AH Challenge: Longer-Lasting Barbary Pirates

Corsairs (Muslim pirates) operating out of North Africa were the terror of the Mediterranean (and elsewhere...a Lutheran preacher and his family were once abducted from Iceland) for several centuries. They raided European shipping and even coastal Europe, and at one point, collectively had one million European slaves (many lighter-skinned North Africans are supposedly their descendants). The Catholic Church had a specific order dedicated to ransoming prisoners; one famous prisoner of the pirates was Cervantes.

Due to their usefulness as potential military allies, most European states preferred to pay them not to bother their shipping. It took two wars in the early 1800s for them to stop molesting US shipping; the Europeans paid tribute until the 1830s. However, increasing international intolerance of piracy and European conquest of Northern Africa put an end to their shenanigans.

How late can we keep the Barbary pirates in business? Bonus points if you can get them into the 20th Century as "rogue states". Mucho bonus if you can come up with a unified North African pirate empire; a Muslim equivalent of Gaiseric the Vandal's.

Have fun!
 
Interesting idea

I don't have an answer to your challenge but do have a question.

How much slave trade was there running the other way. Although not as well-known, North Africans (presumably of Mediterranean complexion) were occassionally captured and enslaved by Christians. Leo Africanus is the most famous example, and supposedly there was another Maghrebi enslaved by the Spaniards who went on to become the first Muslim prosyletizer in Mexico.

Anybody know on what scale this slave trade took place and when it was ended?
 

Leo Caesius

Banned
raharris1973 said:
I don't have an answer to your challenge but do have a question.
How much slave trade was there running the other way. Although not as well-known, North Africans (presumably of Mediterranean complexion) were occassionally captured and enslaved by Christians.
Anybody know on what scale this slave trade took place and when it was ended?
The Trans-Saharan route was initially the very lifeline of the African slave trade, until the Portuguese and the Spaniards found a way around the North Africans, who were acting as middlemen. For the most part, the slaves traded were Subsaharan Africans. The Atlantic slave trade took the wind out of the Trans-Saharan slave trade's sails, but it didn't really end until the Dey of Algiers impetuously struck the French ambassador with his fly-whisk, whereupon the French first invaded Algeria, and subsequently annexed it outright in 1842.

St. Benedict the Black, who was born in Sicily in the first half of the 16th century, was the son of two African slaves. He eventually gained his freedom and joined a group of Franciscan hermits near Palermo. Today he is the patron saint of African missions and African Americans.

North Africa was also home to the longest lasting pidgin language, the Lingua Franca or Sabir; the slave trade often gives rise to contact languages, but few are as ancient or as long attested as this one. Here's a dialogue from the Dictionnaire de la langue franque ou petit mauresque (ca. 1830):

bon dgiorno Signor. - "Good day sir."
commé ti star? - "How are you?"
mi star bonou, é ti. - "I am well. And you?"
mi star contento mirar per ti. - "I am happy to see you."
gratzia. - "Thank you."
mi poudir servir per ti per qoualké cosa? - "Can I serve you something?"
mouchou gratzia. - "Thank you very much."
ti dar una cadiera al Signor. - "Give a chair to the gentleman."
non bisogna. mi star bene acoussi. - "There is no need. I am fine like this."
commé star il fratello di ti? - "How is your brother?"
star mouchou bonou. - "He is very well."
E il padré de ti commé star? - "And how is your father?"
non star bouonou. - "He is not well."
cosa tenir. - "What is the matter with him?"
tenir febra. - "He has a fever."
dispiacher mouchou per mi. - "I am very sorry."
molto temp ti non mirato Signor M.? - "Have you not seen Mr. M for a long time?"
mi mirato iéri. - "I saw him yesterday."
star bouona genti. - "He is a good man."
quando ti mirar per ellou, saloutar moucho per la parté de me. - "When you see him, greet him warmly from me."
Adios amigo. - "Goodbye, friend."
 
Leo,

Wow, that's very interesting. Perhaps I'll copy that into one of my files somewhere...if I ever write a story set in that time, that could be helpful.
 
