A Different North America, Part I

I intend to take this up to the 21st century soon, with maps and a story set in the alternate world. As you can see, a lot changes besides North America.


1783 – United States recognized as independent country with the Treaty of Paris

1785 – George Washington dies after a sudden illness

1787, 1788 – Two attempts to reach agreement on a new constitution for the United States fail

1789 – Beginning of French revolution

1789 – 1794 – Quarrels between the various states of the US lead to that nation breaking into 3 nations – Federal States of America (FSA) is New York and New England states, United States of America (USA) is Pennsylvania and New Jersey, Independent States of America (ISA) is everything from Maryland south to Georgia

1796 – Philadelphia accords divide lands between the Appalachians and Mississippi between the 3 nations.

1801 – French First Consul Napoleon Bonaparte secretly forces Spain to “retrocede” the vast Louisiana territory to France

1803 – Napoleon decides against selling Louisiana, decides instead to send a larger garrison and settlers

1805 – British naval victories effectively cut Louisiana off from most outside French support

1806 – French governor of Louisiana, on his own initiative, ends all restrictions on settlers from the ISA and USA entering territory. As a condition, though, able-bodied male settlers must join territorial militia.

1808-09 – First British attempt to capture New Orleans fails

1811 – 1815 – Sporadic fighting between Britain and Spain vs. Louisiana and the ISA in Louisiana, Florida. Second major British campaign to capture New Orleans fails. British support for Indians leads to undeclared state of war between Britain and USA, FSA.

1815 – Napoleon narrowly wins at Waterloo. He is eventually defeated and killed later in the year Austrian, Prussian, and some Russian forces.

1816 – Second Congress of Vienna alters peace terms. France loses Alsace, which goes to Hapsburg Austria, and Lorraine, which goes to Prussia. In North America, the southern part of Louisiana territory is recognized as an independent nation, but Britain gets most of the northern and central parts of the former territory.

1815 – 1823 – Spanish colonies from Mexico to Rio de la Plata achieve independence after a series of wars. Brazil achieves independence from Portugal peacefully.
1822 – Britain purchases Florida from Spain.

1827 – 1828 – First Ottoman-Egyptian war. Britain supports Ottoman Empire, France supports Egypt, which is technically a vassal of the Ottomans but is acting like an independent power. Egypt fails to take control of Palestine and Syria but takes the Hejas region of western Arabia.

1828 – North German Customs Union formed – Prussia, Hanover, Saxony, and several other minor principalities

1830 – Revolution in France topples Charles X, replaced by King Louis-Philippe. Rebellion in southern Netherlands (Belgium) fails.

1831 – Slavery abolished in all British territories. Reform Bill extends franchise in Britain.

1832 – 33 – Major slave uprising in South Carolina, ISA, takes about a year to fully suppress. Smaller rebellions in other parts of the ISA and Louisiana are quickly crushed. Many states in ISA soon pass laws expelling free blacks.

1833 – 35 - Emperor Augustin I of Mexico invites free blacks to settle in Mexican province of Tejas. Thousands accept this offer.

1837 – 38 – First Tejas War – white settlers in northern Tejas, partly supported by Louisiana and ISA, against Mexico and black settlers in southern Tejas. Treaty of Vera Cruz partitions Tejas into independent northern part and southern part as a territory of Mexico.

1839 – Imperial Customs Union formed – Austria, Bavaria, Wurttenburg, Baden

1840 – Emperor Augustin I of Mexico begins encouraging immigration to the province of Alto (Upper) California to develop the region.

1842 – Anglo-Chinese War – Britain forces China to open up more ports to international trade.

1844 – Russia forces China to cede territory north of Amur River.

1845-46 – King Louis Philippe of France agrees to several reform measures that increase popular support for his government

1846 – Discovery of gold in California

1847 – British allow the Latter-Day Saints, a religious group with some highly unorthodox beliefs that faced widespread discrimination in the USA to the east, to settle in Iowa territory.

