Ottoman Empire Part that was Turkey.
Britain and France have shared the spoils of the Ottoman Empire.

[chris N]

For Many th News that was printed in the papers all over the world that the "War to End All Wars" was over was greeted with great happiness. But for millions that joy would never be felt or heard. Some wonder what did we all fight about. The returning BEF came home to find that while they had been fighting in France there had been a war in Ireland. The Irish War of Independence had started on Easter Sunday in 1916 and had been going on ever since.. Mistakes had been made on both sides but the British people were determined to fight no more war and so a peace treaty was to come about.
In Germany there had been a naval revolt among some of the Kaisers sailors and the Army had held to restore order. There had been some battles instreets between forces of the left and those of the right. For a brief period Germany was a Republic before the forces of the Right moved and restored the Monarchy. The Crown Prince of Bavaria had restored order in his native Bavaria ad had assumed leadership in bringing peace and order to the country. The Kaiser had fled to the Netherlands and there was little desire to see him of his son put back on the Throne.
To the East the Red Army was still overcoming the Whites for the battle to control Russia.
Georgia had proclaimed Independence as had Armenia. The Armenians and the Turks were fighting and the Greeks had also entered the War by invading Asia Minor. There were cries of a Greater Greece.
In Italy the Italians were also stiring. Italy had suffered a Major defeat in 1917 and it had knocked it out of the War and lead to the collapse of the pro-war government. The Italians had designs on Asia Minor and they also had claims on parts of Greater Serbia.
The Hapsburgs had a hold on Poland as one of their Archdukes was its King. Indeed it was this king who was preventing the Polish Army from controlling the country. The King pointed that the threat to the country from the East was real and as soon as the soviets were in firm control they would turn their attention to the West and to the Lands that had broken away.
Meanwhile on the other side of the Atlantic. The Wilson Administration was on shaky grounds. President Wilson had sent the US Army into Mexico to stop the Raids by bandits into the US. It had been ging on for the past 2 years..
Across the Pacific China was in the throws of Revolution as the forces in that nation struggled to unite the country and to overthrow foreign control. The new Nationalist were fighting to overthrow the warlords and already it was clear that Japan was casting Hungry eyes on China.
Indeed it was only US threats latter joined by the British and french that had forced japan to withdraw its list of demands first imposed on China in 1916.
In Hungary the Communist government was finally overthrown but there was a war with Romania to be fought. Finally Britain and France pressured both sides to end it

[chris N]

1919 -1920 With the exception of fighting in Asia Minor and in Russia things began to settle down in Europe. In Poland the King finally convinced the Army that it should be preparing for a possible war with Russia rather than attempting to control the government.
The Ukrainian Army staged a coup in the Capital of Kiev and installed their commander, who happen to be the son of the Polish King.

[abc123]

I'm pretty sure that independant Ireland would be impossible ITTL, something like French attitude towards Algeria after the loss in WW2.

[chris N]

Ireland was granted its independence by the British by the early 1920's. The British public could not stand another war and the British were not winning the Black and the Tan struggle so it is possible. The only thing that I have change is Ireland is united. Thus no Northern Ireland enclave.

This whole timeline is a different take on Europe after the Peace Talks and has quite a few differences to start off with.

[chris N]

Germany: Crown Prince Rupprecht of Bavaria and seemingly emerged as the man of the hour. He had yet to sieze the Imperial Crown but he had managed to emerge as one of the few people who could unite the military and the Nation. As a result Politicians and the Military began to defer to him and he was asked to become head of the Regency Council. Unlike Crown Prince Wilhelm he was popular within the Army and had had an ability to get things done.. The Bavarian did not care for Ludendorf finding him to be arrogant and somewhat of a fanatic. While he got along with Hindenburg, who was still revered by the nation he did not believe that the man was suited to running either the Army or the Nation.
Below the Man of the Hour the Bavarian Crown Prince.

[pike]

I like the idea of a greater Greece of the 20 century has always been a great intrest of mine.

[Ulster]

Originally Posted by chris N

Ireland was granted its independence by the British by the early 1920's. The British public could not stand another war and the British were not winning the Black and the Tan struggle so it is possible. The only thing that I have change is Ireland is united. Thus no Northern Ireland enclave.

You can't simply butterfly that away with "Thus no Northern Ireland". Immediately before World War I there were tens of thousands of men drilling in Ulster ready to fight the British if they were made subject to a Dublin Parliament. If they're chucked into an independent Irish Republic for no apparant reason then it is going to be an unbelieveably bloody conflict, especially considering the sectarian nature the OTL Anglo-Irish War/Irish War of Independence sometimes took (for example, how quickly Ireland's long-standing Protestant population dropped to just 3% of the whole as Protestants were either killed or forced to emmigrate to the North or Britain). More to the point the British wouldn't simply throw Northern Ireland away. The pre-war Conservatives had made the whole Ulster Unionist "Ulster will Fight and Ulster will he right!" thing one of the biggest political issues of the day. It would not do well for them if they just let Ulster, whether in four, six or nine county form, slip away without fighting for it.

I do find it rather irritating when people just paintbucket Ireland green instead of researching

[abc123]

Originally Posted by chris N

Ireland was granted its independence by the British by the early 1920's. The British public could not stand another war and the British were not winning the Black and the Tan struggle so it is possible. The only thing that I have change is Ireland is united. Thus no Northern Ireland enclave.

This whole timeline is a different take on Europe after the Peace Talks and has quite a few differences to start off with.

Well, "war" in Ireland was not quite like war in Northern France. There were guerilla attacks and assasinations by IRA, but with stronger police-military comittment by the British ( and with naval blocade of Ireland by RN ) UK could suceed in implementing OTL Goverment of Ireland Act 1920.

The Act divided Ireland into two territories, Southern Ireland and Northern Ireland, each intended to be self-governing, except in areas specifically reserved to the Parliament of the United Kingdom: chief amongst these were matters relating to the Crown, to defence, foreign affairs, international trade, and currency.

[Goldwater64]

Interesting map. What are those gray islands around Denmark and the Baltic Sea?

[chris N]

Here is a better Map of the area.

[chris N]

Before anyone mentions it I know that I mispelled the Name of the Austro-Czech-Slovenian- Croatian Union. Thats what happens when trying to do two things at the same time. One makes Mistakes. It will be corrected if I use the map again.
Germany: As the vote on who would be the next Kaiser a public opinion poll showed strong support for Rupprecht with 70% and Louis Frederick got 20.
The current Regent was being pushed into taking the job. He however had the support of his family and had good relations with the British Royal family.

[abc123]

Originally Posted by chris N

Before anyone mentions it I know that I mispelled the Name of the Austro-Czech-Slovenian- Croatian Union. .

I'm not so sure that Slovenians would be in that union/Monarchy.
After all, they were allways part of Austria, so I really don't see that they are recognised as equall part of Union, so IMO it should be only Austro-Czech-Croatian Union/Monarchy.

[chris N]

Okay, It is now Officially the Austro-Czech-Croatian Union.

Fall of 1924: The recent vote by the German people has seen the first non-Hollenzollern to hold the office and the first Catholic Emperor since the Holly Roman Empire. Rupprecht won with 72% of the vote.