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December 3rd, 2011, 04:01 AM
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The Walker-Squier-Economaki List of Alternative Motorsports Champs
We get alternative lists of Prime Ministers and Presidents...
Why not F1 World Champs too...Cue "The Chain"  1950 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Alfa Romeo 1951 Jose Frolian Gonzalez (ARG) Alfa Romeo 1952 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari 1953 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari 1954 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes 1955 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari (1) 1956 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes 1957 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes 1958 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari 1959 Sterling Moss (GBR) Walker Cooper-Climax (2) 1960 Jack Brabham (AUS) Walker Cooper-Climax 1961 Jack Brabham (AUS) Walker Cooper-Climax 1962 Dan Gurney (USA) Ferrari (3) 1963 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus 1964 Dan Gurney (USA) Ferrari 1965 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus 1966 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus 1967 Dan Gurney (USA) AAR Eagle-Shelby 1968 Graham Hill (GBR) Lotus-Ford 1969 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus-Ford 1970 Jacky Ickx (BEL) Ferrari 1971 Jackie Stewart (SCT) Tyrrell-Ford 1972 Jackie Stewart (SCT) Tyrrell-Ford 1973 Jackie Stewart (SCT) Tyrrell-Ford 1974 Francois Cevert (FRA) Tyrrell-Ford 1975 James Hunt (GBR) Hesketh BRM 1976 Niki Lauda (AUT) Ferrari 1977 A.J. Foyt Lotus-Ford (USA) (4) 1978 Mario Andretti (USA) Lotus-Ford 1979 Lella Lombardi (ITA) Hesketh BRM (5) 1980 FISA Jean-Pierre Jabouille (FRA) Renault FOCA Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) Brabham-Ford (6) 1981 FISA Francois Cevert (FRA) Renault FOCA Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-Ford (7) 1982 FISA Gilles Villeneuve (CAN) Ferrari FOCA Tiff Needell (GBR) Tyrrell Project Four-Ford (8) 1983 Gilles Villenueve (CAN) Ferrari (9) 1984 Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-TAG Porsche 1985 Keke Rosberg (FIN) Tyrrell Project Four- Honda 1986 Elio De Angelis (ITA) Brabham-TAG Porsche 1987 Nigel Mansell (GBR) Tyrrell Project Four Honda 1988 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Brabham-TAG Porsche (10) 1989 Stefan Bellof (GER) Brabham-TAG Porsche (11) 1990 Alain Prost (FRA) Ferrari 1991 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Brabham-TAG Porsche 1992 Nigel Mansell (GBR) Williams-Honda 1993 Uyko Katayama (JPN) Williams-Honda (12) 1994 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Williams-Honda 1995 Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Mercedes 1996 Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Mercedes 1997 Jeff Gordon (USA) Stewart/Tyrrell-Ford (13) 1998 Perry McCarthy (GBR) Jordan-Mercedes (14) 1999 Mika Hakkinen (FIN) Prost EuroFrance-Renault 2000 Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Mercedes 2001 Alex Zanardi (ITA) Ferrari (15) 2002 Jeff Gordon (USA) Stewart/Tyrrell-Ford 2003 Alex Zanardi (ITA) Ferrari 2004 Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) Prodrive Lotus-Proton (16) 2005 Alex Zanardi (ITA) Ferrari 2006 Fernando Alonso (ESP) Prost EuroFrance-Renault 2007 Fernando Alonso (ESP) Prost EuroFrance-Renault 2008 Jenson Button (GBR) Jordan-Mercedes 2009 Lewis Hamilton (GBR) Stewart/Tyrrell-Ford 2010 Mark Webber (AUS) Brock HDT-Holden (17) 2011 Sebastian Vettel (GER) Jordan-Mercedes (18) 2012 -- It begins in Mandelaburg  (19)(1) Ascari would live well into his 80s, became a beloved Grand Prix commentator for RAI Italia much like Murray Walker in OTL (2) Sterling Moss is one of only three men who has won the Formula 1 Championship and the Indianapolis 500 in the same year. Joining Jim Clark (65) and A.J. Foyt (77). Moss, at age 92, is still alive and well and get still racing! Moss won a round in the Thermex Historic Touring Car Championship in the 11 and had 4 other podium finishes. He plans to contest the year and hes will test to get a competition license for the Spa and Silverstone 24-hour events. (3) Dan Gurney was the first American World Champion as a driver ('62) and the first American World Champion as a team principal and constructor ('67). The Gurney name is legendary not only in Motorsport, but in the automotive industry. After retiring from active competition in 1971, Gurney's All-American Racers became an engineering consulting firm and a technology investment firm that morphed into the powerful multibillion-dollar Gurney Group by 1981. Gurney is best known in business for saving the British car industry with his acquisitions of British Motor Corporation in 1982, and today the Gurney Austin Rover Motors is well-known for it's line of exciting performance passenger cars that are also very practical and forward thinking. Gurney Austin Rover is also hotly competitive in the World Rally Championship led by the powerhouse M-Sport Stobart team and reigning World Champion Matthew Wilson. Gurney is also known for his maverick independent-libertarian candidacy for President of the United States in 1992. "DAN GURNEY FOR PRESIDENT " bumper stickers were on bumpers of sports cars across America and Gurney's square jawed bluntness and smarts won 26% of the popular vote and carried 4 states (California, Indiana, Kentucky and North Carolina). He didn't win, but he made an impression. (4) A.J. Foyt was brought into Lotus along with Mario Andretti to form Colin Chapmans American Dream Team which developed the groundbreaking Lotus 78 and Lotus 79. (5) The Tigress of Turin is the first woman to win a Grand Prix (she did that in 75), and 1979 she shocked everybody with 3 wins in a wild championship season that came down to the final race. She is one of six women who has won a Formula 1 Grand Prix. Other winners: Divina Gallica (81), Michele Mouton (85), Victoria Butler-Henderson (95), Vanina Ickx (01), Katherine Legge (10), it is expected that Danica Patrick will join this list as she joins Lewis Hamilton at Stewart/Tyrrell in 2012. (6) Due to an impasse on a number of issue Federation du Sport Automobile and Formula One Constructors Association run separate Formula 1 seasons (7) Bernie and Jean-Marie couldn't work out their differences (8) "You'll sooner see Margaret Thatcher in her bed riding Arthur Scargill than seeing a united Grand Prix Championship" -- James Hunt during a BBC "Grand Prix" broacast, 1982. "James...I don't even want to think about that," Murray Walker, 1982. (9) PEACE IS IN OUR TIME! The 1983 Eccelstone-Balestre Agreement ends the FISA-FOCA War opening to door to a great 1983 season and Gilles Villenueve winning a unified title. Under the terms of the agreement, the 1980, 1981 and 1982 winners of both series are consider official World Drivers Champions in the record books. Oh and Gilles Villenueve. Lives back in Bethierville, Quebec Canada. He's a agent to a number of drivers, including his son Jacques, who is a 2-time Indianapolis 500 winner and an 11-time Grand Prix winner. Villenueve is also president of Speedway Canada Ltd, which is the marketing and organizing arm of the Grand Prix of Canada in addition to administering the site of the Grand Prix of Canada, Circuit Rene Lesvesque in Montreal. (10) The last turbo season. (11) The first season under the 1989 Eccelstone-Balestre Agreement calling for a 3.5 liter naturally-aspirated engine formula allowing Engines up to 12 cylinders. Porsches innovative W-12 was formidable as Bellof nipped Senna to win the championship and the left the team cited Sennas