A rough concept

As the Napoleonic Wars rage across Europe, the USA brings the Barbary pirates under control as in OTL. Meanwhile, the wars are grinding down to a stalemate. The wars are hurting American shipping enough that Congress votes funds for more light warships—sloops and a few small frigates join the 44’s. Each of them is built along the same general idea as the 44’s—expensive, but high quality ships. The quasi-war with France gives the Europeans a taste of American ship quality, and France backs down from harassing American shipping.
Trade with Britain continues for a time, although British impressment of American sailors is a continuing problem. Trade with North Africa soon begins to show a profit—the Barbary states have learned well that America isn’t at war—and will happily send another fleet if need be, but would rather trade.
By 1812, the Barbary powers are thriving with Europe at war.
When the War of 1812 breaks out, at first it goes mostly as in OTL—but Britain can’t manage to win the European war, and the USN has a few more minor victories at sea. Even more than in OTL, the war will be remembered by so many Americans as the war in which the USA humbled the Royal Navy, even though this isn’t the case at all.
The British decide to attack on New York to force the Americans to negotiate. The attack turns into a fiasco, as the wind dies, and the steam battleship Demologos destroys or captures the invasion force. (Demologos really existed, and IMHO, would be well able to devastate a sailing force in calm waters with no wind. Hot shot is nasty!)
The battles of New Orleans and New York are very costly—especially New York, with several ships of the line gone—and two flying the stars and stripes now.
In mid 1815, the two nations come to terms and sign the Treaty of Ghent..
All seized lands are returned, including certain chunks of Canada snatched in the spring of 1815. Britain also agrees that US ships have the right to trade wherever they see fit, provided the port is not under a formally declared blockade. (This clause will have SERIOUS repercussions 99 years later, as Europe explodes in flames once again,) In return, the US agrees to resume trade in war materials with Britain, and protect its own shipping. Impressment of Americans is formally renounced.
When the European wars finally grind to a close in 1817, most of Europe is a shambles. The Congress of Vienna divides Europe, but there’s still fear of more war, so no-one wants to invade Africa, nor is there the stomach for another fight. The American merchant marine has swollen hugely—American ships are common throughout the world. Merchants prefer to use them, knowing that even the Royal Navy will leave them alone, even in ports British ships are barred from entering.
By this time, the Barbary pirates have grown fat with both raiding and trading. They also have purchased three steam battleships for coast defense. They exact a minor tribute for a few years, only seizing the occasional merchant. They also soon become an international free port, where goods of questionable origin are bought and sold—they know that they have to be useful, or son, the Royal Navy will force them to shape up. This trend started when merchants would ship goods from one part of Europe to another, hiding the origins in Africa, so as to allow goods to bypass national borders.
By 1825, some of the European nations are growing weary of paying tribute—and envious of the USA, which is not similarly burdened. They still consider them possible allies should another war break out, but apply diplomatic pressure to reduce the tribute—threatening to smash one state or another “Pour encourager les autres.” At the time, the threats are just a bluff—oner that backfires horribly. The response shocks Europe—the formation of the Barbary Alliance. With a better bargaining position, some tribute continues to flow, but its becoming less important as trade continues to flourish.
By 1840, tribute is reduced even further, but the African coast still sees the occasional true pirate. Even now, though, the pirates are slow to attack American ships, as the Barbary governments are quick to hunt them down if they do—the modern weapons that they need come from American factories. Some of those modern weapons are more steamships—the world is going with steam power earlier than in OTL, having learned some lessons (some of them the wrong ones) from the Battle of New York. It’s still far cheaper to pay a small sum each year than to sponsor a major war. In addition, there is the annoying Anglo-American treaty concerning free passage of American ships. A close blockade would be difficult, and anything else would allow the US to ship supplies in—and trying to interdict them on the high seas could lead to the US getting into the war.
In the 40’s and 50’s, continuing efforts are made to get the USA to at least take a position, but to no avail. Ambiguity served the US far better—the European nations keep paying tribute, and the Barbary Alliance—now growing into a confederation—spends it in the USA. The Crimean War completely disrupts all attempts to end tribute, as various nations offer increased tribute to prey on enemy commerce.

Assuming butterflies don’t disrupt the timing, the American Civil War will be a definite hard time for the Barbary confederation. The supplies will dry up as the Northern factories are diverted to war production, and a negotiated end to the tribute finally occurs in 1861, provided there’s no war scares in Europe. More likely, tribute is reduced to a trickle—there’s always a perceived need for allies in a future war, and the tribute may be seen as buying friendship—or at least neutrality—down the road. Tribute treaties become more intricate, stating what the responsibilities of each power are in peace and war.
Confederation factories can’t fill the gap left by American factories, but the war encourages the Confederation to industrialize more—and rationalize its federated military. Industrialization is slow due to lack of money, but it proceeds.
The Civil War ends in 1864—early because the Union navy was larger and better equipped, and the factories were already producing weapons for the export market.
Now we’re up to 1864, with a Barbary confederation starting to industrialize, American industry becoming a major factor in the world economy, and the US slightly more involved in European affairs than before.
Assuming that nothing else changes, in 1914, Britain may really regret the treaty with the US that it signed in 1815.
Just a rough idea, if anyone wants to play with it, go ahead.
 