1849 – All transportation of convicts to New South Wales, Van Diemen’s Land, and King Edward’s Land (OTL Queensland) in Australia is ended. Transport on a smaller scale is shifted to West Australia.

1850 – Britain’s India Act confirms the East India Company in its role as effective ruler of much of India. Various internal reforms are carried out as the Company shifts into administration rather than commerce as its greatest role.

Discovery of gold in Australia

1851 – Port city of Alexandrograd (OTL Vladivostok) is founded to provide a base for a Russian Pacific fleet.

Britain opens portions of Florida to settlement by ex-slaves and free blacks from other colonies. Florida becomes a haven for runaway slaves from the ISA, increasing tensions.

1852 – Death of Tsar Alexander I, who has ruled Russia for more than 50 years. The fact that Alexander ruled for over twice as long as OTL has a major effect on Russia. In the second part of his rule, Alexander remains conservative politically but becomes increasingly supportive of adopting technology from western Europe. Unlike OTL, Russia is already building quite a few railroads and modern factories by around 1860. Alexander also becomes fascinated by the idea of expanding Russia’s power eastward, from Central Asia to the Pacific. His example sets the tone for future Russian rulers. He also becomes convinced that traditional serfdom must end, but is never sure enough to actually end it.


Alto California becomes independent of Mexico in an agreement mediated by the British that avoids an open war. California gets OTL Nevada and most of Utah as well. Mexican citizens are given full rights to settle in and participate in the economy of California.

1853 – Britain reorganizes its North American Colonies


1855-1858 North American War pits Britain and Mexico against Louisiana, the ISA, and the USA. The war begins largely due to anger in the slaveholding ISA and Louisiana that British and Mexican territory was becoming a refuge for fugitive slaves. The USA joins later due to a variety of disputes with Britain. The war itself surprises both sides with the number of casualties – all troops are now using rifles with Whittaker bullets (OTL Minie balls) but using old tactics appropriate to the old, much less accurate smoothbores. Breechloaders and even a couple of repeat-action rifle designs appear towards the end of the war. Railroads used to a limited extent to move troops, but a lot of the fighting takes place in areas with few or no rails. ISA and Louisana use lightly armored gunboats against the British, but not with any spectacular results. The only substantial change in territory is the US losing much of OTL Wisconsin to the British. There are minor territorial adjustments elsewhere.


1858 – 1861 Second Egyptian-Ottoman War Ottomans supported by British, Egyptians supported by France. The immediate cause of the war is a dispute over who controls the isthmus of Suez, and whether British or French-owned companies will construct a canal there. Khedive of Egypt declares himself a fully independent Sultan. Early Egyptian victories are reversed, and the Ottomans win control of the disputed land. Also, Ottomans eliminate Egyptian presence in the Hejaz (western Arabian peninsula) and take firm control of Mecca and Medina. This war reinforces many of the lessons of North American war, but also sees the first use of heavily armored ships (by the British).

1859 – Federal States of America passes restrictive immigration laws, largely designed to restrict Catholic immigration

1861 – Uprising in Naples forces the King to grant a Constitution


1862 – France takes Algeria as a “protectorate”. France’s ally Egypt does something similar with Tripoli in Libya.

1863-64 – Prussia and a couple of smaller German states defeat Denmark in a war that turns out to be surprisingly hard-fought. Schleswig and Holstein are detached from Denmark and join the North German Customs Union.

1866-68 – Paraguay conquered and partitioned between Brazil and Rio de la Plata (OTL Argentina)

1867 – Russian naval forces pressure Japan into opening trade with the outside world.

1868 – Suez Canal completed by British-Ottoman company

1869 – Brazilian government announces gradual abolition of slavery beginning in 1870. Attempted coup by slaveholder-backed forces is put down.

