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Old November 27th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Niko Malaka Niko Malaka is offline
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The the spanish Cortes accept the Treaty of Córdoba

In 1821, the last viceroy of New Spain, Juan de O'Donojú and the comander in chief of the victorious "Trigarante" army, Agustín de Iturbide signed in the city of Córdoba, near Veracruz, a treaty that recognised the independence of México and estabilshed that the mexican crown would be offered to Fernando VII, king of Spain or, if he refused, to another member of the spanish royal family, forming some short of hispanic Commonwealth.
But the spanish consitutional Cortes, lead by the ideas of people like Flórez Estrada and other strong centralists (in the imperial affairs, strangely not in metropolitan affairs) refused the treaty, leading to the complete break of ties between Spain and México (and the proclamation of Iturbide as emperor) .

So, what if the Cortes accept the treaty? Could that boost other monarchist-autonomist movements in the colapsed Hispanic Imperial System? My guess is that it could have a replica in the vicerroyalty of Perú and, maybe, later in Flores' Ecuador, but I have doubts about Río de la Plata and Nueva Granada. How the international relations change? Could it last or the internal tensions in Spain and the Americas break away the new order?

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Old November 27th, 2009, 04:26 PM
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My guess is that, except for the Rio de la Plata area (which, IIRC, is the only other area that actively tried to sought a monarchy), it wouldn't make much of a difference. That's probably because a lot of the independence movements either are taking place at the time or have already taken place, and in most cases they immediately jumped into the republican circuit. Thus, Venezuela and Chile are very likely to replicate OTL and continue on as republics and (if Bolivar is butterflied away) Nueva Granada, Peru, et. al. would probably also go that same path, as in OTL. (It will be a bit more fragmented than OTL, though, for obvious reasons.) The Rio de la Plata area, however, might buck the trend and go a path similar to México and attempt to get a monarch there, which would be interesting to see.
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Old November 27th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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August 24th of 1821...hmmm...to late to do anything.

Bolivar finished his campaign in Boyaca two weeks earlier, pretty much liberating New Granada; Venezuela is free and a 20,000 strong man army that was the last hope to occupy Buenos Aires was dissolved due to widespread disease in 1819, ending with the Liberal Revolution of 1820.

Argentina is in the middle of a civil war and once the war ends, the new government will care little about the Monarchy; Chile will remain a Republic, and Bolivar will sure as hell not gonna give up his Colombia project or cease in his invasion plans for Peru, where San Martin has already occupied Lima and is in charge of the Government.

The royalists in Peru were toast in 1821...
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