constant polickticking and complaining. (12) Taking the seat for a vacated Nigel Mansell, who left for IndyCar after contentious contract dispute, Kamikaze Uyko has a 6-win dream season to be the first Japanese World Champion. (13) The 26-year old American was the first World Champ from the USA since 78, and would leave F1 after the 2009 season as the winningest American driver in Formula 1 history. Gordon is semiretired from racing (he still competes at Indianapolis, Daytona and LeMans), a happy husband to his actress wife Keeley Hawes-Gordon, and a father of two. Next year, you'll hear him giving his commentary as part of the BBC's broadcast team for the F1 coverage in 2012 and Americans will get to see him, too! Formula One Administration Chairman Damon Hill announced this week that BBC America has been awarded the U.S. broadcast rights for Formula for the next four years. Oh by the way...Where is Damon? Graham's son is considered "The greatest man on 2 wheels, PERIOD". Hill is a 16-time motorcycle world champion, and led the transition into the MotoGP format. Hill was tapped to replace Bernie Eccelstone as chairman of the FOA after Eccelstone was indicted on allegations of securities fraud. (14) He was Flat Out. He wasnt Flat Broke..and yes, he is the Stig on ITTLs version of Top Gear (15) Alex Zanardi has both his legs, and hes starting his own F1 team in 2012. Scuderia Zanardi Rapide, with engines provided by Honda. His team drivers will be veteran Giancarlo Fischiella and GP2 Champion and former Indy 500 winner Marco Andretti. (16) Juan Pablo Montoya shocked everyone with the Malaysian-British David Richards Prodrive teams miracle debut. (17) Taking advantage of some loopholes in the aerodynamics rules, Mark Webber and Peter Brock caught all of Formula 1 with their collective pants down like Braun GP did OTL. (18) A dominant 10 win season as Vettel handed Eddie Jordan his sixth driver's title and an 8th Constructors Championship. (19) The circus begins next march at New Kylami International Speedway, Mandelaburg, Republic of South Africa.
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December 3rd, 2011, 06:02 AM
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Well, this is a very interesting list indeed...... Not that think its a bad one.
I don't disagree with any of them up to Dan Gurney. Gurney with Ferrari is a possibility, but I don't know if Gurney and Ferrari could live with each other long enough to win it all, especially twice. It is possible, though. Gurney and Carroll Shelby were Goodyear's point-men with their quest to beat Firestone, and when Ford signed on the rest was history. Cevert winning the title is good, though this means that Fittipaldi does not hold a 30-year record for the youngest champ. (It took Alonso to beat it.) Lella Lombardi I don't think is honestly talented enough to be a world champ, especially up against the likes of Gilles Villeneuve, Jody Sckehter, Alan Jones, Mario Andretti, Niki Lauda, Nelson Piquet, Ronnie Peterson, James Hunt, Clay Regazzoni, Rene Arnoux and in this universe, A.J. Foyt and probably Francois Cevert. That's rather a lot more than Miss Lombardi can handle, unless her car is dominantly good (as Mario and Foyt were in the '77 and '78 seasons) and her teammate sucks. I'd regard that as very unlikely. Good move with the split series being unified, though it is going to make a bunch of unhappy event promoters, because two separate series into one means events will almost certainly be left out. The 1980 season was 14 rounds, and with the addiction of the races for the separate FOCA-FISA seasons, you'll have 22 rounds at least between the two, and I doubt you can merge that many. Gilles Villeneuve and Stefan Bellof as champs is something that should have been but never was. There hasn't been and I doubt ever will be again two guys like those two, who both had natural talent in incredible quantities and the balls to use it. Both of them would be loved by guys like AJ Foyt, because they just would not give up, ever, no matter the odds and no matter the problems. Ask Derek Bell about Bellof and the guy tears up, because the two of them were teammates with very fond memories of one another, and Bellof's drive in the final World Sportscar Championship race at the old Nurburgring in 1983 is still something that sportscar nuts have never forgotten. Ukyo Katayama and Jeff Gordon as world champions? Holy s***: - Ukyo's a better bet to be world champ than Lombardi, as while Ukyo not exactly the world's greatest driving talent, he was near the top, and he'd be one hell of a change for the better after Mansell takes off - Mansell was an arrogant prick his whole career, whereas Katayama might have been the most humble guy to take the wheel of an F1 car in modern times. His cancer in his back is gonna leave him out for a fair bit of 1995, but if Williams is that good (and OTL, they were close to it) then I can see him as world champ. - Jeff Gordon, well, he always had the talent to be a world champion. This would have to assume he has more road racing experience, or perhaps he goes into Indycars and does what Villeneuve did - kick ass in 1994-95, run F1 in '96, world champ in his sophomore year. That's a great end for Zanardi, though I suspect by 2012 he'd want to retire and live life more slowly. He was offered a seat back in Champ Car repeatedly, and was offered it again after the Champ Car-IRL merger - him and Jimmy Vasser, who is part owner of KV Racing Technology, are great friends. He didn't take it, of course. (I wish he'd had. The first time a guy on one leg wins an Indycar race it'll make headlines around the world.) Mandelaburg? Sorry man, it'll still be Johannesburg. I'm pretty sure Nelson Mandela would NOT want South Africa's largest city named after him. He's much too humble for that.
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December 3rd, 2011, 07:20 AM
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December 3rd, 2011, 08:33 AM
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What, no Keke Rosberg?
I am disappointed in you. Seriously though, if there was no championship for Rosberg, who knows what butterflies that would have with Hδkkinen's career. Maybe he would have gone to rally instead - IOTL he followed pretty closely in Rosberg's footsteps. The same applies to the younger Finnish drivers, certainly.
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December 3rd, 2011, 10:48 AM
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I like Ukyo Katayama winning one lol. One of my friends at school was a huge fan of his lol.
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December 3rd, 2011, 11:12 AM
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After the 1986 season. Rosberg citing a distaste for the F1 scene, left Tyrrell in Formula 1 for a wild diversion in the United States. Rosberg would drive in the NASCAR Winston Cup Series for stock car legend Bud Moore. In six season in NASCAR, Rosberg would win 15 races, including a stirring drive on Labor Day 1990 to win the crown jewel Southern 500. Today, Keke Rosberg is CEO of Suomi Sports Management and is considered one of the foremost sports agents in the European Union. His clients include 1999 Formula 1 and 2003 World Rally Champion Mika Hakkinen, Former World Rally Champion J.J. Lehto, and 1999 IndyCar Champion Mika Salo. His son Nico Rosberg drives in Formula 1, signing a contract to drive for the newly formed Fashionista Formula 1 Team.
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December 3rd, 2011, 01:25 PM
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My Formula 1 List: Where are they now?