1870-72 China War – Conservative faction of China’s government attempts to end all trading privileges by outsiders, provoking a general war against several outside powers. Britain, France, Russia, North German Confederation, Austria, Japan, Spain, FSA, USA, Mexico, and California all send expeditionary forces against China. Largest contingent is sent by Russia, followed by Britain. Modest Chinese military reforms still leave a military much less effective than its enemies. China’s military is also inexperienced except against localized rebellions (no Taiping rebellion in this timeline). When the war is over, China is still officially a sovereign nation, but effectively divided into spheres of influence that almost amount to protectorates. Russia’s sphere is largest – Manchuria and most of northern and western China, including the capital of Beijing. Britain has the dominant sphere of influence further south.


1873 – France purchases Portugal’s African colonies at Angola and Mozanbique

1875 – Major worldwide recession causes labor unrest in Europe and North America. Repression of the unrest is especially fierce in the Federal States of America.

1876 - Laws are passed in the FSA taking the right to vote away from anyone who participates in an illegal strike.


1876-77 – Japanese Civil War between supporters of the pro-Russian Shogun faction and the pro-British Imperial faction. The Shogun faction is victorious. The current Emperor is forced to abdicate and is replaced by a relative. From this point onward, Japan looks to Russia as its main ally and foreign partner.
 
No comments at all?

Darn it, do I have to put either the Draka or a superpower China into a timeline to generate any interest at all? ;)
 
ISA/FSA/USA? sounds vaguely familar...

Yup, it's a modified version of a timeline I posted ages ago.


Am I going to have to write a "sexier" timeline, with giant empires rising and falling every few years, and atomic weapons by 1900? ;)
 
Paul Spring said:
ISA/FSA/USA? sounds vaguely familar...

Yup, it's a modified version of a timeline I posted ages ago.


Am I going to have to write a "sexier" timeline, with giant empires rising and falling every few years, and atomic weapons by 1900? ;)

Bright day
No, you do not have to. But maybe add in bulk, it is hard to get a world-wide picture.
 
What I could never figure out about the name "Independent States of America" is is it a collective term for nonaligned states or actually the name of the group of states, which when aligned are not independent states. How can they have a central government? Doesn't one move from the state of being an Independent State to that of either United or Confederated?
 

Diamond

Banned
Paul Spring said:
No comments at all?

Darn it, do I have to put either the Draka or a superpower China into a timeline to generate any interest at all? ;)

It's been so long since I read your original, that I don't know exactly what you revised. So, no new comments except to reiterate what I said in the old thread: Good job, and keep going. And maps would be good.
 
A somewhat revised and expanded version of the first century of this ATL

1783 – United States recognized as independent country with the Treaty of Paris

1785 – George Washington dies after a sudden illness

1787, 1788 – Two attempts to reach agreement on a new constitution for the United States fail

1789 – Beginning of French revolution

1789 – 1794 – Quarrels between the various states of the US lead to that nation breaking into 3 nations – Federal States of America (FSA) is New York and New England states, United States of America (USA) is Pennsylvania and New Jersey, Independent States of America (ISA) is everything from Maryland south to Georgia

1796 – Philadelphia accords divide lands between the Appalachians and Mississippi between the 3 nations.

1801 – French First Consul Napoleon Bonaparte secretly forces Spain to “retrocede” the vast Louisiana territory to France

1803 – Napoleon decides against selling Louisiana, decides instead to send a larger garrison and settlers

1805 – British naval victories effectively cut Louisiana off from most outside French support

1806 – French governor of Louisiana, on his own initiative, ends all restrictions on settlers from the ISA and USA entering territory. As a condition, though, able-bodied male settlers must join territorial militia.

1808-09 – First British attempt to capture New Orleans fails

1811 – 1815 – Sporadic fighting between Britain and Spain vs. Louisiana and the ISA in Louisiana, Florida. Second major British campaign to capture New Orleans fails. British support for Indians leads to undeclared state of war between Britain and USA, FSA.

