Another victory like this one... - A Pyrrhus of Epirus Timeline

Another victory like this one... - A Pyrrhus of Epirus Timeline (Chapter II)

Death on the Siris
Publius Valerius Laevinus watched his army shatter and die before his own eyes. In truth, he suspected he should have seen it coming. Underestimating your enemy was perhaps not the best way to go about fighting a battle.
At first, it seemed successful enough, unwilling to let Pyrrhus enjoy his natural barrier, Laevinus had woken his army at the crack of dawn, sending them to cross the river as soon as possible, and if the Gods would have it, before Pyrrhus got his pants on, or his troops he supposed. Valerius was determined to win a great victory for himself, in Rome, the great military man thrived, and Publius indeed, meant to thrive and win the respect of his peers. He was Consul, but he could be far more.
The battlefield was a clear and large plain in the lands of Lukania, cut through by the river Siris a narrow though quick stream, and a forest on the north and south, between the towns of Heraclea and Pandosia, Greek colonies the both of them.
The army the senate had given him the command of was the model of Roman legions. Under his leadership, he had been entrusted some two Legions of Roman citizens, with two alae of allies, Etruscans, Umbrians and Campanians, the Lucanians and Samnites were absent, having thrown in their lot with the invader. Twenty thousand men in all, with six hundred Equites, and a thousand more allied riders.

The Equites and Socii cavalry crossed the river Siris first galloped forwards and advanced to the other side of the stream, Pyrrhus' light infantry and riders fleeing before them, off to warn their king, doubtlessly he had thought. The main maniples then attempted to cross the river themselves, first the Leves and the Rorarii to find and harass the enemy, then the Hastati, in cloth and bronze and armed with swords, followed close behind with the spear-armed Principes. Then finally, the Hoplite-like Triarii formed the last line, red banners and standards strewn around his host, golden eagles sewn on them fluttering in the wind, proclaiming Rome's glory to all that saw it.

He saw the first sign then.

Pyrrhos was not a stupid man, he had ordered his men up and running at the same time as Laevinus had, the Phalanx was formed and ready, dozens of squares of men, sixteen shields across, sixteen shields deep, looking like a hedgehog of wood, iron and death. Hypaspists and Tarantine hoplites guarded the flanks, their larger shields much more conspicuous.

Heralded by a flight of birds, Thessalian and Tarantine riders, armed with javelins and spears and armoured in bronze and leather or not at all charged out of the woods and ambushed the Roman cavalry. The Equites seemed near impotent, unable to catch the quicker enemy horsemen, while the Greeks themselves had little trouble killing the Equites with their javelins. Finally, the Equites were routed, some drowning in the river, or cut down by the Greeks.
That was not the worst it got, unfortunately.

Archers (who Laevinus recognized as Cretans by their shield) Rhodian slingers and peltasts ran out of the Epirote phalanx and pelted the front-line with arrows, javelins, spears rocks and lead bullets, the unarmored Rorarii and Leves stood no chance, and a great many of the Hastati as well were slaughtered while the rest ran back to the main line, regrouping behind the Triarii.

Furious, he ordered the Hastati forward. Pyrrhos' skirmishers fleeing behind the Greek line. The young Hastati charged the Phalanx, in order and discipline, throwing their pila, and while the Greeks reeled from the impact, threw themselves into the teeth of the Epirote iron hedgehog.

The Hastati attempted to get inside the pikes, but the Phalangites held. Any time some poor soul got in among the spears, he was stabbed by the three other pikes behind that one. Showing no progress, he then ordered the Principes forward, the Triarii and the Socii infantry to the flanks. Whilst the Principes and Hastati engaged the Phalanx, the Triarii and the alae would force out the flanks and envelop the Epirotes.

Seven times the Principes charged, seven times they were thrown back, the Triarii were giving a hard fight, and it looked like the Greek flanks were giving way. Pyrrhos' Hetairoi reinforced them however, the King of Epirus' presence alone seemed to reinvigorate his men, who must hold great admiration for him.

Then his defeat was sealed.

Rejoining their King, the Tarantine and Thessalian cavalry returned, charging the rear of his line, with his own cavalry routed, Laevinus could do little against them, they cut a bloody swath through the back of his maniples, getting in among his men and seeding great confusion, their javelins flying high, and when they ran out, the pulled out their swords and continued the slaughter.
But that was not the worst.