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He left Tyrrell in 1977 to help Renault begin their Formula 1 Turbo programme. During that time, Cevert picked up where Stewart left off as a outspoken voice among the drivers in matters of safety, and driver contracts. Cevert, as President of the F-1 Pilots Guild, authored and pushed through the Drivers Rights Provisions that are a key piece of the 1983 Eccelstone-Balestre agreement and are part of part of every binding formula since. Cevert also led the successful ban on South African participation in the World Championship. Ironically, after the ban was lifted in 1994, Cevert became a member of the board of directors of the New Kylami International Circuit. Cevert today is a successful technologies financier through his firm Techniques Cevert. He is on the corporate board of Elf Aquitaine and is a major behind-the-scenes player in French politics. Many observers think that Cevert's support of Segolene Royal could finally elevate her into the French Presidency in the elections in 2012. Quote:
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Lombardi has the F1 records for most starts by a female driver and most wins by a female driver (9 career victories) She is best known on the track for an epic comeback win in the 1979 Italian Grand Prix that powered her championship in a year where 7 drivers had a chance to win the championship going into the final race. She left formula 1 in 1984, but continued driving sports cars. Race fans will long remember the hot pink and silver Porsche 962 campaigned by Lombardi along with Lyn St. James and Divina Gallica at the 1988 24 hours LeMans, and the loud cheers when the car led the race for 2 hours and ended up finishing third behind the Silk Cut Jaguars. When not in Sportscars, she was an activist and an elected member of Italy's Parliament. In 1997 she was drafted by to run by the Women's Social Democratic Forum of Italy, and won a seat. Her Legislative career is best remembered for a 2007 incident when she slapped Italian PM Silvio Burlesconi because he called her the "that unattractive manly bitch from Turin" during PM's questions. Her actions got her censured in the parliament, but applauded by women throughout Italy. Quote:
He is one of the most popular professors at the university. His classes attract a great deal of students partly for he who is today, as one of the most influencial and controversial voices in Roman Catholicism, and partly for who he was as a brilliant, 3-time Formula 1 Champion, and 2-time Indianapolis 500 winner. Senna began his studies after the 1991 Formula 1 season. After winning the 1994 F1 title. He took two years off from racing to attend PUC-SP where he threw himself into his education. After earning a degree in theology in 1996, he decided to return to racing. In 1997, he did what he called his "Racing For A Better World", where he did a slate of events worldwide and gave all his winning to charities in Brazil and throughout the world. Those charities got a nice haul in May 1997. Senna, driving for Fittipaldi Racing Brazil, dominated the Month of May and won the Indianapolis 500 for the first time. He won it again in 2001, the year he left active competition for good and embarked on his new career as a academic and a writer. Senna is often compared to Dr. Cornell West for his outspoken, brash nature and a popularity that transcends many strata of society. In his native Sao Paulo he is loved by the common people, and makes politicians on all sides of the political fence cringe and keeps the Church leadership on their toes. Quote:
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December 3rd, 2011, 02:01 PM
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More Where Are They Now: Uyko Katayama
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The story in Formula 1 in 1992 was the acrimony between Frank Williams and Nigel Mansell over Mansell's contract for 1993 and 1994. Mansell accused Williams and Honda of trying to force him out, so they can make a run gaining the services of Michael Schumacher, the subject of a fierce bidding war among F1's top teams. Mansell left after winning the championship, but Schumacher stayed loyal to Mercedes, who joined forces with Eddie Jordan. Running of time and needing a driver to fill the seat, Frank Williams took an educated gamble based on what he saw from a plucky midfielder from Japan in 1992. Uyko Katayama, driving for Footwork Arrows along side fellow Japanese Aguri Suzuki, drove beyond the limits of a backfield car to score 27 points and podium twice, including a bonzai drive in Hungary that nearly gave the team a win. His performance impressed Williams enough to make him the #2 driver along side Jean Alesi for 1993, but Katayama grabbed the opportunity and outshined his teammate. He had six wins in '93. San Marino, France, Britain, Germany, Japan and Australia, the last two wins in the final races of the year completing a comeback to beat both Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost. In 1994, Katayama had 4 more wins and finished second in the championship to teammate Ayrton Senna, who said "Katayama is the best teammate I've ever had and man with more heart in the car than I could ever begin to have." Katayama drove most of the season intense pain. Near the end of the season, it was found out that he was diagonosed with cancer. Doctor told him he'd recover but never race again. It was three years of torturous treatment and training, but Kamikaze Uyko did return to a cockpit. In 1997, he got a special gift from a former teammate who respected him a great deal. Ayrton Senna pushed Emerson Fittipaldi to enter a third car in the Indianapolis 500 for Katayama. On bump day, Katayama put up a stirring drive to make the field, starting 31st. On race day Katayama drove a fast, clean race to a 5th place finish. He would have been rookie of the year, if Senna hadn't have won the race in his first 500 start. Katayama did one more season in Formula 1. In 1999, he drove for Team DOME-Mugen Japan as a favor to former teammate/team principal Aguri Suzuki. Katayama again put up a stirring season, scoring 16 points, and a podium finish with a 3rd in Japan. After the season, Katayama hung up the helmet for good, and now is a racing commentator for Fuji TV. A major motion picture on Katayama's career championship and comeback is in the works. The screenplay was written by Ken Takakura and filming is expected to start in summer 2012.
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December 3rd, 2011, 02:32 PM
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Credit where credit is due, John Surtees won the title in 1964 over Gurney. Surtees was the only man to take world championship titles on two and four wheels. Mike Hailwood and Giocomo Agostini tried but failed. John crashed at Mosport in 1965 in a Lola T70 Chev. I was there.
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December 3rd, 2011, 02:46 PM
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Leo, I think we can do that...
