AHC: People's Rep. of China adopts emigration policy instead of one-child policy

mlp

I believe we are at least partly aware of what the One-child Policy is - one of the more draconian methods of constraining the population.
Now, is it possible that they adopt a policy of emigration, where it lets people go unless they are exceptionally important to "state-secret matters"?
Perhaps emigration laws become better after 1972 when China becomes friendly with the US? Please explain how this may become possible.
If you believe this is utterly impossible, also explain why.
 
Tom Colton

Tom Colton

Mass migration (Go west, young lady) to Xinjiang and the other western provinces to "Sinify" Uyghurstan once and for all?

Now I don't know if Manifest Destiny Mk. 2 would be much better, really. :(
 
ramones1986

ramones1986

Singapore is one of the options, but expect resistance from the local Chinese Singaporeans (and Singaporeans in general.)
 
Plumber

Plumber

No. Communist countries have an ideological opposition to emigration because the high amounts of people (basically political refugees) willing to leave exposes the naked shit that is the utopia-in-the-making. Look up the tale of the Soviet Jews.
 

Delta Force

Banned
It has to be kept in mind that neo-Malthusianism was very popular in the 1960s and 1970s due to works such as The Population Bomb. At the time, people thought there weren't enough resources to allow for increased population growth.
 

CthulhuFhtagn

Banned
zeppelinair said:
Why, the US still had anti-immigration laws? They aren't refugees, they're immigrants.
Click to expand...

The US still has limits on how many immigrants can be allowed in every year. Can you imagine the chaos if Congress got together and said "everyone who makes it to American soil gets to be an American citizen!".
 

Axeman

Plumber said:
No. Communist countries have an ideological opposition to emigration because the high amounts of people (basically political refugees) willing to leave exposes the naked shit that is the utopia-in-the-making. Look up the tale of the Soviet Jews.
Click to expand...

Exactly, you aren't supposed to want to leave the worker's paradise.


The only way I can see this being feasible would be some vlad-tepes situation along the lines of Fear Loathing and Gumbo where you have the younger Mao take over China with plans of world domination by using China's vast population ( in that timeline he intentionally reverses the one child policy; the state encourages LARGE families in China ) . Fair disclosure, the younger Mao was taking a nasty cocktail of drugs that would make most musicians blush, so its not exactly a very close policy.
 
Cahaya Purnama

Cahaya Purnama

Axeman said:
Exactly, you aren't supposed to want to leave the worker's paradise.


The only way I can see this being feasible would be some vlad-tepes situation along the lines of Fear Loathing and Gumbo where you have the younger Mao take over China with plans of world domination by using China's vast population ( in that timeline he intentionally reverses the one child policy; the state encourages LARGE families in China ) . Fair disclosure, the younger Mao was taking a nasty cocktail of drugs that would make most musicians blush, so its not exactly a very close policy.
Click to expand...

plan for Chinese World domination huh?
WHAHAHAHA:cool:
 

Joseph Solis in Australia

I think China should have encouraged family-based emigration in order to transform these families into entrepreneurs when returning China, thus creating a viable entrepreneur class competing the SOEs and MNCs. Having China's being reliant on remittances will encourage consumption which would have been much better for China than right now where China is now struggling to shift from investment to consumption driven ones.

I think US would not have anymore need Mexicans to fill the cheap labor had Chinese labor was available and had US realized that the Chinese are willing to assimilate than the Mexicans, US would have a better economy than OTL.
 

Flocculencio

Donor
ramones1986 said:
Singapore is one of the options, but expect resistance from the local Chinese Singaporeans (and Singaporeans in general.)
Click to expand...

Singapore before the 1990s didn't even have diplomatic relations with the PRC. Culturally the Nanyang (SE Asian) Chinese are quite different from the Mainlanders, especially the Nanyang elites. Singapore was happy to take in middle class Hong Kongers in the run up 1997, it will not be happy to take in Mainland Chinese in the 1980s.
 
Plumber

Plumber

RousseauX said:
This was't an issue in the late 70s-80s when Deng very much wanted people to emigrate.
Click to expand...
Well, of course. He's the one who ideologically moved away from communism proper to a more rational economic system. But I think the impracticality of this plan (who would take them) as well as traditional Marxist antipathy to emigration makes this a dead letter for Deng. Now, if there were more Chinese-friendly states ITTL, I could see them going there...
 

CthulhuFhtagn

Banned
Doesn't look good for the GCGLICWRP* when people are leaving by the millions.

*Glorious Chairman's Great Leap Into Cultural Worker's Revolutionary Paradise
 

RousseauX

Donor
CthulhuFhtagn said:
Doesn't look good for the GCGLICWRP* when people are leaving by the millions.

*Glorious Chairman's Great Leap Into Cultural Worker's Revolutionary Paradise
Click to expand...

Except we are talking about the 1980s, a time when China wasn't even pretending that it was a Socialist Utopia anymore.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top
Top