1815 – Napoleon narrowly wins at Waterloo. He is eventually defeated and killed later in the year Austrian, Prussian, and some Russian forces.

1816 – Second Congress of Vienna alters peace terms. France loses Alsace, which goes to Hapsburg Austria, and Lorraine, which goes to Prussia. In North America, the southern part of Louisiana territory is recognized as an independent nation, but Britain gets most of the northern and central parts of the former territory.

1815 – 1823 – Spanish colonies from Mexico to Rio de la Plata achieve independence after a series of wars. Brazil achieves independence from Portugal peacefully.
1822 – Britain purchases Florida from Spain.

1827 – 1828 – First Ottoman-Egyptian war. Britain supports Ottoman Empire, France supports Egypt, which is technically a vassal of the Ottomans but is acting like an independent power. Egypt fails to take control of Palestine and Syria but takes the Hejas region of western Arabia.

1828 – North German Customs Union formed – Prussia, Hanover, Saxony, and several other minor principalities

1830 – Revolution in France topples Charles X, replaced by King Louis-Philippe. Rebellion in southern Netherlands (Belgium) fails.

1831 – Slavery abolished in all British territories. Reform Bill extends franchise in Britain.

1832 – 33 – Major slave uprising in South Carolina, ISA, takes about a year to fully suppress. Smaller rebellions in other parts of the ISA and Louisiana are quickly crushed. Many states in ISA soon pass laws expelling free blacks.

1833 – 35 - Emperor Augustin I of Mexico invites free blacks to settle in Mexican province of Tejas. Thousands accept this offer.

1837 – 38 – First Tejas War – white settlers in northern Tejas, partly supported by Louisiana and ISA, against Mexico and black settlers in southern Tejas. Treaty of Vera Cruz partitions Tejas into independent northern part and southern part as a territory of Mexico. There will be great tensions for many decades in the future between Texas (northern Tejas), which is predominantly white, and southern Tejas, which is predominantly black and Mexican.

1839 – Imperial Customs Union is formed between Austria, Bavaria, Wurttenburg, Baden

1840 – Emperor Augustin I of Mexico begins encouraging immigration to the province of Alto (Upper) California to develop the region.

1842 – Anglo-Chinese War – Britain forces China to open up more ports to international trade. (Unlike OTL, Britain does not take the island that Hong Kong is on, nor does it start its own port there.)

1844 – Russia forces China to cede territory north of Amur River.

1845-46 – King Louis Philippe of France agrees to several reform measures that increase popular support for his government

1846 – Discovery of gold in California

1847 – British allow the Latter-Day Saints, a religious group with some highly unorthodox beliefs that faced widespread discrimination in the USA to the east, to settle in Iowa territory.

1849 – All transportation of convicts to New South Wales, Van Diemen’s Land, and King Edward’s Land (OTL Queensland) in Australia is ended. Transport on a smaller scale is shifted to West Australia.

1850 – Britain’s India Act confirms the East India Company in its role as effective ruler of much of India. Various internal reforms are carried out as the Company shifts into administration rather than commerce as its greatest role.

Discovery of gold in Australia

1851 – Port city of Alexandrograd (OTL Vladivostok) is founded to provide a base for a Russian Pacific fleet.

Britain opens portions of Florida to settlement by ex-slaves and free blacks from other colonies. Florida becomes a haven for runaway slaves from the ISA, increasing tensions.

1852 – Death of Tsar Alexander I, who has ruled Russia for more than 50 years. The fact that Alexander ruled for over twice as long as OTL has a major effect on Russia. In the second part of his rule, Alexander remains conservative politically but becomes increasingly supportive of adopting technology from western Europe. Unlike OTL, Russia is already building quite a few railroads and modern factories by around 1860. Alexander also becomes fascinated by the idea of expanding Russia’s power eastward, from Central Asia to the Pacific. His example sets the tone for future Russian rulers. He also becomes convinced that traditional serfdom must end, but is never sure enough to actually end it.