1950 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Alfa Romeo 1951 Jose Frolian Gonzalez (ARG) Alfa Romeo 1952 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari 1953 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari 1954 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes 1955 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari (1) 1956 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes 1957 Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) Mercedes 1958 Alberto Ascari (ITA) Ferrari 1959 Sterling Moss (GBR) Walker Cooper-Climax (2) 1960 Jack Brabham (AUS) Walker Cooper-Climax 1961 Jack Brabham (AUS) Walker Cooper-Climax 1962 Dan Gurney (USA) Ferrari (3) 1963 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus 1964 John Surtees (GBR) Ferrari (20) 1965 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus 1966 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus 1967 Dan Gurney (USA) AAR Eagle-Shelby 1968 Graham Hill (GBR) Lotus-Ford 1969 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus-Ford 1970 Jacky Ickx (BEL) Ferrari 1971 Jackie Stewart (SCT) Tyrrell-Ford 1972 Jackie Stewart (SCT) Tyrrell-Ford 1973 Jackie Stewart (SCT) Tyrrell-Ford 1974 Francois Cevert (FRA) Tyrrell-Ford 1975 James Hunt (GBR) Hesketh BRM 1976 Niki Lauda (AUT) Ferrari 1977 A.J. Foyt Lotus-Ford (USA) (4) 1978 Mario Andretti (USA) Lotus-Ford 1979 Lella Lombardi (ITA) Hesketh BRM (5) 1980 FISA Jean-Pierre Jabouille (FRA) Renault FOCA Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) Brabham-Ford (6) 1981 FISA Francois Cevert (FRA) Renault FOCA Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-Ford (7) 1982 FISA Gilles Villeneuve (CAN) Ferrari FOCA Tiff Needell (GBR) Tyrrell Project Four-Ford (8) 1983 Gilles Villenueve (CAN) Ferrari (9) 1984 Nelson Piquet (BRA) Brabham-TAG Porsche 1985 Keke Rosberg (FIN) Tyrrell Project Four- Honda 1986 Elio De Angelis (ITA) Brabham-TAG Porsche 1987 Nigel Mansell (GBR) Tyrrell Project Four Honda 1988 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Brabham-TAG Porsche (10) 1989 Stefan Bellof (GER) Brabham-TAG Porsche (11) 1990 Alain Prost (FRA) Ferrari 1991 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Brabham-TAG Porsche 1992 Nigel Mansell (GBR) Williams-Honda 1993 Uyko Katayama (JPN) Williams-Honda (12) 1994 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Williams-Honda 1995 Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Mercedes 1996 Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Mercedes 1997 Jeff Gordon (USA) Stewart/Tyrrell-Ford (13) 1998 Perry McCarthy (GBR) Jordan-Mercedes (14) 1999 Mika Hakkinen (FIN) Prost EuroFrance-Renault 2000 Michael Schumacher (GER) Jordan-Mercedes 2001 Alex Zanardi (ITA) Ferrari (15) 2002 Jeff Gordon (USA) Stewart/Tyrrell-Ford 2003 Alex Zanardi (ITA) Ferrari 2004 Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) Prodrive Lotus-Proton (16) 2005 Alex Zanardi (ITA) Ferrari 2006 Fernando Alonso (ESP) Prost EuroFrance-Renault 2007 Fernando Alonso (ESP) Prost EuroFrance-Renault 2008 Jenson Button (GBR) Jordan-Mercedes 2009 Lewis Hamilton (GBR) Stewart/Tyrrell-Ford 2010 Mark Webber (AUS) Brock HDT-Holden (17) 2011 Sebastian Vettel (GER) Jordan-Mercedes (18) 2012 -- It begins at New Kylami (19)(1) Ascari would live well into his 80s, became a beloved Grand Prix commentator for RAI Italia much like Murray Walker in OTL (2) Sterling Moss is one of only three men who has won the Formula 1 Championship and the Indianapolis 500 in the same year. Joining Jim Clark (65) and A.J. Foyt (77). Moss, at age 92, is still alive and well and get still racing! Moss won a round in the Thermex Historic Touring Car Championship in the 11 and had 4 other podium finishes. He plans to contest the year and hes will test to get a competition license for the Spa and Silverstone 24-hour events. (3) Dan Gurney was the first American World Champion as a driver ('62) and the first American World Champion as a team principal and constructor ('67). The Gurney name is legendary not only in Motorsport, but in the automotive industry. After retiring from active competition in 1971, Gurney's All-American Racers became an engineering consulting firm and a technology investment firm that morphed into the powerful multibillion-dollar Gurney Group by 1981. Gurney is best known in business for saving the British car industry with his acquisitions of British Motor Corporation in 1982, and today the Gurney Austin Rover Motors is well-known for it's line of exciting performance passenger cars that are also very practical and forward thinking. Gurney Austin Rover is also hotly competitive in the World Rally Championship led by the powerhouse M-Sport Stobart team and reigning World Champion Matthew Wilson. Gurney is also known for his maverick independent-libertarian candidacy for President of the United States in 1992. "DAN GURNEY FOR PRESIDENT " bumper stickers were on bumpers of sports cars across America and Gurney's square jawed bluntness and smarts won 26% of the popular vote and carried 4 states (California, Indiana, Kentucky and North Carolina). He didn't win, but he made an impression. (4) A.J. Foyt was brought into Lotus along with Mario Andretti to form Colin Chapmans American Dream Team which developed the groundbreaking Lotus 78 and Lotus 79. (5) The Tigress of Turin is the first woman to win a Grand Prix (she did that in 75), and 1979 she shocked everybody with 3 wins in a wild championship season that came down to the final race. She is one of six women who has won a Formula 1 Grand Prix. Other winners: Divina Gallica (81), Michele Mouton (85), Victoria Butler-Henderson (95), Vanina Ickx (01), Katherine Legge (10), it is expected that Danica Patrick will join this list as she joins Lewis Hamilton at Stewart/Tyrrell in 2012. (6) Due to an impasse on a number of issue Federation du Sport Automobile and Formula One Constructors Association run separate Formula 1 seasons (7) Bernie and Jean-Marie couldn't work out their differences (8) "You'll sooner see Margaret Thatcher in her bed riding Arthur Scargill than seeing a united Grand Prix Championship" -- James Hunt during a BBC "Grand Prix" broacast, 1982. "James...I don't even want to think about that," Murray Walker, 1982. (9) PEACE IN OUR TIME! The 1983 Eccelstone-Balestre Agreement ends the FISA-FOCA War opening to door to a great 1983 season and Gilles Villenueve winning a unified title. Under the terms of the agreement, the 1980, 1981 and 1982 winners of both series are consider official World Drivers Champions in the record books. Oh and Gilles Villenueve. Lives back in Bethierville, Quebec Canada. He's an agent to a number of drivers, including his son Jacques, who is a 2-time Indianapolis 500 winner and an 11-time Grand Prix winner. Villenueve is also president of Speedway Canada Ltd, which is the marketing and organizing arm of the Grand Prix of Canada in addition to administering the site of the Grand Prix of Canada, Circuit Rene Lesvesque in Montreal. (10) The last turbo season. (11) The first season under the 1989 Eccelstone-Balestre Agreement calling for a 3.5 liter Engine formula allowing Engines up to 12 cylinders. Porsches innovative W-12 was formidable as Bellof nipped Senna to win the championship and the left the team cited Sennas constant polickticking and complaining. (12) Taking the seat for a vacated Nigel Mansell, who left for IndyCar after contentious contract dispute, Kamikaze Uyko has a 6-win dream season to be the first Japanese World Champion. (13) The 26-year old American was the first World Champ from the USA since 78, and would leave F1 after the 2009 season as the winningest American driver in Formula 1 history. Gordon is semiretired from racing (he still competes at Indianapolis, Daytona and LeMans), a happy husband to his actress wife Keeley Hawes-Gordon, and a father of two. Next year, you'll hear him giving his commentary as part of the BBC's broadcast team for the F1 coverage in 2012 and Americans will get to see him, too! Formula One Administration Chairman Damon Hill announced this week that BBC America has been awarded the U.S. broadcast rights for Formula 1 for the next four years. Oh by the way...Where is Damon? Graham's son is considered "The greatest man on 2 wheels, PERIOD". Hill is a 16-time motorcycle world champion, and led the transition into the MotoGP format. Hill was tapped to replace Bernie Eccelstone as chairman of the FOA after Eccelstone was indicted on allegations of securities fraud. (14) He was Flat Out. He wasnt Flat Broke..and yes, he is the Stig ITTLs version of Top Gear (15) Alex Zanardi has both his legs, and hes starting his own F1 team in 2012. Scuderia Zanardi Rapide, with engines provided by Honda. His team drivers will be veteran Giancarlo Fischiella and GP2 Champion and former Indy 500 winner Marco Andretti. (16) Juan Pablo Montoya shocked everyone with the Malaysian-British David Richards Prodrive teams miracle debut. (17) Taking advantage of some loopholes in the aerodynamics rules, Mark Webber and Peter Brock caught all of Formula 1 with their collective pants down like Braun GP did OTL. (18) A dominant 10 win season as Vettel handed Eddie Jordan his sixth driver's title and an 8th Constructors Championship. (19) The circus begins next march at New Kylami International Speedway. A total rebuild of the original Kylami, including the sexy 1 mile downhill straightaway from hell. (20) John Surtees is the only man to win world championships on 2 wheels and 4 wheels...Although a lot of people think Fernando Alonso may seriously threaten to turn the trick after a great MotoGP season in 2011.
