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Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2002 - 09:38 pm:
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Here is a time line I've been working on the combines as many of the current topics as possible.
1933:Zangara kills FDR. In OTL he missed because being short he was standing on a wobbly old chair to see over the crowd. In the ATL he finds something more stable to stand on, or puts something under the chair leg to stop it moving or somebody takes pity on the little foreigner and holds the chair steady.
1933-1936: Jack Garner's years as president. Garner was a backroom mover and shaker he pushs through his reforms without consulting or informing the public. ie no FDR style fireside chats. Riots and protests breakout all over the country. Republicans are blamed for starting the depression but the Democrates can't seem to fix it where can the voters turn. A cabal of industrialists & financalists who in OTL planned to topple FDR by force realize they can achieve power legally with the right candidate. They recruit Charles Lindbergh to run for President with twice medal of honour retire marine general Smedly Butler as VP.
1937-1940 Lindbergh's first term effects on USA
1. All strikes and unions are banned.
2. All major and most minor cities build paved airport.
3. All airport are partly controlled by armed forces army, airforce national guards etc.
4. Funding of long range transport planes to move troops acroos the country to put down civil disturbances.
5. Non alliance isolationist policy.
1940: VP Butler dies but Lindbergh still wins second term USA is world leader in aviation because of government funding research. about 4-5 years ahead of OTL
effects on the rest of the world
Without the covert backing of FDR in its war with Hitler Britain is more include talk with anti Nazi germans. They also buy a lot of airplanes & parts from US factories via Canada. With a communication channel open to Britain Rudolf Hess doesn't feel the need to fly there and is still deputy fuerer.Hitler invades Russia the same as in OTL.
Japan seizes the chance to take over european colonies in south east asia while their military are involved against germany. The only place standing in their way to total control of S-E Asia is the the Phillipines. The attack on Pearl Harbour occurs. In this time line the japanese are even more sure that they can stalemate or beat the US as it has not been spending as much on the navy as in OTL.
Big mistake for twelve days after the attack Colonel Doolittle takes off from San Diego with flight of 24 long range transport plane modified for bombing and with extra fuel tanks. The squadron refuels in Hawaii and has already lost 3 planes. By the time they sight the japanese island they number 16 they split in two. Eight planes to bomb Toyko and eight to bomb the navy base they believe the attackers of Pearl Harbour came from. Fewer still make it to mainland China and only four finally make it to Manila after refueling. One of these takes General Macarthur south to safety in Australia.
Hitler who was an admirer of Lindbergh and even awarded him a medal for his flying achievements holds off declaring war on the USA before "tragically" dying in plane crash flying back from inspecting the troops. (the british supply the german resistance with a better detonator for their bottle bomb.) After a three way power struggle between the SS, Gestapo and the army Hess is recognised by all sides as the new Fuerer. A truce is called between Britain and Germany as they negotiate terms for peace. Both sides are not serious about it but need the breahing space to fight other enemies. Britain the japanese and Germany the Russians.
With British Naval power and American air superiority by 1944 the Japanese are pushed back to the home island and bombed into surrender.Germany pushes the Russians east over the Urals but can go no farther. Italy is not part of peace talks and supplied by with german weapons causes so0me trouble in north africa until Monty kicks them out of Ethiopia. The Pacific or Japanese war has forged a new a bond between the USA and the UK at its close Germany fearing an attack from both and having trouble controling the vaste territories it now owns hasterly winds up the peace treaty.
1945 The New World Order
Axis powers control most of mainland europe from the Atlantic coast to the Urals and the Baltic sea to the Mediterranean.
Communist powers control the lands east of the Urals to the South China sea. With most of the Stalinist leaders dead in the great retreat they are more united in ther beliefs.
Ho Chi Mihn declared Vietnam independent when the japanese surrendered. With France still under the control of Germany the US & UK ignore its protests and recognise the new nation.
Heavy tarrifs are placed on British goods in Europe freezing them out of the market. This forces them to depend more on cross Atlantic trade. in 1946 in joins with Canada and the USA in NATO (North Alantic Trade Organization)
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2002 - 09:38 pm:
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Here is a time line I've been working on the combines as many of the current topics as possible.