Mexican province of Alto California becomes the independent Republic of California in an agreement mediated by the British that avoids an open war. California gets OTL Nevada and most of Utah as well. Mexican citizens are given full rights to settle in and participate in the economy of California.

1853 – Britain reorganizes its North American Colonies – Four main colonies are set up, Canada, Nova Scotia, Missouri, and Oregon. Each has its own Parliament, although with limited powers.


1855-1858 North American War pits Britain and Mexico against Louisiana, the ISA, and the USA. The war begins largely due to anger in the slaveholding ISA and Louisiana that British and Mexican territory was becoming a refuge for fugitive slaves. The USA joins later due to a variety of disputes with Britain. The war itself surprises both sides with the number of casualties – all troops are now using rifles with Whittaker bullets (OTL Minie balls) but using old tactics appropriate to the old, much less accurate smoothbores. Breechloaders and even a couple of repeat-action rifle designs appear towards the end of the war. Railroads used to a limited extent to move troops, but a lot of the fighting takes place in areas with few or no rails. ISA and Louisana use lightly armored gunboats against the British, but not with any spectacular results. The only substantial change in territory is the US losing much of OTL Wisconsin to the British. There are minor territorial adjustments elsewhere.



1858 – 1861 Second Egyptian-Ottoman War Ottomans supported by British, Egyptians supported by France. The immediate cause of the war is a dispute over who controls the isthmus of Suez, and whether British or French-owned companies will construct a canal there. Khedive of Egypt declares himself a fully independent Sultan. Early Egyptian victories are reversed, and the Ottomans win control of the disputed land. Also, Ottomans eliminate Egyptian presence in the Hejaz (western Arabian peninsula) and take firm control of Mecca and Medina. This war reinforces many of the lessons of North American war, but also sees the first use of heavily armored ships (by the British).

1859 – Federal States of America passes restrictive immigration laws, largely designed to restrict Catholic immigration

1861 – Uprising in Naples forces the King to grant a Constitution


1862 – France takes Algeria as a “protectorate”. France’s ally Egypt does something similar with Tripoli in Libya.

Lousiana and Texas join together to form a confederation.

1863-64 – Prussia and a couple of smaller German states defeat Denmark in a war that turns out to be surprisingly hard-fought. Schleswig and Holstein are detached from Denmark and join the North German Customs Union. This war also sees the first major use of balloons for reconnaissance.

1865 – Colorado Republic declares its independence from Mexico. Mexico undergoing a period of internal unrest and recognizes the new republic’s independence after a few small skirmishes

1866-68 – Paraguay conquered and partitioned between Brazil and Rio de la Plata (OTL Argentina)

1867 – Russian naval forces pressure Japan into opening trade with the outside world.

1868 – Suez Canal completed by British-Ottoman company

1869 – Brazilian government announces gradual abolition of slavery beginning in 1870. Attempted coup by slaveholder-backed forces is put down.

1869 – Work begins in Russia on the ambitious project of building a railroad all the way across Siberia to link Russia’s bases on the Pacific with European Russia

1870-73 China War – Conservative faction of China’s government attempts to end all trading privileges by outsiders, provoking a general war against several outside powers. Britain, France, Russia, North German Confederation, Austria, Japan, Spain, FSA, USA, Mexico, and California all send expeditionary forces against China. Largest contingent is sent by Russia, followed by Britain. Modest Chinese military reforms still leave a military much less effective than its enemies. China’s military is also inexperienced except against localized rebellions (no Taiping rebellion in this timeline). When the war is over, China is still officially a sovereign nation, but effectively divided into spheres of influence that almost amount to protectorates. Russia’s sphere is largest – Manchuria and most of northern and western China, including the capital of Beijing. Britain has the dominant sphere of influence further south.


1873 – France purchases Portugal’s African colonies at Angola and Mozanbique

1875 – Major worldwide recession causes labor unrest in Europe and North America. Repression of the unrest is especially fierce in the Federal States of America.