Out of the murky shadows of the forests surrounding the battlefield, twenty great shapes formed, magnificent grey beasts, taller than any man or horse, and much heavier than either charged his line, throwing up men like playthings, killing them or stabbing them with their tusks while the archers, mounted on towers on their back loosed arrows into the Roman formations. The Greeks pushed forward now, with the Roman host thrown into disarray by Pyrrhos.

Publius Valerius Laevinus was shocked into silence and horror, his heart thumped in his chest, sweat drippled down his forehead. One of his officers advised him to return to Rome while he had the chance, “A man who flees lives to fight another day, a man who dies, does not.” he told Laevinus. Publius did not need to be told, he turned and fled, his army, then passed from fear to open terror, they too fled and deserted the line, the Phalanx pushing them to the river where most of them drowned or died by the spearpoints of Greek pikes.

Laevinus lived to fight another day, perhaps. But his army would not.

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Excerpt from “Pyrrhos Megas, Greatest Commander of the Ancient World” by Arrian.

The Battle of Heraclea was perhaps the greatest victory Pyrrhos had won in his lifetime. On the fields of Lucania, Rome had its back cracked open by the Alexandrian/Pyrrhan Phalanx, setting the latter forever above the Manipular legions Rome had employed at the time of Pyrrhos Megas. The Commentary of Pyrrhos claims the Romans lost thirty thousand men, while Dionysus claims only twenty thousand died on the Roman side, with a further ten thousand taken prisoner while the Greeks took less than a thousand casualties according to Greek sources and five thousand according to Latin ones, although modern estimates put the dead on the Greek side at a thousand and a half at best.

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I've always found Pyrrhus a fascinating character, and someone who had great potential, obviously a very good commander and perhaps the last chance for the Greeks to abort Roman supremacy. IRL, the only reason the Roman army wasn't destroyed completely OTL was because of one of the elephants panicked and charged the Phalanx, buying time for the Romans to GTFO, in here, Pyrrhus' cavalry enjoy greater advantage and the one elephant doesn't run amok, which brings the consequences I illustrated above.

I'll include History-Book and Narrative sections both, as you can see, so if you don't like one you can read the other.


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Summary
Act I: Italy
Chapter I: Death on the Siris
Chapter II: Venusia
Chapter III:
Part I: Campania, Oh Campania
Part II: Battle of Neapolis
Act II...
 
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Yuelang

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Why does I start to feel the Roman AI is played my M2TWK AI in Europa Barbarorum II mod? :D While Pyrrhos is played by an obviously experienced human player?

Nice Work, will watch for this TL! :D
 
Why does I start to feel the Roman AI is played my M2TWK AI in Europa Barbarorum II mod? :D While Pyrrhos is played by an obviously experienced human player?

Nice Work, will watch for this TL! :D

Shamefully, I haven't played EB or EB2. Though what initially shocked me into writing this TL was the Extended Greek mod for RTW (Epirus Campaign), and destroying Decius Mus' army and conquering Rome. Although conquering Rome is probably a bit far fetched an idea in reality, Southern Italy isn't ;).

Your praise is misplaced, I haven't done anything of note yet. Next chapter should be up tomorrow, by midday or afternoon. Currently 300 words into Chapter II.
 
The main issue with a successful Pyrrhus is just the massive manpower advantage the Romans enjoyed.

ITTL, Pyrrhus destroyed an army at Herakleia. This was two legions under Publius Valerius Laevinus. After that, the Romans still had six legions - three more armies just as large - left elsewhere (one in Etruria, one in reserve at Rome, one in Samnium/Lucania.) IOTL, Pyrrhus advanced into Italy post-Heracleia, and was stopped by some of the untouched reserve forces - that are similarly untouched here.

Pyrrhus offered peace IOTL which would encompass the independence and freedom of Tarentum and various Italian tribes and Greek cities in the Italian boot. The Romans rejected him.

The major issue I'd point out is that if Pyrrhus wins big at Heracleia and follows that up with another resounding victory over one of the other Roman armies, the Romans might finally be willing to settle for the above terms, but by that point Pyrrhus's ambition and dare-I-say megalomania would push him to take more. Even IOTL, he aspired for one son to rule over all of Italy while another would rule over the entire of Sicily. Pyrrhus's ambitions would not be tamed to something reasonable except through facing difficulty or failure.

