American Elections

If you were allowed to vote in any (or every) election in American history, who would you vote for? P.S. You can also vote in Primaries.

1789 / 1792 – Washington. Who else?

1796 / 1800 – Adams. Did a good job OTL. Avoided war.

1804 – Pinckney. Not a chance of winning, but still.

1808 – Madison. Reluctantly…

1812 – Clinton. End or avoid that goddamned pointless war.

1816 / 1820 – Monroe. Somewhat reluctantly.

1824 / 1828 – Adams. Don’t really like Jackson. Maybe Clay instead.

1832 – Clay. Excellent statesman and compromiser.

1836 – Daniel Webster. I’m originally from Massachusetts. Enough said.

1840 – Van Buren. Not a fan of John Tyler. Thus, no point electing Harrison just to die.

1844 – Polk. One of our greatest (and most underrated Presidents), IMHO.

1848 – Cass. Not a fan of Fillmore. Thus, no point electing Taylor.

1852 – Scott. A good war hero.

1856 – Buchanan. Fremont wasn’t quite all there…

1860 – Bell. A compromise candidate. Hopefully, avoid the Civil War. Slavery’s going to die anyways.

1864 – Lincoln. Either the Civil War has started or is going to now.

1868 – Seymour. Grant was a good guy. Bad President.

1872 – Greeley. Again, see above.

1876 – Tilden. Couldn’t have been less memorable than Hayes.

1880 – Weaver. I like Populists. His ideas are those in place now, anyways.

1884 – Blaine, I guess. Doesn’t make a difference really.

1888 – Not worth voting.

1892 – Weaver. Again.

1896 / 1900 – McKinley. Stay the hell away from Bryan.

1904 – Roosevelt. Great President. Who cares if he’s imperialist?

1908 – Taft. Stay the hell away from Bryan.

1912 – Wilson. TR’s a little nutty by now. Don’t want US in WWI in 1912.

1916 – Hughes. Chance of keeping us out of WWI. Better chance than Wilson anyways.

1920 – Cox. Will do better than Harding.

1924 – Coolidge. Didn’t do a bad job. Wasn’t memorable.

1928 / 1932 – Hoover. Not really his fault.

1936 – Langdon. I don’t like FDR. Didn’t warn American troops before Pearl Harbor. Too trusting of Uncle Joe.

1940 – Wilkie. See above.

1944 / 1948 – Dewey. Don’t want Truman getting elected. Don’t want Truman to fire MacArthur.

1952 / 1956 – Eisenhower. Adlai was a good man, but too liberal.

1960 – Nixon. Anything’s better than Kennedy.

1964 – Goldwater. A good, honest man. Would have dealt with Vietnam the way it should’ve been dealt with.

1968 – Anyone (Nixon or Wallace) other than that nut Johnson. The man gave an interview while having a colonoscopy. Enough Said.

1972 / 1976 – Nixon. Did a good job, no matter what his character was like.

1980 /1984 – Reagan. Yuck. I don’t like either. Maybe Anderson.

1988 – I’d rather kill myself than vote for either of these assholes. Anyone remember the ridiculous commercial of Dukakis in a tank?

1992 / 1996 – Clinton. Did a good job, no matter what his character was like.

2000 GOP Primary – McCain. Much better than man than that idiot, Bush.

2000 – Gore. Bush is a disaster. I don’t even know where to start.



Anyone else want to give it a shot?

Advice.

You should post the candidates and what they stood for, where they were from. I probably would have voted against Madison but I can't remember who he was running against. I just remember that Madison was a southerner and didn't want a big enough navy to defend our northern merchant marine.
As for Gore vs Bush, I (FLAME ALERT hate the l_ t_ c_ m_ t_ s_ Republicans END FLAME ALERT) but what would Gore have done differently? The stock market crash was going to happen anyway, given that Greenspan had to bust the bubble to get a Republican elected. Even if they had had a free election in Florida it wasn't going to change American foreign policy fast enough and far enough to avoid Al Queda taking out the two towers, so why blame Bush?
I grant that President Gore is doing a good job in that he has declared no wars, increased no taxes, and signed no laws, but that isn't his choice. He would be just as bad as Bush if he was acknowledged as President.

wkwillis said:

You should post the candidates and what they stood for, where they were from. I probably would have voted against Madison but I can't remember who he was running against.

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I don't have the time nor the knowledge to go through that many elections in depth. This link will show you who they all ran against. I have no idea what some of the early ones stood for, only what their parties stood for.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/

wkwillis said:

why blame Bush?