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A different list -- Alternative Indianapolis 500 winners
A list of Indianapolis 500 winners post World War II
1946 George Robson (USA) Adams-Sparks 1947 Mauri Rose (USA) Deidt-Offenhauser 1948 Mauri Rose (USA) Deidt-Offenhauser 1949 Bill Holland (USA) Deidt-Offenhauser 1950 Johnnie Parsons (USA) Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser 1951 Lee Willard (USA) Kurtis Kraft-Offenhasuer 1952 Troy Ruttman (USA) Kuzma-Offenhauser 1953 Bill Vukovich (USA) Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser 1954 Bill Vukovich (USA) Kurtis Kraft-Offenhauser 1955 Joie Ray (USA) Mercedes W196 (1) 1956 Peter Collins (GBR) Ferrari 1957 Jim Rathmann (USA) Watson-Offenhauser 1958 A.J. Foyt (USA) Watson-Offenhauser 1959 Stirling Moss (GBR) Cooper Climax Indy Special 1960 Jim Rathmann (GBR) Watson-Offenhauser (2) 1961 Phil Hill (USA) Ferrari 1962 Rodger Ward (USA) Watson Climax-Offenhauser 1963 Eddie Sachs (USA) Watson Climax-Offenhauser 1964 A.J. Foyt (USA) Watson Climax-Offenhauser 1965 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus-Ford (3) 1966 Jim Clark (SCT) Lotus-Ford 1967 Lloyd Ruby (USA) Watson Climax-Ford 1968 Jackie Stewart (SCT) Lotus-STP Turbine 1969 Mario Andretti (USA) Lola-Ford 1970 Dan Gurney (USA) AAR Eagle-Shelby 1971 Mark Donahue (USA) Penske McLaren-Cosworth 1972 Swede Savage (USA) Lola-Cosworth 1973 Mark Donahue (USA) Penske McLaren-Cosworth 1974 Johnny Rutherford (USA) McLaren-Cosworth 1975 A.J. Foyt (USA) Coyote-Cosworth 1976 Al Unser (USA) Penske-Cosworth 1977 A.J. Foyt (USA) Coyote/Lotus-Cosworth 1978 Tom Sneva (USA) Penske-Coworth 1979 Danny Ongais (USA) Penske-Porsche (4) 1980 Tim Richmond (USA) Chapparal-Cosworth (5) 1981 Mario Andretti (USA) Wildcat-Cosworth 1982 Rick Mears (USA) Penske-Cosworth 1983 Mike Mosley (USA) Lightning-Buick 1984 Gary Bettenhausen (USA) Lightning-Buick 1985 Mario Andretti (USA) Lola-Cosworth 1986 Bobby Rahal (USA) Lola-Cosworth (6) 1987 Bobby Rahal (USA) Ferrari 87I (7) 1988 Mario Andretti (USA) Lola-Chevrolet 1989 Al Unser Jr. (USA) Lola-Chevrolet 1990 Danny Sullivan (USA) Ferrari 87I 1991 Willy T. Ribbs (USA) WalkerSport-Porsche 971 (8) 1992 A.J. Foyt (USA) Coyote-Ford/Cosworth (8) 1993 Nigel Mansell (USA) Lola-Ford Cosworth 1994 Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) Penske-Mercedes 1995 Jacques Villenueve (CAN) Ferrari (9) 1996 Scott Goodyear (CAN) Lola-Honda (10) 1997 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Fittipaldi Penske-Mercedes (11) 1998 Alex Zanardi (ITA) Ferrari (12) 1999 Mika Salo (FIN) Target Ganassi Lola-Honda (13) 2000 Tony Stewart (USA) Foyt Coyote-Chevrolet (14) 2001 Ayrton Senna (BRA) Penske-Chevrolet 2002 Gil de Ferran (BRA) Penske-Chevrolet 2003 Michael Andretti (USA) Lola-Ford/Cosworth 2004 Tony Kanaan (BRA) Andretti Lola-Ford/Cosworth 2005 Tony Stewart (USA) Foyt Coyote-Chevrolet 2006 Sam Hornish Jr. (USA) Penske-Honda 2007 Helio Castroneves (BRA) Penske-Honda 2008 Danica Patrick (USA) Andretti Lola-Ford (15) 2009 Helio Castroneves (BRA) Penske-Honda 2010 Tony Stewart (USA) Stewart Hoosier Coyote-Chevrolet 2011 Ana Beatriz (BRA) Foyt Coyote-Chevrolet (16) (1) Joie Ray, driving the "Spirit of Crispus Attucks High School Special, " put up a cinderella victory and became the first African-American Driver to win the Indianapolis 500, ending a long road for a champion in American Automobile Association's lower divisions. He tried to qualify for the race every year since 1949, and each time because of the regulations barring black drivers from attempting to qualify for a "big car" series event, although Ray was a very competitive driver. In 1953, those rules were stricken and Ray qualified for his first 500. In 1954, he finished 13th, but caught the eye of a Mercedes team looking to return to the 500 as a factory team. The win by Ray was a big win for Mercedes, who was having a banner year in Motorsports. Ray would start 10 more 500s, and finish in the top 10 6 times. After hanging up his helmet for good, worked with Carroll Shelby as a mechanic. Ray was a part the development team that built Dan Gurney's Shelby-powered AAR Eagle that won the 1967 Formula 1 World Championship. In 1974, Ray opened a racing school in California. One of his first student was a brash young black kid named Willy T. Ribbs, who ended up being the second African-American to start and Indianapolis 500, and in 1991 followed in Ray's footsteps by winning the 500 Mile Race. (2) Jim Rathmann died earlier this week at age 83. His 1960 Indianapolis 500 was the last hurrah for the front-engined Indy Roadster. (3) Scotland's Jim Clark did a triple crown. Winning the Indianapolis 500, the Formula 1 World Championship, and winning a NASCAR Grand National Event at Fonda, New York. (4) Danny Ongais, "The Flying Hawaiian" dominated the 1979 race driving a Penske powered by a special Porsche-built pure racing pushrod engine. He was so dominant, that USAC changed the rule to basically eliminate it in 1980 (5) An early season crash at Trenton put Johnny Rutherford on the sidelines for the Month of May, so Jim Hall rolled the dice rookie driver Tim Richmond of Ashland, Ohio. Richmond shocked the racing world by putting Hall's groundbreaker Chapparal on the pole and then leading 164 of 200 laps in a stunning victory. And that began a career for one of the wildest, throwback run and fun drivers of our era, who won races in IndyCars, NASCAR, Formula 1 and Endurance racing. Today Tim Richmond is still on the loose sort of. He's an outspoken racing commentator for Speed, but he's also made some marked changes in his life. He's a husband, father and could be 2012's biggest reality TV star, too. A movie on his life and career, "Go To Bed With A Winner" starring Matthew McConaughey as Tim Richmond, will open in theaters July 3, 2012. But if you want to know more about the Tim Richmond you may not know about, check out the "NASCAR Cup Series Champions" section (6) Bobby Rahal wins his first Indianapolis 500, but it was bittersweet