1876 - Laws are passed in the FSA taking the right to vote away from anyone who participates in an illegal strike.

First Imperial Parliament of the Austrian Empire meets in Vienna. Many had wanted a federal parliament, with the Empire being divided into several states such as Austria, Bohemia, and Hungary, but the Emperor insists on a single, unified assembly for the entire realm.


1876-77 – Japanese Civil War between supporters of the pro-Russian Shogun faction and the pro-British Imperial faction. The Shogun faction is victorious. The current Emperor is forced to abdicate and is replaced by a relative. From this point onward, Japan looks to Russia as its main ally and foreign partner.

1878 – Kingdom of Hawaii signs treaty of alliance and trade with Great Britain

Russia tests world’s first rigid airship (what would be called a zeppelin in OTL). Existing steam-powered engines are heavy and underpowered, so it is not very effective for the time being.

1879 – The Netherlands establishes bases near the mouth of the Congo River in central Africa, and begins pushing inland.

In the ISA, the states of Maryland, Delaware, and Kentucky begin programs of gradual emancipation.

A French company begins digging a canal through the isthmus of Panama.

1880 – First Capetown Conference – British authorities in the Cape Colony sign agreements with Afrikaner leaders of the Transvaal and Orange Free state in which both sides agree on boundaries and to cooperate against French encroachment from Mozambique and Angola.

Incandescent light bulbs first developed in France. Over the next few years they become fairly common in all of the world’s industrialized nations.

1881 – Russia completes the Moscow-to-Alexandrograd or “Trans-Siberian” railroad

Zulu kingdom, the last major native kingdom between the British Cape Colony and the two Afrikaner republics, is defeated by joint British and Afrikaner forces. Its lands are partitioned.

1882 – Dominions Government Act reorganizes the governments of Britain’s settler colonies overseas – Canada, Missouri, Oregon, Australia, New Zealand, and Cape Colony. Newfoundland and Nova Scotia are included in Canada.

French canal project in Panama is put on hold due to heavy losses from disease, unexpected engineering problems, and lack of funds.

Discovery of gold and diamonds in Transvaal and Orange Free State, in southern Africa.

1884 – With Russian support, Japan gains the Chinese island of Taiwan as a protectorate

1885 – France and the Netherlands sign a formal military alliance. The exact provisions remain a closely guarded secret, but leaders in every other country understand the general idea. The Netherlands has had increasingly poor relations with Great Britain due to a series of colonial disputes about boundaries on the islands of Borneo and Sumatra, and in Guiana in South America. This alliance takes the British by surprise and precipitates a vote of no confidence. This triggers a general election that brings a new government to power that pursues a more aggressive foreign policy.

1886 – British authorities in India sign an alliance with the ruler of Afghanistan. Several Russian-supported rebellions by disaffected tribes in Afghanistan over the next 20 years will be suppressed with British help.

1887 – Second Capetown Conference. British and Afrikaner representatives reaffirm their earlier agreements and extend these agreements to cover issues raised by the vast mineral wealth that is now being mined in the two Afrikaner republics. The agreement is opposed by quite a few Afrikaners, but is ratified by slim majorities in both republics by 1888. French and Dutch representatives attempt to bolster opposition to the agreements, but very few people are prepared to start a civil war within the Afrikaner republics at this time.

French restart their Panama Canal project, this time armed with the knowledge that the deadly malaria epidemics are being spread by mosquitoes. New measures for mosquito control greatly reduce the disease rate, and the project goes forward.

1888 – North German Confederation formed from the states of the old North German Customs Union. The King of Prussia becomes Emperor of this new confederation. (German nationalism is not as strong as in OTL, and there has been no Bismarck or an equivalent figure to really push for unification under Prussian leadership. The greatest motivation for forming the Confederation is actually fear of France and the Netherlands to the west and Russia to the east, none of whom are on good terms with Prussia or most of the other northern German states.)

