Napoleon has the cable telegraph

Grey Wolf

Donor
How much is the development of a telegraph system one of mechanical engineering that needs to be worked on, and how much one of an idea that hasn't yet been thought about or deployed ? Given that Napoleon had a very effective semaphore-based telegraph that allowed Paris to communicate to the fleet in a short-time delay, there is the basis of a design there. How much needs to be done to advance this to the cable ?

Grey Wolf
 
From one reference: Samuel Soemmering (Prussia) develops a multiwire telegraph in 1809.

another entry:

1796 Francisco Salva installs an electric telegraph linking Madrid to Aranjuez, Spain a distance of 50k (30 miles); the link consists of 44 wires that allow 22 characters to be transmitted; the signals are generated by electrostatic machines and detected by people holding the ends of the wires; later Salva uses the occurance of sparks to detect signals.

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Grey Wolf said:
How much is the development of a telegraph system one of mechanical engineering that needs to be worked on, and how much one of an idea that hasn't yet been thought about or deployed ? Given that Napoleon had a very effective semaphore-based telegraph that allowed Paris to communicate to the fleet in a short-time delay, there is the basis of a design there. How much needs to be done to advance this to the cable ?

Grey Wolf

Napoleon needs a better power source than the electrostatic machines he had. Some decent insulators wouldn't hurt, and an electromagnet for output.
 

Dunash

Banned
Was the heliograph available to Napoleon? Use of it during that critical moment at Waterloo could have turned the battle, though I believe it was cloudy that day.
 

Leo Caesius

Banned
Solresol

Jean François Sudre (1787-1864) invented a means of long-distance communcation in 1817, which he named Solresol. This language is based on the musical scale and has just seven syllables: do, re, mi, fa, sol, la, si. Statistically, these combinations yield seven one-syllable words, 49 of two syllables, 336 of three, 2,268 of four, 9,072 of five, for a total of 11,732 primary words, a respectable vocabulary in any language. Shifts of stress from one syllable to another yielded additional words and separate grammatical forms. The language could be sung, played, or hummed, as well as spoken. It could be written as music. It could be expressed in taps, or even colors. Solresol gained wide acceptance, and was sponsored by such figures as Victor Hugo, Lamartine, von Humboldt, and Napoleon III.

Here's an example:

rml rdd lsorf ldld = Donnez un mètre de mousseline.

It had particular value to the military in this period, as it could be broadcast over long distances by a loud-enough military band. Some of you may have heard a snatch or two of Solresol - it was used in the film Close Encounters of the Third Kind as the language that the alien spacecraft uses to communicate.

If Sudre had pioneered his language only a few years earlier, it would have been available to Napoleon. He could have established broadcast centers all over the continent relatively quickly.
 

Dunash

Banned
Fortunately for the British, when Napoleon was shown & offered models of the first steam ships, propellor ships and breech loading rifles & artillery, he showed no interest in technical innovation whatsoever!
 
Dunash said:
Was the heliograph available to Napoleon? Use of it during that critical moment at Waterloo could have turned the battle, though I believe it was cloudy that day.


Chapp Telegraph.

In use in France during the Revolution and Empire.
 
Dunash said:
Fortunately for the British, when Napoleon was shown & offered models of the first steam ships, propellor ships and breech loading rifles & artillery, he showed no interest in technical innovation whatsoever!

The first two were, IMO, significant mistakes.

The later two, I'm not sure. Were they developped enougth to be mass producted in a reliable fashion. I think metallurgy still has some progress to make befor this happens.

OTOH, if Napoleon were to adopt the Minié Ball with rifled muskets, Wellinhgton's thin red line may have some trouble holding, where he cannot use the reverse slope tactic.
 

Grey Wolf

Donor
So, reading between the lines the problem is not so much in the cables or character-generation per se, but in the source of electricity ? Is one therefore requiring Napoleon to have better electricity than historical ? I hadn't even thought of this - how much did early electricity owe to fortune and conceptual breakthroughs, and how much to the measurable march of technology ?

Grey Wolf
 
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