If the ticket of Romney/Portman (that is Rob Portman, Senator from Ohio) is elected in 2012, how does the new administration handle gay marriage? Romney is against it (IIRC) but Portman came out in support of it in 2013. Obviously Portman couldn't just come out in support of it without Romney, so how is it handled? Is a compromise reached? Does Portman's view win out? Does Romney's?
Mitt and Ann Romney likely become aware that they already know one several lesbian or gay couples. And so, when the argument is advanced in this form, why shouldn't these people who you both know and respect have the same rights as everyone else? That's a difficult argument to respond to.
Plus, there's a problem with DOMA (Defense Of Marriage Act). If we say, marriage is a state matter and should be left to the states. Well, DOMA doesn't really leave it to the states.
Probably nothing. Romney was never a member of the hardcore social con wing, Obama/Biden ads not withstanding, but he also isn't a part of the libertarian wing or the quasi-liberal wing. I don't think he would feel to strongly about it personally, especially not in a timeline where he choses Portman for his running mate, but he won't move for Federal legalization either, because I suspect he would not want to anger the social cons. I think he would leave it to the states and the next administration, that way he keeps the social cons happy (and fired up against each new state legalization), he keeps the small-government types happy by not imposing a Federal solution, and he avoids serious political consequences as long as movement continues in the states and courts. He'll say as little as possible and use Portman as a shield against any attack from the left.
Americans’ Ideology and Age Drive Gay Marriage Views, ABC News, Greg Holyk, Jun 6, 2014.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=258783498
' . . Most Americans overall, 56 percent, support allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally, not significantly different from the all-time high, 59 percent, three months ago, and a majority consistently since crossing that line in early 2011. Thirty-eight percent are opposed. . '
' . . METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone May 29-June 1, 2014, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,002 adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents.Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points, including design effect. . '
http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/california-hbos-movie-on-prop-8/
' . . Since the Supreme Court struck down California’s Prop 8 on June 26, 2013, more than fifty lawsuits have been filed challenging similar marriage bans in other states.'
The following is a ABC News poll from June:
So, yes, a President Romney may try to deflect and not get involved in this issue, but all the same, people may expect him to get involved. It sometimes works out that way when you're president.
So does that mean Portman would have to stay quiet on it until his post Vice-Presidency?
Of course. Just like Cheney.
Relentless bigotry and support for denying gay and lesbian couples equal rights. Portman's kid is pressured not to come out openly, lest he make things awkward, but ends up on Gawker.
And on June 26, 2013, the Supreme Court ruled in her favor. I think we need to come up to speed, for things are moving fast afoot and are no longer merely hypothetical.http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-perfect-wife?currentPage=all
' . . She had to pay $363,053 in taxes to the federal government, and $275,528 to New York State, and she did not think that was fair. So, with the help of her attorney, Roberta Kaplan, Windsor sued the United States. “When I saw it in print on the brief—Edith Windsor v. the United States of America—for a moment I panicked,” she said. “Then I thought, If Robbie’s not terrified, I’m not terrified.” . '
I don't know why you keep posting this information about OTL here, especially these last two posts which don't even address a hypothetical Romney presidency at all. Again, unless Kennedy retires at the beginning of the Romney presidency, all of this will still happen.Edie Windsor is the nice, personable older lady.
And on June 26, 2013, the Supreme Court ruled in her favor. I think we need to come up to speed, for things are moving fast afoot and are no longer merely hypothetical.
That's kind of my point. All of this likely will still happen, except a Romney Justice Department might feel they have to defend DOMA. And that may not make a difference to June 26, 2013.Again, unless Kennedy retires at the beginning of the Romney presidency, all of this will still happen.
That's kind of my point. All of this likely will still happen, except a Romney Justice Department might feel they have to defend DOMA. And that may not make a difference to June 26, 2013.