Iberia still Muslim

Inspired by another thread, I wondered, most countries that go Muslim stay Muslim. What was different about Spain and Portugal? What if they were still Muslim?

tom said:

Inspired by another thread, I wondered, most countries that go Muslim stay Muslim. What was different about Spain and Portugal? What if they were still Muslim?

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Reconquista (sp?) is what was different with Spain, it was conquered by the Muslims, then reconquered by the Christians. It was not a very good era to be living in Spain. I think if Spain stayed Muslim, we could see a closer knit Christian community of Europe, armies from France and Britain might actually go to Constantinople to keep the Muslims from conquering all of Europe. I can see a tenth crusade being called to expel the Muslims from Europe.

What do you mean by tenth?

Faeelin said:

What do you mean by tenth?

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To coincide with the previous 9, although not all of the took place in Europe, I think the 5th, 6th, and maybe the 7th did. The Crusades arent my strong suit.

The Muslims didn't have a habit of expelling their Jews. If the Iberian Muslims remained fairly enlightened, no total expulsion as in 1492. Less Sefardi Jews in the Maghreb. A population of around 2 million Iberian Jews by 1948, who are expelled to Israel by an Islamified "General Mustafa Franco" (Franco in OTL was of Jewish Marranno extraction, explaining why despite being a Fascist he saved 50,000 duing the Holocaust - his offer to help many more was turned down) in 1949.

Umm. A muslim iberia has a hell of a lot of effects way before 1948.

with iberia being islamic expect the balkans,the caucus and possibly russia to go islamic

SurfNTurfStraha said:

with iberia being islamic expect the balkans,the caucus and possibly russia to go islamic

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What? How does the survival of al-andalus make the orthodox christians decide to become muslim? (Given that al-andalus was viable until 1086, well psat the date of rus conversion).