There's no way the Romans would submit tamely, and at this point Tarentum and the other southern Greek cities would have tried to make a separate peace (they had already soured on Pyrrhus around this point IOTL.) It's difficult to see a way to end up with a successful Pyrrhus who attains his ambition for some kingdom cut out of Italy.





What my suggestion would be would to have Pyrrhus go east instead of west, to face off against Ptolemy Keraunos in 280 BC (or return to Greece after his death in 278 or 279 BC.) Pyrrhos as King of Macedon/Thessaly would have the relatively stable power base for his empire that he never enjoyed IOTL, and would be able to prevent much of the ravaging and destruction of northern Greece and Macedon from the Galatian migration that occurred in OTL.
 
The main issue with a successful Pyrrhus is just the massive manpower advantage the Romans enjoyed.

ITTL, Pyrrhus destroyed an army at Herakleia. This was two legions under Publius Valerius Laevinus. After that, the Romans still had six legions - three more armies just as large - left elsewhere (one in Etruria, one in reserve at Rome, one in Samnium/Lucania.) IOTL, Pyrrhus advanced into Italy post-Heracleia, and was stopped by some of the untouched reserve forces - that are similarly untouched here.

Pyrrhus offered peace IOTL which would encompass the independence and freedom of Tarentum and various Italian tribes and Greek cities in the Italian boot. The Romans rejected him.

The major issue I'd point out is that if Pyrrhus wins big at Heracleia and follows that up with another resounding victory over one of the other Roman armies, the Romans might finally be willing to settle for the above terms, but by that point Pyrrhus's ambition and dare-I-say megalomania would push him to take more. Even IOTL, he aspired for one son to rule over all of Italy while another would rule over the entire of Sicily. Pyrrhus's ambitions would not be tamed to something reasonable except through facing difficulty or failure.

There's no way the Romans would submit tamely, and at this point Tarentum and the other southern Greek cities would have tried to make a separate peace (they had already soured on Pyrrhus around this point IOTL.) It's difficult to see a way to end up with a successful Pyrrhus who attains his ambition for some kingdom cut out of Italy.





What my suggestion would be would to have Pyrrhus go east instead of west, to face off against Ptolemy Keraunos in 280 BC (or return to Greece after his death in 278 or 279 BC.) Pyrrhos as King of Macedon/Thessaly would have the relatively stable power base for his empire that he never enjoyed IOTL, and would be able to prevent much of the ravaging and destruction of northern Greece and Macedon from the Galatian migration that occurred in OTL.

These are the kinds of posts I look for. Your input is invaluable, thank you for it. Though I might add that the Senate was on the verge of surrendering to Pyrrhus' terms OTL and stopped only because of Appius' speech.
Nevertheless, most of the senators were plainly inclined towards peace, since they had been defeated in one great battle, and expected another with a larger army, now that the Italian Greeks had joined Pyrrhus.
From Plutarch's Life of Pyrrhus (my primary source in this TL)

ITTL, the Roman have lost ~twenty thousand men in one shocking battle, they might be less hesitant about peace, especially if, as you said, he follows it up with another victory over Barbula's legion (Enough to inspire Etrurian revolt or Celtic invasion? Though for the former you'd need to get rid of the legions in Etruria).

Again, I appreciate this kind of post. And if you have any books or sources on the period touched on, I'd appreciate it immensely.
 