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Although Gore couldn't have stopped the attacks, he would not have lowered taxes for the wealthy and he would not have gotten the US and Britain in a needless war against Iraq. That's why I blame Bush.

1789 - Washington

1792 – Washington

1796 - Jefferson

1800 – Jefferson

1804 – Jefferson

1808 – Madison

1812 – Madison

1816 - Monroe

1820 – Monroe

1824 - Jackson

1828 – Jackson

1832 – Jackson

1836 – Webster

1840 – Harrison

1844 – Polk

1848 – Taylor

1852 – Pierce

1856 – Fremont

1860 – Bell

1864 – Lincoln

1868 – Seymour

1872 – Greeley (who dies before the electors vote, so now what?)

1876 – Hayes

1880 – Hancock

1884 – Blaine

1888 – Cleveland (?)

1892 – Cleveland (?)

1896 – McKinley

1900 - McKinley

1904 – Roosevelt

1908 – Taft

1912 – Wilson

1916 – Wilson

1920 – Cox

1924 – Coolidge

1928 - Smith

1932 – Roosevelt

1936 – Roosevelt

1940 – Roosevelt

1944 - Roosevelt

1948 – Truman

1952 - Stevenson

1956 – Stevenson

1960 – Kennedy

1964 – Johnson

1968 – Johnson

1972 - McGovern i suppose

1976 – Carter

1980 - Carter i suppose

1984 – Mondale

1988 – Dukakis

1992 - Clinton

1996 – Clinton

2000 – Gore

And in 2004 I'll miss out in voting by 12 days

Walter_Kaufmann said:

I don't have the time nor the knowledge to go through that many elections in depth. This link will show you who they all ran against. I have no idea what some of the early ones stood for, only what their parties stood for.

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http://search.eb.com/elections/etable1.html

has both a list of every candidate for each election and clickable links on the parties to explain them

Grey Wolf

Walter_Kaufmann said:

1796 / 1800 – Adams. Did a good job OTL. Avoided war.

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The only reason there was a threat of war was due to Federalist provocation anyways; and besides..coughcough*Quasi-War*coughcough...

Thread Necromancy!

Ian, can you please move this to chat?

emperorharry86 said:

1972 - McGovern i suppose


And in 2004 I'll miss out in voting by 12 days

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McGovern! The only major presidential cantidate in American History who's idea of peace negiotiations would have made Neville Chamberlin cry "Paltroon!"?

Wow. I'm really glad the American people didn't agree with this choice. I hate vodka & Cryllic letters make me dizzy.

1789 / 1792 – Washington

1796 / 1800 – Adams

1804 – Pinckney

1808 – Madison

1812 – Clinton

1816 / 1820 – Monroe

1824 / 1828 – Jackson

1832 – Clay

1836 – Daniel Webster

1840 – Van buren

1844 – Polk

1848 – Cass

1852 – Scott

1856 – Fremont

1860 – Douglas

1864 – Lincoln

1868 – Seymour

1872 – Greeley

1876 – Tilden

1880 – Weaver

1884 – Blaine

1888 – garfield

1892 – Weaver

1896 / 1900 – McKinley

1904 – TR

1908 – Taft

1912 – TR

1916 – Hughes

1920 – Cox

1924 – Coolidge

1928 - Smith

1932 – FDR

1936 – FDR

1940 – Wilkie

1944 / 1948 – Dewey

1952 / 1956 – Eisenhower

1960 – Nixon

1964 – Goldwater

1968 – Nixon

1972 – Nixon

1976- Ford

1980- Anderson

1984 – Reagan

1988 – Dukakis

1992 / 1996 – Clinton.

2000 – Gore.

2004- Kerry

Beck Reilly said:

I don't have the time nor the knowledge to go through that many elections in depth. This link will show you who they all ran against. I have no idea what some of the early ones stood for, only what their parties stood for.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/




Although Gore couldn't have stopped the attacks, he would not have lowered taxes for the wealthy and he would not have gotten the US and Britain in a needless war against Iraq. That's why I blame Bush.

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I'm sure the French were avoiding a needless war in 1938 too

CalBear said:

McGovern! The only major presidential cantidate in American History who's idea of peace negiotiations would have made Neville Chamberlin cry "Paltroon!"?

Wow. I'm really glad the American people didn't agree with this choice. I hate vodka & Cryllic letters make me dizzy.