1889 – Rail network linking several major cities in the Ottoman Empire – Durazzo, Salonika, Istanbul, Damascus, Jerusalem, and Baghdad. Other branching lines will be added in the years to come, reaching to Mecca, Basra, and to the frontier with Russia in the northeast.
 

Straha

Banned
heres the map for those who can't see it

this timeline kicks ass

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Here is another map ...

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A few notes of explanation for the map and the timeline-

China is still technically self governing, but it is divided into spheres of influence which are indicated by striped lines. The nations with large spheres of influence in China are Russia, Great Britain, the Netherlands, and France. Japan has a smaller sphere that at this time is confined to the island of Taiwan. In these areas their merchants and missionaries have trade privileges and extraterritorial rights beyond what was seen in OTL. These nations also have the right to station military garrisons in various areas.


Compared to OTL, Russia is quite a bit more industrialized. It is also highly nationalistic and miltaristic with the government supporting a Russian-Slavic nationalism to a greater degree even than in OTL. The Tsar's government retains strong central powers, but some local and city government functions have been turned over to local councils. In 1890, Tsar Peter IV is preparing to call a national assembly, the Zemskiy Sobor.

From the 1850s, Russia focused much more strongly on developing power in the east and the Pacific than the Russia of OTL. By 1890, Russia has a Trans-Siberian railroad, a more developed Siberia, and a large Pacific fleet. Russia dominates the northern part of China. Japan is an ally, with a tacit understanding that Japan will seek expansion to the south with Russia's support in return for not trying to challenge Russia's influence in northern China or Siberia. Alaska is also more devloped than OTL, although it is also gaining a reputation as a dumping ground for political undesirables and a refuge for Russians who don't agree with the policies of the government.

Britain is economically even stronger, and it's empire even richer, than in OTL. In addition to the red Dominions, territories, and colonies shown on the map, it has a huge sphere of influence in China and a number of foreign countries that have strong economic, political, and even military ties to Britain. The greatest of these foreign allies is the Ottoman Empire, which has been immensely assisted in its efforts at modernization by huge British investments, while Britain's military power has helped to support the Ottomans against threats from Russia to the north and French-backed Egypt to the south. By 1890, the Ottoman Empire is seeing greater and greater prosperity and has developed a pretty strong commercial and industrial base and transportation infrastructure of its own.

Other countries that are allied with Great Britain or at least favorably disposed include the Federal States of America and California in North America, Brazil in South America, Transvaal, Orange Free State, and Abyssinia in Africa, and Afghanistan and Siam in Asia.

France is a constitutional monarchy with a strong legislature. It is still under the Orleanist descendants of Louis Philippe, who became King in 1830. Neither France nor most of the rest of Europe experienced the revolutions of 1848 that happened in OTL. Just enough political concessions were made to stave off more radical demands for change in most countries. France is politically more stable (and more conservative) and slighly more prosperous economically than the 1890 France of OTL.

The Netherlands still includes Belgium in this timeline. By the later 19th century, tensions between Protestants and Catholics, Flemish and French speakers faded away in the face of rising economic prosperity. In 1890, the Netherlands has an advanced industrial economy, a fairly large navy, and an extensive list of overseas territories.

Russia, France, and the Netherlands at first seem to have little in common, but a common rivalry and hostility toward Britain have drawn the 3 countries together by 1890.
 
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Aussey said:
Why dont Prussia and Austria have colonies though?
Well, in some of the more implausible timelines (including one of my least favorites, I believe its called "Reality"), the Germans never really got into the colonial thing that much. :p
 

Thande

Donor
This exchange from Blackadder sums it up nicely (they are discussing the reasons for WWI):

George: I thought it was all about the conquering Hun and his evil empire!
Blackadder: George, the British Empire covers a quarter of the globe, whereas the German Empire consists of two small sausage factories in Tanganyika. I hardly think we are blameless there.
 
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