Chapter II

[FONT=Andalus, serif]Venusia[/FONT]​
[FONT=Andalus, serif]Autumn of 280BC [/FONT]​
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[FONT=Andalus, serif]The horses were tireless, and no one could calm them.[/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]Their whining was incessant, when he asked what the matter was, they could only tell him that they afraid. [/FONT]
“[FONT=Andalus, serif]Of what?” He asked, furiously.[/FONT]
“[FONT=Andalus, serif]I don't know my lord.” The stableboy told him.[/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]Of course, the environment was not exactly conducive to relaxation. The Lucanian forest was deep and dark, light could scarcely pierce the thick foliage. [/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]His guide was a dark haired youth, olive skin and brown eyes, slightly shorter than Barbula himself, his clothes were ragged and brown, a dirty cloth tunic and leather sandals. An Oscan, by the thick accent he spoke Latin in, Gellius by name. Barbula thought him perhaps someone eager to betray his own people for a chance of promotion in the Roman Republic. He had provided him with the positions of key Lucanian outposts, and letters from the King of Epirus to the leaders in Taras. Although he felt uneasy about taking in a betrayer into his service, he had been invaluable in guiding his army, Barbula had not spent much time in Lucania, and he was glad for any help he could acquire, he was not a needlessly proud man, and he certainly was not going to become another Laevinus. That man's brutal defeat had rocked him to the core. Before he had though perhaps this Pyrrhus would be just another Lucanian or Tarantine cur to be whipped. But now, he was not so sure.[/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]His scouts had sighted Pyrrhus' force two day's march from Venusia, and travelling with haste, coinciding with Gellius' information, and while Barbula had left a force of three thousand men in Venusia, he took the rest of the army with him west, some fifteen thousand legionnaires, five thousand Campanians and three thousand Etrurian infantry, along with six hundred quites and four hundred Campanian horsemen, that he might take Pyrrhus from behind when he came knocking on the fortress' door. [/FONT]
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Pyrrhus
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Under his breath, the King of Epirus cursed the Tarantines for their tardiness. Their captain, a callow, older man of forty years, Merillius by name, seemed intent on being as annoying as possible. He had gotten lost in the Lucanian forest.

Nevertheless, Pyrrhus trotted on, with his army in tow, the guide, a Lucanian by the name of Gellius, young, olive-skinned, with dark hair, wearing a dark brown tunic and leather sandals led his army through the thick Lucanian forest. Gellius was a man in Barbula's employ, he knew, the Lucanian captain, a man by the name of Megnon, fifty or so years of age, much older than Pyrrhus himself, though loyal and respectful, with greyed hair and a magnificent beard had informed him of it at first, as Gellius was loyal to Lucania, although the Romans thought he was theirs. Introducing him to Barbula was easy enough, a faked defection, an expendable foraging party, and some letters later, and[FONT=Andalus, serif] [/FONT]Gellius was feeding Barbula[FONT=Andalus, serif]

Pyrrhus praised himself for his wit, Barbula would not see it coming, as Laevinus never saw the elephants coming.

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[/FONT][FONT=Andalus, serif]Barbula woke to the sound of slaughter. [/FONT]


[FONT=Andalus, serif]Gellius was shaking his shoulder, violently. “Wake up my lord,” he cried, “Wake up! We are being attacked!”. [/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]Lucius jumped out, he rushed outside sword in hand, he was not ready for the sight.[/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]The camp was afire, horsemen galloped across the tents, setting them afire with their torches, and slaughtering the men trying to escape, still half-asleep and naked. The palisade had been broken through, as if by a ram and he could see a large grey shapes, shadows dancing across them, the massive beasts' trunks pulling down pavilions and watchtowers, sending men hurtling to their death or burying them helplessly under pounds of cloth and canvas. Lit up by the torchlight, he recognized Pyrrhus, bright as the sun, in his golden armour and goat-horned helmet, running down the fleeing men who did not surrender on sight.[/FONT]
“[FONT=Andalus, serif]How did this happen?” Barbula asked no one in particular, except himself. He had watchmen posted day and night, Pyrrhus' army was days away, Gellius and his scouts had told him. The camp was deep in the forest, no one could find them.[/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]A dagger was thrust under his chin, and an arm wrapped around his neck. “Traitor!” Barbula cried, his breath running out.[/FONT]
“[FONT=Andalus, serif]Scarcely, I can not betray what I did not serve.” He recognised Gellius' voice.[/FONT]



[FONT=Andalus, serif]Pyrrhus was a true master of deceptive tactics, emulating the tactics Alexander had used before him, which nevertheless brought him great success in battle and war.[/FONT]
[FONT=Andalus, serif]Shortly after the Battle of Heraklea and copying Alexander's strategy in his war with Poros, an Indian King, Pyrrhus divided his forces, while Megacles took the greater part of his Phalangites on the direct road through the coast towards Venusia, where Barbula and his legions were nominally stationed, harassing the Lucanians and Samnites, and preventing them from joining Pyrrhus' army, Tricking Barbula into thinking that Megacles' force was the main one and making him think he could ambush them, Pyrrhus took him unawares. His agents in the Roman camp fed the Romans false information while they informing Pyrrhus of Rome's every movement. The Battle of the Camp was the fruit of Pyrrhus' gambit, of the twenty thousand men Barbula had in Lucania, only a thousand escaped alive to Rome, the rest mostly surrendered outright or were quickly killed, Barbula was captured by the Greeks and Venusia, alone and abandoned, surrendered without a fight to Megacles' infantry force, effectively sealing Rome's defeat in Southern Italy and opening the road towards Rome. The psychological shock of two quick and devastating defeats on Rome could not be understated, the Senate was in open panic, hysteria among the urban population was at an all-time high, and aristocrats were selling their property in the Latium and moving towards Etruria, whose' elite were now contemplating open rebellion and joining Pyrrhus, although the legions stationed there forced them to stay still. Meanwhile in Rome, the Senate finally elected the inordinately poor, but extremely honourable Caius Fabricius as Dictator, in their darkest hour.[/FONT]



