America loses War of Independence

We lose the ARW (for whatever reason). What is North America like in 2004?

British America streches from the Hudson Bay/Artic Ocean to the Nigurian Canal.

1803 United Colonies join GB in Napolean Wars

1806 UC troops with GB Fleet support invade Cuba Porto Rico

1807 GB troops with UC surrport invade Viceroy of La Plata [Unsucessful]

1808 Napolean does not remove Spainish King, Spain remains French ally

1812 UC & GB Troops invade Viceroy of New Spain.

1814 GB & UC begin surrport of SA Liberation Movement

1815 Bolivar takes Viceroy Gran Columbia [Granada??]

1816 Spain & France defeated

1818 Britian outlaws Slavery, and the Slave Trade.

1832 British Empire outlaws slavery, Program of compisation in the Americas

1848 Texas and California form seperate Domains

1856 Crimea War Britian takes Alaska.

1862 North American Commonwealth Formed-- United Colonies- Caribean Union [Cuba ,Jamaica, Porto Rico, Smaller Islands],- Texas [New Mexico, Arizonia, Oklohoma]- California [Baja, Alto, Southern Oregon Territory] -British Columbia [northern Oregon, Alaska, Yukon ]- Quebec [Newfoundland , Manitoba]- Mexico[ Central America]

tom said:

We lose the ARW (for whatever reason). What is North America like in 2004?

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Depends. I once wrote a story where it leads to a frenchish revolution in the US, and Bonaparte invades mexico to support the war on monarchy.

Shiny happy America, as portrayed, is not all that likely.

Here's my map of North America, actually c. 1821. In 1824, all dominions except Canada, Newfoundland, Qubec, and Texas united to form a loose alliance called the United Kingdom of America. After the War of the American Succession in 1883, the UKA became a solid nation (excpet for Oregon and Maine).

KEY

1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Carolina
4. Virginia
5. Appalachia
6. New England
7. Maine
8. Quebec
9. Michigan

I'm working on 2004 north america map with a later TL to go with it. Note Texas's name in the TL.

see this map of a 2004 british north america

some notes on the Confederation of North America

1 S. Vandalia is a black homelend thats 90% due to ex-slaves moving there

2 Verdecampo and Nuevo Mexico are the only spanish speaking majority provinces

3 Dakota is a province that has a 80% amerind population ude to much of the land being reserved until the 20th century fro amerinds

4 in non english speaking majority provinces(Verdecampo,Nuevo Mexico,Ungava,Quebec,Louisiana) the local languages are used with

5 French and Spanish are recognized as official languages along with Englsih

6 englsih pseaking majority provinces with a strong non englsih minority are California,Cuba,Yucatan and Dakota

I'll just post a link to my Tory America thread:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=1080&highlight=chrispi