Make ''Revenge of the Sith'' be considered one of the best flims of all time

Hello everyone, we all know the Star Wars Story ended in 2005 with ''Revenge of the Sith'' coming out. It finally told how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, and how Palpatine became Galactic Emperor.

Most critics considered it a good movie, and best of the prequals. I myself think its the best Star Wars movie.

Your goal, is to make ''Revenge of the Sith'' be considered one of the greatest movies of all time, WITHOUT changing any of the other star wars movies.

Meaning all the others must have the same story and actors.

Good Luck, and May the Force be with!

U.S David said:

Hello everyone, we all know the Star Wars Story ended in 2005 with ''Revenge of the Sith'' coming out. It finally told how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, and how Palpatine became Galactic Emperor.

Most critics considered it a good movie, and best of the prequals. I myself think its the best Star Wars movie.

Your goal, is to make ''Revenge of the Sith'' be considered one of the greatest movies of all time, WITHOUT changing any of the other star wars movies.

Meaning all the others must have the same story and actors.

Good Luck, and May the Force be with!

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I'll say it before someone else does.

Maybe this should be moved to the ASB section.

Shocking reveal that *ba dum tsh*

Padme is at Palpatine's side all along, and everything she has done is for furthering the cause of the Sith.

Anakin is torn between his love and his duty as a Jedi, but while he tries to hide Padme's involvement in ths Sith plot, Dooku gave anonymous tip about Palpatine and Padme.

Anakin and Obi-Wan confront Dooku as original ROTS, with Palpy as hostage, but at the same time, Windu and Co arrest Padme. Anakin is distraught, but Obi-Wan managed to kill Dooku, they escape.

Anakin try to bust Padme out of Jedi jail and run somewhere else, Yoda and Obi-Wan tries to intercept them, but Obi-Wan end up accidentally mortally wounding Padme, who still run with Anakin.

Palpatine calls order 66, most Jedi are killed, while Padme dies after childbirth because of Obi-Wan's. Anakin is consumed by grief before Obi-Wan appeared again and trying to reason with him. Anakin is wounded, his arm and legs cut and plunged into lava/chemicals/acids. Only to be saved by Palpatine. Obi-Wan decides to hide Anakin and Padme's children.

Ah yeah, this way, darth Vader's story ends up more tragic, and it will be seen as he really love Padme... (Not end up killing her in anger). Obi-Wan will be painted as a villain. And Jedi order will be seen as self righteous pricks they really are.

Son of Leman Russ said:

Shocking reveal that *ba dum tsh*

Padme is at Palpatine's side all along, and everything she has done is for furthering the cause of the Sith.

Anakin is torn between his love and his duty as a Jedi, but while he tries to hide Padme's involvement in ths Sith plot, Dooku gave anonymous tip about Palpatine and Padme.

Anakin and Obi-Wan confront Dooku as original ROTS, with Palpy as hostage, but at the same time, Windu and Co arrest Padme. Anakin is distraught, but Obi-Wan managed to kill Dooku, they escape.

Anakin try to bust Padme out of Jedi jail and run somewhere else, Yoda and Obi-Wan tries to intercept them, but Obi-Wan end up accidentally mortally wounding Padme, who still run with Anakin.

Palpatine calls order 66, most Jedi are killed, while Padme dies after childbirth because of Obi-Wan's. Anakin is consumed by grief before Obi-Wan appeared again and trying to reason with him. Anakin is wounded, his arm and legs cut and plunged into lava/chemicals/acids. Only to be saved by Palpatine. Obi-Wan decides to hide Anakin and Padme's children.

Ah yeah, this way, darth Vader's story ends up more tragic, and it will be seen as he really love Padme... (Not end up killing her in anger). Obi-Wan will be painted as a villain. And Jedi order will be seen as self righteous pricks they really are.

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Thats good, but what about Obi-Wan being painted as the villain? That would conflict with the idea of him being the old wise teacher/mentor from the Orinigal movies.