Grey Wolf

Donor
I suppose my question is what are they going to trade ? IIRC the reason they preyed on others' trade was that they did not have much of their own. I suppose you could try to fit them into the role of third party traders, carrying others' goods from the ports of country A to the ports of country B, but how long that is viable I do not know.

Regarding the Napoleonic Wars, it is often the case in history that when things to be going well a dramatic fall is just around the corner. Thus the massive loans to France laid the seeds of Algiers' undoing as France, unwilling and unable to pay under the restored Bourbons, preferred conflict to settlement

Grey Wolf
 
Income

As far as what they could trade, it's a definate weak poiint in this rough scenario--does anyone have any ideas for further income?
I can see several options.
1. Industrialize earlier, and provide manufactured goods to parts of Europe that haven't industrialized.
2. With the constant European wars, with moderate tarrifs, they would be a good place to trans-ship cargo from ships of one side to ships of the other, with appropriate paperwork modifications. Basicly a smuggling port. Marseilles may suffer--or be better off for the deal--depending on your point of view.
Note that thre's at least some tribute coming in right up until the US Civil War, perhaps longer.
If the confederation expands durring the 1850's and 60's, digging the Suez Canal, there's more income.
Of course, if the Confederation survives until the end of the Great War, its financial troubles are over...
 
To preserve the Barbary pirates you'd either have to change their mode of operation or screw over the western powers massively. The pattern that operated from the later 17th century on was simple: the Barbary corsairs attack European shipping to extort protection money. European poqwers pay until the matter becomes a political issue or the cost rises too high. A naval force is dispatched, the pirates are humbled (or not, as the case may be - some of those task forces came to sticky ends). No protection money is paid for a while. Then the power in question is tied up elsewhere and the Barbary pirates take up their old wicked ways. Money flows again. Some other power sends a fleet, the pirates are humbled and use the tributes from elsewhere to cover the loss of their payments until...

Every European power had its Barbary war. Many had several. Britain held Tangier for decades. Even Hamburg (!) fought them in 1687/88 until our proud Navy fell victim to accidental fire in a Spanish port (Incidentally, the more successful wars were usually fought by minor or regionally not involved powers as they had to deal with less suspicion - the Dutch were quite good at it, as were the US, at least the second time around). None of the wars were decisive because the balance of power did not allow for any one European power to dominate all of North Africa, no European power was yet interested in actually acquiring territory there, and existing Barbary pirates made such useful allies in times of war... After 1815, that changes. European nations become interested in acquiring control, the treaty system looks increasingly stable enough to allow it, and the Ottoman Empire is in no position to object. Thus, the days of the Barbary pirates are numbered.

So, either give the Barbary ports a different raison d'etre for Europe (maybe smuggling ports or proxy colonialists), or make Europe less stable and confident. A longer, even more destructive Napoleonic war might do it - or a Franco-British Cold War. That way the Brits use the Barbary ports as staging posts in the Med and to victual their fleets, paying toleration as a price, while preventing the French from interfering with these allies.
 
"or make Europe less stable and confident"

More European instability could lead to the following scenario...

The Barbary states could become Mos Eisely-esque "wretched hives of scum and villainy" that every power might have an interest in preserving so that they'd have places to plot intrigues against each other from, as well as "deniable" proxies to use.

"Thus the massive loans to France laid the seeds of Algiers' undoing as France, unwilling and unable to pay under the restored Bourbons, preferred conflict to settlement"

What if Algiers had managed to defeat the French assault? Perhaps they ally with some of the others (telling them that this is the beginning of European conquest of them all--it was, wasn't it?) and drive off the French fleet before it can land.

NHBL, that's a very interesting scenario. I assume with the annoyances of the Barbary pirates combined with the longer, nastier Napoleonic Wars means that there's no African colonialism at all, or did you merely delay European expansion? Plus, with the increasingly-intricate tribute agreements, it seems that the pirates are well on their way to being on-retainer "mercenary states" rather than simply pirates.

Also, I just remembered this. The various pirate kings of North Africa were technically vassals of the Ottoman Sultan (bunches of them were at Lepanto), though they were generally outside of his control. How might a stronger or weaker Ottoman Empire than in OTL affect the pirates?
 
WI the infant USN during the early 19th C had been severely defeated by the Barbary Pirates, instead of the spectacular successes which were achieved OTL by Stephen Decatur et al on the 1803 raid on Tripoli ?
 
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