1933:Zangara kills FDR. In OTL he missed because being short he was standing on a wobbly old chair to see over the crowd. In the ATL he finds something more stable to stand on, or puts something under the chair leg to stop it moving or somebody takes pity on the little foreigner and holds the chair steady.
1933-1936: Jack Garner's years as president. Garner was a backroom mover and shaker he pushs through his reforms without consulting or informing the public. ie no FDR style fireside chats. Riots and protests breakout all over the country. Republicans are blamed for starting the depression but the Democrates can't seem to fix it where can the voters turn. A cabal of industrialists & financalists who in OTL planned to topple FDR by force realize they can achieve power legally with the right candidate. They recruit Charles Lindbergh to run for President with twice medal of honour retire marine general Smedly Butler as VP.
1937-1940 Lindbergh's first term effects on USA
1. All strikes and unions are banned.
2. All major and most minor cities build paved airport.
3. All airport are partly controlled by armed forces army, airforce national guards etc.
4. Funding of long range transport planes to move troops acroos the country to put down civil disturbances.
5. Non alliance isolationist policy.
1940: VP Butler dies but Lindbergh still wins second term USA is world leader in aviation because of government funding research. about 4-5 years ahead of OTL
effects on the rest of the world
Without the covert backing of FDR in its war with Hitler Britain is more include talk with anti Nazi germans. They also buy a lot of airplanes & parts from US factories via Canada. With a communication channel open to Britain Rudolf Hess doesn't feel the need to fly there and is still deputy fuerer.Hitler invades Russia the same as in OTL.
Japan seizes the chance to take over european colonies in south east asia while their military are involved against germany. The only place standing in their way to total control of S-E Asia is the the Phillipines. The attack on Pearl Harbour occurs. In this time line the japanese are even more sure that they can stalemate or beat the US as it has not been spending as much on the navy as in OTL.
Big mistake for twelve days after the attack Colonel Doolittle takes off from San Diego with flight of 24 long range transport plane modified for bombing and with extra fuel tanks. The squadron refuels in Hawaii and has already lost 3 planes. By the time they sight the japanese island they number 16 they split in two. Eight planes to bomb Toyko and eight to bomb the navy base they believe the attackers of Pearl Harbour came from. Fewer still make it to mainland China and only four finally make it to Manila after refueling. One of these takes General Macarthur south to safety in Australia.
Hitler who was an admirer of Lindbergh and even awarded him a medal for his flying achievements holds off declaring war on the USA before "tragically" dying in plane crash flying back from inspecting the troops. (the british supply the german resistance with a better detonator for their bottle bomb.) After a three way power struggle between the SS, Gestapo and the army Hess is recognised by all sides as the new Fuerer. A truce is called between Britain and Germany as they negotiate terms for peace. Both sides are not serious about it but need the breahing space to fight other enemies. Britain the japanese and Germany the Russians.
With British Naval power and American air superiority by 1944 the Japanese are pushed back to the home island and bombed into surrender.Germany pushes the Russians east over the Urals but can go no farther. Italy is not part of peace talks and supplied by with german weapons causes so0me trouble in north africa until Monty kicks them out of Ethiopia. The Pacific or Japanese war has forged a new a bond between the USA and the UK at its close Germany fearing an attack from both and having trouble controling the vaste territories it now owns hasterly winds up the peace treaty.
1945 The New World Order
Axis powers control most of mainland europe from the Atlantic coast to the Urals and the Baltic sea to the Mediterranean.
Communist powers control the lands east of the Urals to the South China sea. With most of the Stalinist leaders dead in the great retreat they are more united in ther beliefs.
Ho Chi Mihn declared Vietnam independent when the japanese surrendered. With France still under the control of Germany the US & UK ignore its protests and recognise the new nation.
Heavy tarrifs are placed on British goods in Europe freezing them out of the market. This forces them to depend more on cross Atlantic trade. in 1946 in joins with Canada and the USA in NATO (North Alantic Trade Organization)