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Old March 19th, 2009, 07:22 PM
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Kolchak Survives!

What if Aleksandr Kolchak manged to escape Russia say, to the UK or Sweden and lived into the 1950's at a natural extent (meaning that he'd live till then unbothered, but other factors can change that.) Would he pair up with the Nazis and/or Vlasov, or create a neo-White movement?

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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:00 PM
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Either live boring life in exile or team up with the Nazis and being killed during WW2.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:42 PM
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Chances are he'd fall into obscurity, like another famous exile from the Russian civil war, Anarchist leader Nestor Makhno.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 09:38 PM
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What if Aleksandr Kolchak manged to escape Russia say, to the UK or Sweden and lived into the 1950's at a natural extent (meaning that he'd live till then unbothered, but other factors can change that.) Would he pair up with the Nazis and/or Vlasov, or create a neo-White movement?

The possibilities...
Ah, so you don't mean THIS Kolchak, then.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 09:58 PM
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Are limited. He could have become a refugee in Eastern Europe, a prop for Nazi movement in Russsia when the war started, or simply die forgotten.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 12:50 AM
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Would he pair up with the Nazis and/or Vlasov, or create a neo-White movement?
According to all accounts, Kolchak was fiercely patriotic. His alliance with any power attacking Russia is ASB, much less with Nazi cannibals (he possessed healthy bit of left leaning). Besides, he was famous and very capable polar explorer. So, it is quite possible that he would mend fences with Communist authorities sometimes in late 1920s and return to USSR to participate in Arctic exploration program (he would perish in Great Purge then). Alternative career paths for him would be to join Amundsen's gang, to go to America and join Byrd or just quietly settle somewhere in immigration the way Denikin did.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 12:46 AM
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Having a unmolested opponent living in the west doesn't strike me as realistic given what happened to the rest of the opponents.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 03:22 PM
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Having a unmolested opponent living in the west doesn't strike me as realistic given what happened to the rest of the opponents.
Do you mean Denikin (Who lived until 1947 and died peacefully)? Or Slashchev (who was granted pardon and returned to USSR to teach Red Army officers to be assassinated later by a brother of a guy he personally executed during Civil War)? It was more complicated than caricature you're imagining. Even during WWII Reds generally only snapped Whites who were collaborating with Germany.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 12:33 PM
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Do you mean Denikin (Who lived until 1947 and died peacefully)? Or Slashchev (who was granted pardon and returned to USSR to teach Red Army officers to be assassinated later by a brother of a guy he personally executed during Civil War)? It was more complicated than caricature you're imagining. Even during WWII Reds generally only snapped Whites who were collaborating with Germany.
In Operation Keelhaul, Stalin demanded (and got) not only Soviet citizens who had collaborated with the Nazis but also White Russian emigres who had never been Soviet citizens in the first place.
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Old March 24th, 2009, 01:44 AM
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In Operation Keelhaul, Stalin demanded (and got) not only Soviet citizens who had collaborated with the Nazis but also White Russian emigres who had never been Soviet citizens in the first place.
You missed end of my message. Only those who fought in Waffen SS were "keelhauled" and I don't see Kolchak serving Hitler.
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