Skip Episode One and have it be Episode Two as TTL episode one-some other film as TTL episode two-Episode Three. The whole thing hangs together much better then without Episode One, and there's almost nothing in Episode One that's vital to 2 and 3.
(Probably shift around a few plot elements to the middle film, like having the gradual slide from "the Geonosis Incident" into the full civil war, and showing the Jedi becoming gradually more warlike. Also show the shift as Coruscant becomes more war-torn over the course of the second and third films - generally speaking, make it clear how the Republic becomes the Empire, and how in a civil war there's not necessarily a 'good' side. Finally, have a substantial fraction of the Jedi support the CIS.)

U.S David said:

Thats good, but what about Obi-Wan being painted as the villain? That would conflict with the idea of him being the old wise teacher/mentor from the Orinigal movies.

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The movie fails to fit in with the original Star Wars. In the original movie Obi Wan says "He was a good friend".

But...Where was the friendship? I saw no sign of Anakin and Obi Wan being good friends. They could barely stand each other throughout the prequels.

And what about the polite sabre battle on the Death Star between Obi Wan and Vader in the original. "We meet again. When I left you I was but a learner..."
Not Oh my god you cut off my arms and legs and left me burning on fire!

Yoda runs away from the emperor because he fell a few feet.

Darth Vader doesn't try to find out what happened to Padme and had no idea she had twins! Wouldn't a master of the force know a woman had twins in her womb etc etc.

To be make ROTS the best movie ever is impossible. Making it the best of the Star Wars franchise is an uphill task.

I think that the only way ROTS could be remembered as a "good movie" is if massive amounts of hallucinogenic drugs had been secretly administered to the moviegoing audience.

Vikingstar said:

I think that the only way ROTS could be remembered as a "good movie" is if massive amounts of hallucinogenic drugs had been secretly administered to the moviegoing audience.

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that would lead to psychosis and panic attacks. not pleasant.

I think it's doable. You'd need to completely re-write the plot and dialogue, of course, but it's doable. For one thing, cut out the romantic crap. Yes, it's all well and good that Anakin turned because he loves Padme so damned much, but the ending there was just...ugh. A good way to incorporate both the romance, the broken heart element, and the feelings of betrayal towards Obi Wan would be to make it so that Padme isn't the virtuous women Anakin think she is, and that she really pines after Obi Wan despite the latter not being interested (since he's, ya know, a Jedi and all).

As Anakin slips deeper and deeper into this idea that a dictatorship is some benevolent way to make the trains run on time, Padme starts to realise that their relationship isn't going to work. Have it revealed that Obi Wan knows about it, but out of love for both his former apprentice and his old friend, he's kept his mouth shut. Padme therefore can be seen confiding in Obi Wan about Anakin's inner turmoils, and Obi Wan in turn tries to help Anakin.

Of course, it goes the wrong way, because Anakin interprets the growing rift between himself and Padme and the apparent warmness between Padme and Obi Wan as a scandal, turning his back on Obi Wan. In his anger, he goes to Palpatine (who is still his close friend and confident) and confesses that he is angry and hurt and that he's frustrated with the Jedi and with Obi Wan. Palpatine takes this chance to capitalise on Anakin's inner darkness to turn him. Of course, Anakin goes to Mace Windu, tells him about Palpatine, and Mace and the other three masters confront him. This is the part where we make this lightsaber duel much better, without slaying three out of four Jedi masters (and council members) in the blink of an eye. Despite his power, Palpatine is still an old man.

Anakin shows up just as Mace is about to gut Palpatine, duels Mace himself (because it's not a good Star Wars film without lightsaber battles) but because Mace is so exhausted, Anakin bests him. "What have I done," falls to his knees, tells Palpatine he needs to leave to come to terms with his choices. Palpatine allows this, because he knows that Anakin will be his in the end.

Anakin goes to Padme, confesses what he's done and how he's feeling, and she ends things with him. He blames Obi Wan, returns to Palpatine, Order 66 is executed.

I found Revenge of the Sith to be by far the most enjoyable movie of the series to watch.

