A Romanov-Rurikid Russia

Ivan V left only daughters - Anna (the Empress), Ekaterina (Duchess of Mecklenburg) and Praskovia Ivanovna, Of these, Anna was childless, Ekaterina left only a daughter - the ill-fated Anna Leopoldovna - and Praskovia contracted what according to some was a "morganatic" marriage.

Praskovia married rather late in life - she was 29 - and rather inauspiciously compared to her sisters. Her husband (whom she married around 1723) was Ivan Dmitriev-Mamanov, a Rurikid noble some 14 years older than she. However, he certainly did his duty by her since she duly fell pregnant and produced the only grandson of Ivan V in 1724.

This boy, whose name I can't seem to locate - most sources either don't mention the child or don't mention a name if they do - died in 1730 at the age of 5/6.

But what if he had lived? I should imagine he would be preferred as heir to Anna Leopoldovna (what with him having the twin qualifications of being Russian by birth and being male), and he would be 16 by the time of his aunt's death. Now I don't know about the age of Russian majority, but I should imagine a 16 year old is again better than a child in arms (as Ivan VI was). Who might become Tsarina? A Russian? A foreigner? How might Russia develop? Hide behind it's Byzantine curtains? Or take a role on the European stage?

Discuss

I am going to name this young prince Ivan, as its respectful of his father and grandfather.
In 1740, Ivan at 16 would become Tsar, with Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess, Elizaveta Petrovna and Count Peter von Lacy. Until he reaches the age of 18.

As a single 18 year old Tsar, he would be courted by all monarchs. There are:
-Princess Louise of Denmark (1726–1756)
-Princess Anna Amalia of Prussia (1723–1787)
-Sophie Friederike Auguste Ascania (1721-1796) = Catherine The Great
-Leopoldine Anna, Countess of Anhalt (1738-1808)
-Princess Louise of Great Britain (1724-1751) = Daughter of George II
-Princess Augusta Frederica of Great Britain (1737–1813) = Sister of George III

If he can have a few issues of his own he could marry the "Romanov-Rurikid" family into over royal families.

And if we kill him off in about 1800-1810 that would give him a reign of 60-70 years on the throne. Within his reign we would see -
Banking and finance, Arts and culture and Education saw the Russian Enlightenment. Religious affairs including Russian Orthodox, Catholics, Judaism and Islam.

Further colonization of Alaska and Western Coast. Links with Asia, Europe and America.

Conflict
Russo-Swedish War, War of the Austrian Succession, Seven Years' War, Russo-Turkish and Napoleonic War

So, I've discovered since my original post that Praskovia was reportedly somewhat mentally-retarded, hence probably why she wasn't married off abroad as her sisters. Also, according to rodovid from what I can make out, there were actually three kids - the unnamed boy, designated as I. Dmitriev-Mamanov, a girl named Anastasia (d. 1747) and a Feodor, who died in infancy. Now I'm not sure about the two "new" children if they were Praskovia's or her husband's from another marriage/affair whatever.

Still, a Grand Duchess Anastasia one and a half centuries ahead of schedule is bound to be interesting.

JonasResende said:

So, I've discovered since my original post that Praskovia was reportedly somewhat mentally-retarded, hence probably why she wasn't married off abroad as her sisters. Also, according to rodovid from what I can make out, there were actually three kids - the unnamed boy, designated as I. Dmitriev-Mamanov, a girl named Anastasia (d. 1747) and a Feodor, who died in infancy. Now I'm not sure about the two "new" children if they were Praskovia's or her husband's from another marriage/affair whatever.

Still, a Grand Duchess Anastasia one and a half centuries ahead of schedule is bound to be interesting.

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The "retarded" thing is kinda dubious and in fact there are the theories on the contrary. But then again, only theory.
Also, Feodor and Anastasia are children of her husband from first marriage with Audotia Plestcheeva.

I think the Romanovs did have Rurikid blood in them, also after Ivan rhe Terrible how many Rurikids were really left and were actually significant.

None with actual Royal claims, the closest thing after Shuisky family died out were Princes of Starodub-on-Klyazma (Romodanovsky) and cadet branches of Princes of Chernigov (Obolensky, Dolgorukov). Lots of minor stuff also (Mamonov-Dmitriev was such princeling).
They were unable to pretend on throne due to the clauses of mediatization of their fiefs, but they were Rurikids nevertheless.

I could be getting my Russian families mixed up - entirely possible - but wasn't one of Catherine II's boytoys Alexander Mamonov-Dmitriev? And was he related to the tsarevna's husband or no?

JonasResende said:

So, I've discovered since my original post that Praskovia was reportedly somewhat mentally-retarded, hence probably why she wasn't married off abroad as her sisters. Also, according to rodovid from what I can make out, there were actually three kids - the unnamed boy, designated as I. Dmitriev-Mamanov, a girl named Anastasia (d. 1747) and a Feodor, who died in infancy. Now I'm not sure about the two "new" children if they were Praskovia's or her husband's from another marriage/affair whatever.

Still, a Grand Duchess Anastasia one and a half centuries ahead of schedule is bound to be interesting.

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Sadly many monarchs of this time had "mental problems" due to the closeness of the royal family.
And the marrying an in-lander, to a younger child is also common, as if all else fails there is a true national child in the royal family.

Also a Grand Duchess (Tsarina) Anastasia in the second half of the 18th Century. Have her like the Elizabeth I of England, with Ivan VI like Edward V