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Yuelang

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Umm, Pyrrhos use deception against Romans? As is outright use of betrayal and assassins?

I suspect that... while he could get good names in Greek chronicles, the Roman chroniclers will decry them as one of the foulest abomination :D Unless there will be no Romans to speaking with in 50 years... :p

Keep up!
 
This is a much needed timeline (I'm saying that a lot lately. The sudden proliferation of ancient timelines here is just lovely). This is very well written too. You asked for any sources on this period, so I feel obliged to mention Jeff Champion's Pen and Sword biography of Pyrrhus as something you might wanna check out to get a modern interpretation to go alongside Plutarch.
 
Umm, Pyrrhos use deception against Romans? As is outright use of betrayal and assassins?

I suspect that... while he could get good names in Greek chronicles, the Roman chroniclers will decry them as one of the foulest abomination :D Unless there will be no Romans to speaking with in 50 years... :p

Keep up!

In the worst case, he can invoke Odysseus and say he's succeeding him too. Ithaca is in Pyrrhus' realm anyway so it all evens out.

This is a much needed timeline (I'm saying that a lot lately. The sudden proliferation of ancient timelines here is just lovely). This is very well written too. You asked for any sources on this period, so I feel obliged to mention Jeff Champion's Pen and Sword biography of Pyrrhus as something you might wanna check out to get a modern interpretation to go alongside Plutarch.

Yiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssss! Souuuuuuuuuuuurceeeeeeeeeees! Thaaaaaaaank you!


And yeah I noticed, Ancient times are a field ripe for alternate histories, the Diadochi wars etc. Still shocked there's no significant Alesia TL, or a Celtic Greece.


P.S: I fear you've killed my productivity, too focused reading (sample only though ) that to write the third chapter :p
 
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Yuelang

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In the worst case, he can invoke Odysseus and say he's succeeding him too. Ithaca is in Pyrrhus' realm anyway so it all evens out.

So, if everyone end up knowing Pyrrhus' cunning exploit, he will get "Son of Odissos" as one of his ephitet... :D

Perhaps he himself will erect a temple or two for his victory dedicated to Odysseus. In Ithaca!
 
Yiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssss! Souuuuuuuuuuuurceeeeeeeeeees! Thaaaaaaaank you!


And yeah I noticed, Ancient times are a field ripe for alternate histories, the Diadochi wars etc. Still shocked there's no significant Alesia TL, or a Celtic Greece.


P.S: I fear you've killed my productivity, too focused reading (sample only though ) that to write the third chapter :p
As for a Celtic Greece, the Weighted Scales has a Celtic Macedonia.
 
So, if everyone end up knowing Pyrrhus' cunning exploit, he will get "Son of Odissos" as one of his ephitet... :D

Perhaps he himself will erect a temple or two for his victory dedicated to Odysseus. In Ithaca!

This reminds me so much

As for a Celtic Greece, the Weighted Scales has a Celtic Macedonia.

-Welp, more reading to do.- Not anymore, killing Pyrrus? Not something I can tolerate, yet.

Progress-O-Meter says 1348 words into the next one with a PoV in Etruria and another in the Roman Senate, an OTL 'friend' of Pyrrhus' (It's a big one). Can anyone inform me of Etruria's state in the closing days of 280BC? And Carthage? For the former, It seems it was revolting or independent and the latter had sent a fleet to Ostia and allied with Rome, correct if wrong.
 
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Liking this! But one tiny quibble, the text is really tiny so a bit difficult to read for me :p could it maybe be a bit larger?

I'll increase the font size by 1, maybe 2. The tiny font size is because, ASOIAF (;), my principal literal insipiration also has tiny font size, but still manages to have a thousand pages.


 
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