WI certain photos never taken ?

How would hist have been different had certain photos never been taken ? Such as
ACW photos of post-battle fields such as Antietam and Gettysburg
lynching photos such as burning of Henry Smith, Paris, Texas, 1893, or Jesse Washington, Waco 1916
1944- Robert Capa's photos of landings at Omaha Beach
1945- US Marines planting flag on Mount Suribachi
1964- footage of violent police suppression of civil rights demonstrations in Birmingham and Selma
1968- RVN Saigon police chief Loan executing VC suspect during Tet offensive
1970 approx.- little Vietnamese girl running down road naked after napalm attack
1972- masked PLO terrorist on balcony after Israeli Olympic team taken hostage
1979 onwards- photos of skulls of Khmer Rouge victims
1982- captured Royal Marine garrison disarmed and forced to lie on ground spreadeagled by Argentines at Port Stanley
1991- footage of captured RAF Tornado crewmen displayed by Saddam on TV + Highway of Death after Iraqis kicked out from Kuwait
1992- Arkan's Tigers kicking bodies of murdered Bosnian Muslim women at Bijeljina
1993- Roy Gutman's photos of emaciated detainees at Omarska concentration camp + footage of dead crewmen of SUPER 6-4 being dragged thru streets of Mog
1994- footage of Rwandan genocide- esp. pregnant woman being macheted to death
1999- footage of unarmed East Timorese pro-independence voter being beaten to death by militiamen

Can anybody speculate as to hist without these photos having been taken, and suggest others ?
 
Melvin Loh said:
How would hist have been different had certain photos never been taken ? Such as
ACW photos of post-battle fields such as Antietam and Gettysburg
lynching photos such as burning of Henry Smith, Paris, Texas, 1893, or Jesse Washington, Waco 1916
1944- Robert Capa's photos of landings at Omaha Beach
1945- US Marines planting flag on Mount Suribachi
1964- footage of violent police suppression of civil rights demonstrations in Birmingham and Selma
1968- RVN Saigon police chief Loan executing VC suspect during Tet offensive
1970 approx.- little Vietnamese girl running down road naked after napalm attack
1972- masked PLO terrorist on balcony after Israeli Olympic team taken hostage
1979 onwards- photos of skulls of Khmer Rouge victims
1982- captured Royal Marine garrison disarmed and forced to lie on ground spreadeagled by Argentines at Port Stanley
1991- footage of captured RAF Tornado crewmen displayed by Saddam on TV + Highway of Death after Iraqis kicked out from Kuwait
1992- Arkan's Tigers kicking bodies of murdered Bosnian Muslim women at Bijeljina
1993- Roy Gutman's photos of emaciated detainees at Omarska concentration camp + footage of dead crewmen of SUPER 6-4 being dragged thru streets of Mog
1994- footage of Rwandan genocide- esp. pregnant woman being macheted to death
1999- footage of unarmed East Timorese pro-independence voter being beaten to death by militiamen

Can anybody speculate as to hist without these photos having been taken, and suggest others ?


Add this:
1961 Albert (?) Korda's most famous photo of Che Guevara (an icon of worship for many)
 
Good topic

Perhaps it's only because I'm an American, I believe the two which may have made the biggest difference might have been the 1968 Vietnamese summary execution and the 1970 Vietnamese girl running from US troops. It was images like these that convinced the broad US population to realize that something wrong was happening in the Vietnam War that they did not want to support. Policies and views changed 180 degrees.

The 1972 Munich images are probably the next most influential - the PLO/Palestinan Authority lacks credibility among many Americans and almost all Jews because of images like that. (although I would say an even more influential picture in this respect is the famous one of Yasser Arafat at the UN brandishing an AK-47 - the average US citizen's opinion of the UN has never been the same since - who knows what the effect on US/UN relations has been)

Another image which changed US foriegn policy and is still influencing US foreign policy was the shot of dead US soldiers being dragged thru the streets of Mogadishu - pretty influential.
 

Diamond

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What about the footage of Rodney King being brutalized by police? This seemed to be the spark which instigated the decade-long clean-up effort in the Los Angeles PD, which is still ongoing.

And what about all the photos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims?
 

Xen

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Otis Tarda said:
Photo of Stalin and Lenin sitting on the bench... they really look like friends :)

Wasnt that one proven to be a fake? Stalin was notorious for adding his image to those with Lenin and erasing those he didnt like from photos.

I also think about the one of Hitler bending down to pet his dog, and the dog cowering. According to alot of people Hitler loved that dog and wouldnt hurt it, but the dog still feared him. That speaks wonders of his character.
 
The one with the most direct political effect could be the "highway of death" footage. After that, it became politically very hard to utterly crush the republican guard in their retreat. It seemed as if the US was simply slaughtering the guard, and that it was excessive violence.

Now, speaking as a liberal here, crushing the republican guard and re-creating the "highway of death" for every retreating guard unit would probably have saved us a LOT of problems down the line.

If there was no media frenzy over the highway of death, then I bet attacks like that would continue, and the guard units that crushed the anti-saddam uprisings after the war would no longer exist. We never screw over the anti-saddam folks in 1991, and maybe saddam is toppled in a coup.
 
Xen said:
Wasnt that one proven to be a fake? Stalin was notorious for adding his image to those with Lenin and erasing those he didnt like from photos.

Yes it was... originally it was - IIRC - Stalin and Molotov
 
Ah, BTW... what about this famous photo of Earth seen from the Space? I've heard, that it changed the way the humanity look at our planet - as we realized, as small Earth is.
 
The Pulitzer Prize winner from Stanley Forman of a black man being rammed with an American flag by a white rioter outside Boston City Hall in the Boston busing riots in 1974.


Also numerous pictures of smiling white crowds attending lynchings of black men in the US.
 
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Xen

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The JFK assassination

The men pointing to where they believe MLK's assassin shot from
 
Side issue here: The guy who shot the 1968 VC execution pic never intended the results it caused. He has said on many occasions that Gen Loan was a good and brave soldier. He also has said the VC commando was a thug that got what he deserved. How about this. What if instead of the one photo it was the end in a series that started when Loan's troops captured this Communist standing over the bodies of the Vietnamese family members (husband, wife, children and dog) he had just finished murdering for being anti-Communist?
 

Xen

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It wouldnt matter if it was a series of photos or not. That one would still be printed everywhere. Thats the way the media is, hell I wouldnt be surprised if they committed some atrocities thereselves, or made it look like one was commited just so they can put something on the news.
 

Dunash

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Photos taken earlier

The technology to take photos was available a century before Daguerre's accidental discovery. WI photos had been taken of Isaac Newton, George III, the Baal Shem Tov, Bonnie Prince Charlie, the American War of Independence, Napoleon etc. Any differene from OTL?
 
It's a newsreel, not a photo, but if there's one thing I would expunge, it's the footage of the Hindenburg disaster, which forever put and end to the Rigid Airship. We might still have cruise airships today if not for that.
 
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