WI: LBJ Expands Power of the VP

When he assumed the office of the vice presidency, Lyndon Johnson had every intention of transforming that office into a position of much greater authority. The vice presidency had always been a weak position. Even today, it has little power and influence. It was especially worse prior to Walter Mondale. The transformation into the modern vice presidency came because Hubert Humphrey had such a terrible experience being Johnson's vice president. Prior to that, it was truly not worth a bucket of piss.

Johnson wanted to give the vice president the powers of the Senate majority leader, for example. He had assumed all these things would be easily done. He was very wrong. His own allies opposed him on trying to transfer senatorial power to the vice presidency. And Kennedy opposed him when he tried to expand his powers and authority in the White House. The Kennedys assumed, probably fairly, that if you gave Johnson an inch he would take a mile, and may go so far as to try to take the White House and sideline the president. Johnson was kept busy and the president did give him some more authority, but he had only limited authority on the whole. This made Johnson a rather unhappy vice president. If left to his own devices, Johnson would have pulled a Dick Cheney in the administration, and tried to make something of a co-presidency.

What if, whether it be Kennedy being a different character or there being another president in 1960, Johnson had been allowed to run wild and do what he wanted to do with the vice presidency? What if he had gotten that expanded authority he sought?


I'll quote wikipedia for convience.
After the election, Johnson was quite concerned about the traditionally feckless nature of his new office, and set about to assume authority not allotted to the position. He initially sought a transfer of the authority of Senate majority leader to the vice presidency, since that office made him president of the Senate, but faced vehement opposition from the Democratic Caucus, including members he had counted as his supporters.[46]
Johnson sought to increase his influence within the Executive Branch; he drafted an executive order for Kennedy's signature, granting Johnson "general supervision" over matters of national security and requiring all government agencies to "cooperate fully with the vice president in the carrying out of these assignments." Kennedy's response was to sign a non-binding letter requesting Johnson to "review" national security policies instead.[47] Kennedy similarly turned down early requests from Johnson to be given an office adjacent to the Oval Office, and to employ a full-time Vice Presidential staff within the White House.[48] His lack of influence was thrown into relief later in 1961 when Kennedy appointed Johnson's friend Sarah T. Hughes to a federal judgeship; whereas Johnson had tried and failed to garner the nomination for Hughes at the beginning of his vice presidency, House Speaker Sam Rayburn wrangled the appointment from Kennedy in exchange for support of an administration bill.
Moreover, many members of the Kennedy White House, including the president's brother and Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, were contemptuous of Johnson and ridiculed his comparatively brusque, crude manner. Congressman Tip O'Neill recalled that the Kennedy men "had a disdain for Johnson that they didn't even try to hide....They actually took pride in snubbing him."[49]
Kennedy, however, made efforts to keep Johnson busy, informed, and at the White House often, telling aides "I can't afford to have my vice president, who knows every reporter in Washington, going around saying we're all screwed up, so we're going to keep him happy."[50] Kennedy appointed him to jobs such as head of the President's Committee on Equal Employment Opportunities, through which he worked with African Americans and other minorities. Though Kennedy may have intended this to remain a more nominal position, Taylor Branch in Pillar of Fire contends that Johnson served to push the Kennedy administration's actions for civil rights further and faster than Kennedy originally intended to go. Branch notes the irony of Johnson, who the Kennedy family hoped would appeal to conservative southern voters, being the advocate for civil rights. In particular he notes Johnson's Memorial Day 1963 speech at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania as being a catalyst that led to more action. Johnson took on numerous minor diplomatic missions, which gave him limited insights into global issues, as well as opportunities at self-promotion in the name of showing the country's flag. He was allowed to observe Cabinet and National Security Council meetings. Kennedy gave Johnson control over all presidential appointments involving Texas, and appointed him chairman of the President's Ad Hoc Committee for Science.[51]
Kennedy also appointed Johnson Chairman of the National Aeronautics Space Council. When, in April 1961, the Soviets beat the US with the first manned spaceflight, Kennedy tasked Johnson with evaluating the state of the US space program, and recommending a project that would allow the US to catch up or beat the Soviets.[52] Johnson responded with a recommendation that the US gain the leadership role by committing the resources to embark on a project to land an American on the Moon in the 1960s.[53][54] While Kennedy assigned priority to the space program, Johnson's appointment provided potential cover in case of a failure.[55]
 
Johnson was an amazing legislator, probably the best to occupy the presidency. Assuming he expanded the power of the presidency, and Kennedy didn't get shot, we could see some huge shifts left in America with 16 years of Johnson. (This is also assuming the strain doesn't kill him which it very well might).

But we see earlier and more pronounced civil rights legislation, more extensive affirmative action and poverty reduction programs, single payer healthcare, and more. I can scarcely imagine how awesome it would be.
 
In the 60s there was a popular comedy show called "Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In". Similar to SNL. In one sketch, Dan Rowan tells a work crew to knock down a wall to allow for the Vice-President's new office. "After he goes in, wall it up again...":p Poor Hubert.:eek:
 
If Kennedy listened to LBJ, and he got to be defacto Majority Leader. It could have been a position of power. He could have helped Kennedy pass more legislation Most of all LBJ would have been much happier.
 
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