because of the loss of his team owner and mentor Jim Trueman to cancer 14 days later. The IndyCar championship trophy is now named the Jim Trueman Cup, after one of the greatest friends to American Open Wheel Racing. (7) After Jim Trueman's death in 1986, Trueman left ownership of TrueSports to Bobby Rahal. An interested Enzo Ferrari looking to return to Indianapolis, offered to make TrueSports Ferrari's factory IndyCar team. Rahal repaid the trust of Il Commendatore by winning the 1987 Indy 500. Rahal drove for Ferrari through his retirement in 1992. Bobby Rahal returned to Ferrari in 1995, to be the team principal of the newly-formed Ferrari North American Racing Team. Rahal is the director of all Ferrari Motorsports in North America and is an member of the Board of Directors of FIAT. (8) After 3 years of mediocre results in IndyCar racing. Porsche Indy Racing team boss Derek Walker took a chance on 5-time Trans Am Champion Willy T. Ribbs, who had limited IndyCar success. His effort was repaid with an Indy win as part of a 5-win season where Ribbs finished 2nd in the CART PPG IndyCar Series to Bobby Rahal. Ribbs became the second African-American to win the 500. Today Ribbs and partners Max Siegel and Jay-Z run Rocafella Revolution Racing, a development team designed to get up and coming minority talent in racing. One of his drivers, Marc Davis won the British Formula Three Championship in 2009, and Finished 3rd in GP2 In 2010 and 2011. Davis will graduate to Formula 1 this season for Force India. (9) Jacques Villenueve was immediately hired by Bobby Rahal after Rahal was put in charge of Ferrari's IndyCar team. Villenueve won 10 races that season to dominate the IndyCar championship. 1995 is also important because of the what didn't happen. A push to form a new all-oval IndyCar series by Indianapolis Motor Speedway Tony George was thankfully headed off thanks to the urging of Jacques' father Gilles and Mario Andretti, who brokered peace between the feuding factions within the sport. (10) Scott Goodyear won the 500 in the closest 3-way finish in Speedway history, nosing out Al Unser Jr and Jimmy Vasser at the line to win. (11) Ayrton Senna's first run at the track, and the great Brazilian champion wins. All of Senna's prize money went to charities in Brazil. (12) Alex Zanardi leads a dominant Ferrari 1-2 with Jacques Villenueve. Zanardi went on to win IndyCar Series championships in 1997 and 1999 before moving to Formula 1 in 2000, where he won the Formula 1 Championship in 2001, 2003 and 2005. (13) Mika Salo stepped out of the shadow of being "The Other Mika" with an epic comeback win in 1999 where he passed Eddie Cheever down the final straightaway to win. Salo went on to win 19 IndyCar races before retiring in 2007. Today Salo is a partner in Suomi Sports Management with fellow Finnish racing star Keke Rosberg, and his overseeing the racing career of his son Max, who is an up and coming rally driver. (14) Tony Stewart has won in everything you can imagine, just like his mentor and friend A.J. Foyt. Stewart has three Indy 500 wins, his most recent coming in 2010 as a driver owner. He also has 5 Series Championships (2001, 2002, 2005, 2007 and 2011).He also has 6 USAC Sprint, Midget and Silver Crown titles to his name. He also owns his own IndyCar team, A World Of Outlaws Team and is currently working on the construction of the Tony Stewart Speedbowl near his hometown of Rushville, Indiana. (15) Danica Patrick's breakthrough in 2008 was an end and a beginning for a determined female who has shown talent and promise all the way up the ladder. In 2009 Patrick won the IndyCar Series championship and nearly snuck up on Tony Stewart in a late season charge in 2011. This season, she will achieve a personal dream by moving to Formula 1, where she was take the second seat at Team Stewart/Tyrrell. (16) Ana Beatriz's spunk and spirit was the exclamation point on a wild 2011 Indianapolis 500 that broke records for lead changes, breath taking moments and a frantic finish that saw 4 passes for the lead in the final lap. Beatriz dive underneath J.R. Hildebrand in turn four was the last pass and the winning pass. What makes Beatriz's win even more special was that it was 8th Indy 500 victory for the legendary A.J. Foyt as an owner and driver.
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First off, nice to see an F1 timeline!
One question is, how, with a POD of 1950 (presumably earlier), do you have quite so much convergence between OTL and TTL. While I appreciate the champions are different, the drivers winning world championships are the same people (presumably identical) to OTL. Strict butterflies should mean that champions from at least Tiff Needell onward won't be born, at least not as the same person they were OTL. But I can understand why you've been loose on it, so it's not a big issue. What I really want to ask is, why are there seemingly so few fatal accidents ITTL? In OTL a driver racing in the 50s, 60s and 70s stood a high chance of dying in a race, and Peter Collins, Wolfgang von Trips, Jochen Rindt and Piers Courage are just some of the famous names that lost their lives in Formula One in this period (by the way, if you haven't, watch the BBC4 documentary 'Grand Prix: The Killer Years' - just make sure you're feeling strong before you do, it gets me every time). Do these drivers still die, or do others die in their place? If so, who? If not, what effect does this have on the sport? Does F1 still have its black weekend in 1994 or an alt-equivalent? OTL, the fatalities have been instrumental in getting safety measures brought in. Would you see this ATL as being more or less safe than OTL? Look forward to hearing more from you.
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I love this
I love this timeline especially Jordan F1 still around I take it Nigel didn't crash in Japan in 87 and beat Piquet. I am a huge Mansell fan so I'm kinda curious to know what happened between 87-93 Who did he go to? Did he win the Indy Car title in 93 etc.