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McGovern was a combat veteran from World War II. Nixon was a noncombat veteran from World War II. Nixon surrendered in Vietnam in 1970 when he pulled our troops out and left the Vietnamese on their own with that corrupt nondemocratic government in charge so they had no chance at all. McGovern would have given South Vietnam a democratic government and maybe they would have made it.
We'll never know, will we?

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1789: Washington probably
1792: Clinton
1796: Jefferson
1800: Jefferson
1804: Jefferson
1808: Madison
1812: Madison
1816: Monroe
1820: Monroe
1824: Clay/Jackson
1828: Jackson
1832: Jackson
1836: Van Buren
1840: Van Buren
1844: Polk probably
1848: Cass
1852: Pierce
1856: Fillmore possibly
1860: Breckinridge
1864: Lincoln
1868: Seymour
1872: Greeley
1876: Tilden
1880: Weaver (Pop)
1884: St. John (Pr)
1888: Fisk (Pr)
1892: Weaver (Pop)
1896: Bryan
1900: Bryan
1904: Swallow (Pr)
1908: Bryan
1912: Chafin (Pr)
1916: Hanly (Pr)
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Hoover
1932: Hoover
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman possibly Thurmond (SR)
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Decker (Pr) or Faubus (SR)
1964: Goldwater
1968: Wallace (AI)
1972: Nixon
1976: Maddox (AI)
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Clinton
2000: Bush
2004: Bush

Democrats (primarily) until the late 1800s. Prohibition/Populists until the Twenties where I would vote for prosperity. New Deal/Southern Democrat until Nixon/Reagan. GOP from there out (except for 1996).

heres my revised list

1789 / 1792 – Washington

1796 / 1800 – Adams

1804 – Pinckney

1808 – Madison

1812 – Clinton

1816 / 1820 – Monroe

1824 / 1828 – Jackson

1832 – Clay

1836 – Daniel Webster

1840 – Van buren

1844 – Polk

1848 – Cass

1852 – Scott

1856 – Fremont

1860 – Douglas

1864 – Lincoln

1868 – Seymour

1872 – Greeley

1876 – Tilden

1880 – Weaver

1884 – Blaine

1888 – garfield

1892 – Weaver

1896 / 1900 – McKinley

1904 – TR

1908 – Taft

1912 – the republican nonentity that ran that year

1916 – Hughes

1920 – Cox

1924 – Coolidge

1928 - Smith

1932 – FDR

1936 – FDR

1940 – Wilkie

1944 / 1948 – Dewey

1952 / 1956 – Eisenhower

1960 – Nixon

GOP Primaries- Rockefeller

1964 – Goldwater

GOP Primaries- Rockefeller

1968 – Nixon

GOP Primaries- Rockefeller

1972 – Nixon

1976- Ford

Democrat primaries- Brown

1980- Anderson

1984 – Reagan

1988 – Dukakis

1992 / 1996 – Clinton.

democrat primairies- Brown

2000 – Gore.

2004- Kerry

Democrat primairies- Dean

Wildcard said:

1796: Jefferson
1800: Jefferson
1804: Jefferson

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Why Jefferson? As founding fathers went, he was certainly among the more hypocritical.

"I believe slavery is wrong, but I will glady have affairs with them and decide not to free my slaves after I die. I will also do nothing in my position as governor of Virginia or as President to oppose it."

How come everyone's voted for Goldwater in 1964? He would've got America involved in 'nam in even greater numbers than Johnson did (I don't know what yardstick you're using but I do not consider that a good thing). As well as that, many of his comments were a little...barmey.

Ah heck, why am I even offering an opinion? I'm not even American...

Rasputin said:

How come everyone's voted for Goldwater in 1964? He would've got America involved in 'nam in even greater numbers than Johnson did (I don't know what yardstick you're using but I do not consider that a good thing). As well as that, many of his comments were a little...barmey.

Ah heck, why am I even offering an opinion? I'm not even American...

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The great society and affirmative action. enough said.

Faeelin - Adams & Burr are horrible. Jefferson was much superior to them and his ideology was much superior also.

Rasputin - The difference between the two is how committed they were to victory in Vietnam. I'd rather have 500,000 troops committed to victory in a nation, than have 100,000 under poor leadership with no goals.

Wildcard said:

Faeelin - Adams & Burr are horrible. Jefferson was much superior to them and his ideology was much superior also.

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What part of Jefferson's ideology was superior to Adams? The belief in a government that failed to encourage industry? The belief in a weak military?

If Greeley kicked the bucket shortly after the 1872 elections, wouldn't the Vice President-elect become President? I think it was B. Gratz Brown.

What does everyone have against Hayes? Most of you selected Tilden.