Different alliances in WWI with a 1914 PoD

[My Username is Inigo Montoya]

What I am asking here is, with no attempt on Franz-Ferdinand's life and assuming there's no subsequent casus belli that didn't happen IOTL for a few years (say, till 1917), what alternate alliances might develop and be activated when WWI eventually breaks out.
Of course, the more different from OTL, the better

[Henriksson]

There's also of course the slim possibility that the tangled mess is untangled and the Great War is avoided.

[Grey Wolf]

Albertini records German efforts to work towards a Greco-Ottoman rapprochement

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Grey Wolf

[My Username is Inigo Montoya]

Originally Posted by Grey Wolf

Albertini records German efforts to work towards a Greco-Ottoman rapprochement

Interesting... (in the Chinese sense of course)
No one else?

[Grey Wolf]

Originally Posted by JaneStillman

Interesting... (in the Chinese sense of course)
No one else?

Again from Albertini, he looked at the reactions to the outbreak of war in both Montenegro and Sweden. Given a different war, a different cassus belli etc, decisions in those states could have been very different

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Grey Wolf

[HeavyWeaponsGuy]

Italians are off-hand the best chance for someone to flip sides in the war with some proper promises of territorial gains, perhaps Corsica, Nice, Malta, and portions of Algeria for starters. The choice bits will of course go to the Germans.

[Snake Featherston]

There's possibilities of different alliances in the OTL WWI with the OTL POD: if the Ottomans decide on neutrality for a time and then later throw in with the Allies ala Greece, or if Italy decides to honor its titular alliance with the CPs and gnaws at the ankle of France like a toothless bulldog.....

[Grey Wolf]

Rumania and Bulgaria could have gone either way at various times. Rumania even had a secret treaty with Austria. Bulgaria was after whatever served them best.

Of course the Serbs also believed that the Greeks betrayed them by not honouring their alliance, so Greece could have gone fully on their side, or flipping over the coin at a different time could have gone fully German

Then there's Spain to consider where essentially the same arguments were being played out

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Grey Wolf

[historyfool]

If Germany realizes during the additional years that it can´t keep up with the British Empire on sea while staying ahead of France and Russia on land the relations with the Empire might get considerably better. If additionally the British colonial conflicts with France reappear or the Entente gains considerable strength compared to the Central Powers it might not only become a neutral but even join the German camp.
Another possible change would be a failure to renegotiate the Austria-Hungarian Ausgleich. This difficult task had iotl been postponed due to the Great war.

[Peg Leg Pom]

The two that spring to mind are Italy and the Ottomens.

IF Churchill dosnt impound the Turkish Battleships then they might refuse the German Cobene sanctuary and remain neutral.

Italy was bound by treaty to the Central Powers but renaged by first stayind neutral and then joining the Allies.

[Leistungsfähiger Amerikan]

Something I feel is overlooked frequently on this board is how angry the US was over British maritime wartime policy---sieving neutral ships and hauling them into ports, declaring huge areas a "war zone", etc. Now Anglo-American relations were at their highpoint in 1914, but give a few extra years for them to go south and then similar or worse British maritime policy, and I do believe that the USA could have been involved in the war "associated" with the central powers in a ATL. Now before people jump on me, I do also think it is very unlikely that the British would be so stupid to adopt a policy and stick with it in the face of a war with the US, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

[David S Poepoe]

Originally Posted by Peg Leg Pom

The two that spring to mind are Italy and the Ottomens.

IF Churchill dosnt impound the Turkish Battleships then they might refuse the German Cobene sanctuary and remain neutral.

Italy was bound by treaty to the Central Powers but renaged by first stayind neutral and then joining the Allies.

The seizure of the two Turkish battleships had nothing to do with the Turks entering the war.

[1337indahouse]

Originally Posted by historyfool

Another possible change would be a failure to renegotiate the Austria-Hungarian Ausgleich. This difficult task had iotl been postponed due to the Great war.

I was going to say that. How would you all envison an alternate war breaking out due to A-H imploding over that? I had the idea of the south slavs rebelling against A-H due to not being included, Czechs also do so, Austria and Hungary tries to suppress it, Germany backs up Austrria & Russia the Czechs, Poles and South Slavs and so on so on.....

[historyfool]

Originally Posted by 1337indahouse

I was going to say that. How would you all envison an alternate war breaking out due to A-H imploding over that? I had the idea of the south slavs rebelling against A-H due to not being included, Czechs also do so, Austria and Hungary tries to suppress it, Germany backs up Austrria & Russia the Czechs, Poles and South Slavs and so on so on.....

There are dozens of possible scenarios for a breaking up of AH.
Just one example: It may be that Austria doesn´t back up Hungary and is willing to grant its (fewer) minorities additional rights. In turn Hungary dissolves the personal union. The Croats probably side with the Austrians if they aren´t granted special rights by their Hungarian overlords and if that happens it will ignite uprisings of other minorities in the Hungarian part. Once the breakup is reality Serbia and Romania might try to grab what they can. But what happens with the great powers? Germany would probably support Austria to save as much of their empire as possible. Russia supports its Serbian and Romanian Allies and try to grab some part of Hungary as well. But would the Germans and Russians really be allied because they are both against Hungary despite their very different war goals? Furthermore a Russian comeback on the Balkans would be unwelcome to the Ottomans and most likely Britain as well and they might oppose Russia. Italy has its main interests in the Austrian part of the dissolving empire making it another possible supporter of Hungary. Which leaves in Europe France which has only bad choices, but won´t like staying out. What a mess. Germany and an Austrian led confederation of nationalities in the western part of the former empire against Hungary and perhaps Croatia who fight at the same time against Russias pan slavic coalition which won´t be welcome to the German coalition and Britain, Italy, France and the Ottomans might fight both coalitions, just the Russian one, just the German one, support one or stay totally out. Every decision allows dozens of radically different wars, from a normal civil war inside AH to even more chaotic wars than the one above.