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It just that the more of the legendary drivers escaped the Reaper in this timeline. Clark, Senna, Cevert..all escaped the reaper. Any not to mention those who got so beat up in a race car that they didn't drive again. Clay Raggazzoni. Alan Jones. Jacques Laffitte. Martin Donnelly. Sandro Nannini. Satoru Nakajima. And not just in Formula 1. The photos of Eddie Sachs death at Indianapolis in 1965 still resonate. Gordon Johncock's fiery crash at Indy in 1973. Joe Weatherly's death during the 1966 Daytona 500. Bobby Issac and Tiny Lund dying in a 15-car pileup at the 1973 Talladega 500. Quote:
1970 Italian Grand Prix -- Jo Bonnier killed in practice accident. Jochen Rindt killed in qualifying session. Andrea de Adamich and Henri Pescarolo both badly injured in accidents South African Grand Prix 1971-1977 -- The old Kylami circuit killed at least a driver a year for six straight years. The 1974 race was the deadliest weekend, four drivers killed in the weekend, and 3 other drivers in protest of the lack of response in terms of marshalling corner workers withdrew from the race...including the man who would be '74 champion, Francois Cevert. From that weekend on..Cevert truly took up the mantle of his mentor Jackie Stewart as a advocate for greater driver safety. Canadian Grand Prix 1982. Riccardo Paletti died in the race. Rene Arnoux was so badly injured that he never made another start in so much as a go kart again. Hockenheim 1985 Didier Pironi killed during qualifying. Alain Prost seriously injured both feet in an accident..He would miss the '86 season but return after successful "Rick Mears Surgery" to a fine year in 1987 driving for Ligier. And then Monaco 1994.. No deaths, but Karl Wendlinger, Roland Ratzenberger, Pedro Paulo Diniz and Alex Caffi certainly wished they'd stayed in bed. All four scratched for the season...But they could have been worse And I haven't even gotten into Group B Rallying yet Quote:
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This system to contacts was bolstered further by the same F1 alum who ended up brokering the peace that ended the FISA-FOCA conflict. Dan Gurney, who among the first to introduce safety measures such as full-face helmets and a cockpit extinguisher system (developed in cooperation with Bill Simpson). Gurney set up lines of communication between F1's medical staff and the travelling medical staff for Championship Auto Racing Teams (IndyCar's governing body). The exchange of information between the sides was a boon to driver safety in the 1980s. The programme bared its first fruit with Alain Prost's ugly accident at Montreal in 1985. Both feet were pulverized after a high speed impact. However, Professor Watkins and staff had a link with a specialist in the United States who had pioneered a procedure to deal with such an injury. It had already saved the careers of Rick Mears and Rocky Moran. Three days after the incident, Dr. Terry Trammel completed a successful surgery on Alain Prost's feet. Prost was back in an F1 car in 1987...and later that season carded a win. The Prost incident also led to a "De-Armco" campaign and a look at alternative wall technologies. CART in the U.S. was looking at the same thing. The GPDA, FOCA and CART began working with scientific institutes worldwide to focus on better boundary systems, and all were active working with manufacturers of safety equipment. The additional emphasis on safety, and funding being put behind by the teams and major sponsors accelerated the introduction of a number of lifesaving devices. By 1988, less cumbersome, more effective extinguisher system was in every F1 cockpit. In 1989, Simpson began producing the Head And Neck Support (HANS) Device, and F1 teams begin experimental studies with it. The system, based on a idea by a biomechanical engineer, became mandatory in Formula 1 and CART competitors starting with the 1991 season. NASCAR began using them in 1993, after a violent 1992 season that saw five contending drivers nursing injuries during the season due to crashes. The next big step came with Jackie Stewart's entry into Formula 1 in 1994. Whereas the raised cockpit safety capsule would be mandatory in 1995, Stewart's 1994 SF01 was built with the raised cockpit in place, and Stewart urged other constructors to put in the safety feature now. Frank Williams listened to him and had the FW16 redesigned with the raised cockpit. On May 1, 1994 on the Tamborello sweeper at the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari, Imola, Italy...Ayrton Senna rear suspension degraded at 205 miles per hour. The car skittered across the gravel trap and impacted the wall on the side of the track.. In impact a shard of carbon fiber from the front suspension broke and projected on a arc toward the cockpit...The suspension piece was deflected away from the driver by the raised barrier around the driver. Ayrton Senna had bruised ribs and got his wind knocked out. He was grimacing as her got out of the car. Partly from pan and breathlessness, partly from the frustration of having the car break while leading the race. Ayrton Senna walked away, and at the end of the season was celebrating his third World Drivers' Championship. But Senna wasn't happy about how hard he hit the wall, and he let Bernie Eccelstone and Max Mosley know. In 1997, that area of the track was protected by a new technology called Steel and Foam Energy Reduction (SAFER) The American-developed SAFER system (developed with pride at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln ) was showing up at tracks in the United States already and Formula 1 began using them with a eye toward every F1 venue having SAFER barriers by 2004.But there is the other side. The push for safety also was a boon for track design. With racing getting safer, drivers in better shape, the old school race track was the vogue. Old circuits like Spa-Francochamps, Paul Ricard, Zandvoort, Kylami, Montjuich, Scadinavian Raceway, Osterreichring and Watkins Glen were back in style. Old Nurburgring even went under a total makeover to bring the track up to current F1 safety standards. The Grand Prix of the European Union is ran at the good ol' Ring. The newer venues such as Sepang and Shanghai were designed to race and feel like the tracks of the 60s, but have 21st century safety and hospitality. A delicate balance has been struck, but Drivers are wary. They want to put on a great show, but you don't want another year of busted up bodies like 2000 and 2001, where it seemed a lot of drivers spent more time in the neurosurgeon's office. That's a major sticking point of the next Eccelstone-Balestre Agreement, the drivers want the old school tracks to put more safety features in or get those track out of the series.
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What happened was a series of reforms. The biggest came from an idea from 1982 Formula Two Champion Jonathan Palmer, who was also a licensed physician. The idea centered around a full-time medical staff under the supervision of the Chief Medical Delegate (who is the same person ITTL as in the OTL. Professor Sid Watkins) who would travel to the races, maintain tighter correlation with the personal physicians of competitors and build a network of medical professionals at every stop and nation on the tour for rapid response and long-term health care. This system to contacts was bolstered further by the same F1 alum who ended up brokering the peace that ended the FISA-FOCA conflict. Dan Gurney, who among the first to introduce safety measures such as full-face helmets and a cockpit extinguisher system (developed in cooperation with Bill Simpson). Gurney set up lines of communication between F1's medical staff and the travelling medical staff for Championship Auto Racing Teams (IndyCar's governing body). The exchange of information between the sides was a boon to driver safety in the 1980s. The programme bared its first fruit with Alain Prost's ugly accident at Montreal in 1985. Both feet were pulverized after a high speed impact. However, Professor Watkins and staff had a link with a specialist in the United States who had pioneered a procedure to deal with such an injury. It had already saved the careers of Rick Mears and Rocky Moran. Three days after the incident, Dr. Terry Trammel completed a successful surgery on Alain Prost's feet. Prost was back in an F1 car in 1987...and later that season carded a win. The Prost incident also led to a "De-Armco" campaign and a look at alternative wall technologies. CART in the U.S. was looking at the same thing. The GPDA, FOCA and CART began working with scientific institutes worldwide to focus on better boundary systems, and all were active working with manufacturers of safety equipment. The additional emphasis on safety, and funding being put behind by the teams and major sponsors accelerated the introduction of a number of lifesaving devices. By 1988, less cumbersome, more effective extinguisher system was in every F1 cockpit. In 1989, Simpson began producing the Head And Neck Support (HANS) Device, and F1 teams begin experimental studies with it. The system, based on a idea by a biomechanical engineer, became mandatory in Formula 1 and CART competitors starting with the 1991 season. NASCAR began using them in 1993, after a violent 1992 season that saw five contending drivers nursing injuries during the season due to crashes. The next big step came with Jackie Stewart's entry into Formula 1 in 1994. Whereas the raised cockpit safety capsule would be mandatory in 1995, Stewart's 1994 SF01 was built with the raised cockpit in place, and Stewart urged other constructors to put in the safety feature now. Frank Williams listened to him and had the FW16 redesigned with the raised cockpit. On May 1, 1994 on the Tamborello sweeper at the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari, Imola, Italy...Ayrton Senna rear suspension degraded at 205 miles per hour. The car skittered across the gravel trap and impacted the wall on the side of the track.. In impact a shard of carbon fiber from the front suspension broke and projected on a arc toward the cockpit...The suspension piece was deflected away from the driver by the raised barrier around the driver. Ayrton Senna had bruised ribs and got his wind knocked out. He was grimacing as her got out of the car. Partly from pan and breathlessness, partly from the frustration of having the car break while leading the race. Ayrton Senna walked away, and at the end of the season was celebrating his third World Drivers' Championship. But Senna wasn't happy about how hard he hit the wall, and he let Bernie Eccelstone and Max Mosley know. In 1997, that area of the track was protected by a new technology called Steel and Foam Energy Reduction (SAFER) The American-developed SAFER system (developed with pride at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln ) was showing up at tracks in the United States already and Formula 1 began using them with a eye toward every F1 venue having SAFER barriers by 2004.[/quote]Good moves, all of them. Quote:
If you want a great place for a race in Scandinavia, the Gotland Ring in Sweden is your answer. Spa, Kyalami, Zandvoort (a Dutch GP with Belgium and Germany so close by? Interesting....), Watkins Glen and the Osterreichring can all be brought back, though the Osterreichring isn't a great circuit for competition (too narrow) and I'd imagine you'd end up with too many races in Europe. With Americans regularly involved in F1, South Africa back (or never having left) and the inevitable races in India and China, along with all of the European rounds you'd probably be really pushing it for a schedule.
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1991 Yoachim I., Ferrari 1992 Ayrton Senna, McLaren-Honda 1993 Yoachim I., Ferrari 1994 Yoachim I., Ferrari 1995 Ayrton Senna, McLaren-Chevrolet 1996 Yoachim I., Ferrari * Yoachim I., who happens to be my first cousin, profoundly frightened and impressed the operator of an upscale go-kart facility where 16-year-old Yoachim had won, in a summer-camp contest, several sessions at. My brother and I were there. Within half an hour, not only had he lapped the other karts several times, but the rear tires of the kart were smoldering and threatening to put him flat onto the rims. When the facility manager approached my cousin with fire in his eyes, I had thought, well, that was fun, we'll be evicted in Three, Two, One... But I was mistaken. Yoachim emerged from the office with his face struck with wonder and awe. His first words to us, "Don't you dare pinch me! Whatever you do! I want this to last!" From one friend of a friend to another, starting with the kart-track operator who owned a Ferrari dealership and reaching to sacred Modena itself, within two years my rough and ready cousin was trembling with glee and on the starting grid for Ferrari's own F1 team. He scored second place that day, and in fury, he tossed his helmet onto the track and refused to appear on the podium. That year was his first as Driver's Champion. It was not his last. After five years as champion, Yoachim met the other love of his life, got her pregnant, and married her. To facilitate domesticity state-side, Yoachim easily landed a spot on a NASCAR team and easily dominated that sport for the next twelve years. He then "retired" and opened his own custom-auto shop in Fort Lauderdale, often taking a hands-on role with creating extreme vehicles. (My brother and I share five of them!) (Incidentally, he still holds the unofficial record for Fort Lee, NJ to JFK Airport: 15 minutes.)
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I'm thinking this for the post-1986 Group B World Rally Championship....
1987-88 After the deaths of Henri Toivonen and Sergio Cresto on the 1986 Tour de Corse and Marc Surer's co-driver in a high-profile televised accident in Germany resulted in major changes to the events Group B ran. Unwilling to kill the whole category, the class was booted off of tarmac rallies for 1987, and automatic fire extinguisher systems and fuel cells were mandated for all cars - the latter many figuring may have been enough to save Toivonen and Cresto. Lancia's Delta S4 was removed from the scene after 1986, with Lancia felling the car, which had killed no less than five drivers and co-drivers, was simply too dangerous to continue to use. Lancia instead brought out the 041, a variant of the 037 fitted with the same engine and four-wheel-drive system as the Delta S4. The 041's teething troubles kept Lancia from a high position in the 1987 WRC. Toyota and Porsche entered the full 1987 WRC, respectively with the MR2 based Toyota 222B and Porsche with the 959-based 961. The 1987 series saw the race at Corsica restricted to Group A cars, and new events in Japan and Australia added to the schedule. Citroen's BX 4TC only ran the first six rounds before Citroen gave up on the car, finding it too big and heavy to be competitive. By contrast, the agile 222B and astoundingly-powerful 961 were successful right off the bat, and Porsche's wundercar started off its career with an unlikely win in the hands of American rally legend John Buffum at Monte Carlo. Toyota, maintaining its long-held dominance in the rallies in Africa, won both the legendary Safari Rally in Kenya and the rally in the Ivory Coast. Buffum scored a second win for the 961 at the Olympus Rally in the United States. Audi's factory team was absent for all of 1987, though several private entries stayed in the fight, and while none of them won a rally, they did have some points successes. The Peugeot 205 T16 as the fastest car in 1987, and despite only managing to win four of the 13 events, and Juha Kankkunen walked away with the 1987 WRC title. For 1988, things got rather more serious still. Audi was back with a turbocharged V6-powered Quattro, and Ford sent the RS200 out with a seven-speed gearbox and the same Cosworth four-pot engine as the RS Cosworth road car, but with rather more power. Despite that, Lancia's 041 scored first blood in Monte Carlo in the hands of Bruno Saby, who managed the win in large part due to Buffum's crashing out and the Ford RS200s, who were stupid quick early, both suffering spectacular engine failures. The surprise was the second-place finisher - a Ferrari F40, privately entered by Italian racers Jolly Club and with Ferrari approving, and them doubly approving after the two-wheel-drive F40 was proven to be amazingly good at Monte Carlo. It is said that Enzo Ferrari himself was pleased at the news of the F40 doing well in Monte Carlo. The F40's surprises weren't done yet - it did well in several rallies in 1988, managing to survive for fifth place in the Safari Rally and sixth at the Acropolis, by which time two more F40s were on the circuit. But the kicker came when the F40 came out victorious in a crash-filled round in Argentina in the hands of Hannu Mikkola - ironically, the last win in any race for Ferrari before Enzo Ferrari died eight days later. The F40 didn't race in 1989, but the car's 1988 successes proved with no doubts that Ferrari and rallying could indeed mix. The rest of the season was no less full of surprises. Audi got off to a slow start but did well as the season went on. Peugeot's now-aging 205 Turbo 16 kept evolving, but by now the Ford RS200s and Toyota 222R2s were the speed demons of the bunch, with the Rover Metro 6R4 proving to be as reliable as granite but not fast enough to challenge the leaders, a young Scotsman by the name of Colin McRae, who made his debut for the Metro 6R4 factory squad in 1988, tended to challenge that view. By the end of the season, Ford had at long last come out victorious in the WRC in the Group B era, though they claimed the manufacturer's title over Toyota by just two points. Audi was in the ascendant, however, and Peugeot, Porsche and Ferrari had proven capable. The successes of the sport had drawn the attention of others, too, and so 1989 would see new arrivals, new cars, and some of the biggest thrills and spills in the history of the WRC....
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