-Completely rewrite all 3 prequels (Can't do it, without doing this there'd still be too many bad feelings to have RoTS considered anything but decent)
-Find someone that can actually write dialogue
-No kid Anakin
-No Hayden Christensen or Natalie Portman
-Give Ewan McGregor/Kenobi a much larger role

To fix it I think that most of all the dialogue needs to be fixed throughout the film, apart from that I'd make some alterations to the third act.

For a start, have Anakin show he's got some regrets about turning against the Jedi. When the assault on the Temple comes rather then lead the assault and going about chopping up children he just opens up the doors and watches as the clones go about it. When he finds the younglings who ask him to help, instead of killing them he goes outside, tells a clone and then we get a shot of a saddened Anakin who's face is lit by off screen blaster fire as he listens to the scream of the children. He's towing the Sith line but he is clearly not fully over to the dark side yet.

When it comes to Mustafar, Padme is about to leave the cockpit but she gets locked in by Obi-Wan, who's left his hiding place as she was shutting down the engines. He emerges from the ship to confront Anakin and Obi-Wan asks about his relationship with Padme and if that's why he's doing this. Anakin tells all and he and after a brief moment of debating horribly corrupt democracy vs efficient authoritarianism, the two of them have a "If you'd come to me we could have avoided this" moment. Throw in a shot of Padme listening to this as she tries to unlock the door so that she actually has a reason to say "There's still good in him", because now that he's explained himself she thinks that Anakin has done horrible things for good reasons, and maybe she can eventually forgive him for it.

Anakin tells Obi-Wan to run and hide and he'll tell Sidious that he fell into the lava, to cover up his death and to reinforce their friendship one last time. Obi-Wan tells Anakin that he can't go into hiding, he and Yoda are going to end the Sith forever, Anakin yells that he needs Sidious and Obi-Wan tells him that he's sorry but the Sith must be destroyed for the good of the Galaxy and when Anakin asks if that includes him and ignites his lightsabre, Obi-Wan gives him a chance to come back to the light or he will be forced to fight him and he wants with all his heart not too, his activates his blade and they circle each other, neither one wanting to make the first move.

Padme at this point escapes the cockpit and emerges from the ship and when he sees her Anakin flies into a rage against Obi-Wan for bringing her to Mustafar, any number of things on this planet could hurt a woman as heavily pregnant as her. Padme stands between them to try and stop the fight from starting but as Anakin only grows angrier Obi-Wan decides to remove with a force push her so that the two men don't accidental hit her with a lightsaber but Anakin takes this as a sign that Obi-Wan is about to attack and swings his lightsaber over his head, to protect Padme from Obi-Wan and to force him away from her. Because of this Obi-Wan puts too much force into the push and Padme goes flying into the ship and falls to the ground, unconscious. Anakin completely loses it and what follows is basically the light sabre battle of the film, because I don't think anyone hates that battle.

With Anakin lying burning on the sands Obi-Wan takes Padme and flees and eventually Sidious arrives to rescue him. When Anakin awakes as Darth Vader, Sidious doesn't tell him that "in your anger you killed her" just that Padme's body has shown up on Naboo and both she and the children she carried were dead. Vader pulls fixtures from the walls, briefly mumbling that "even Obi-Wan wouldn't have" and gives his big noooooo, then with a brief cut to a smiling Sidious who's won everything, Darth Vader falls to the ground and starts sobbing, something out a bit of character but good I think just to show how Anakin Skywalker is now both physically and mentally an utterly broken man.

I do think that one small detail with that battle could have been changed if only to make a bigger impact. Partway through the fight, Obi Wan destroys Anakin's lightsaber, and for a moment dialogue resumes, including Obi Wan desperately begging Anakin to come back to the light. Anakin instead withdraws a second lightsaber, his red Darth Vader saber, and resumes the duel.

This small detail could tip the movie's impact on the audience I think, as the switch from a blue blade to a red blade would be symbolic of him being lost completely to the Jedi. Thoughts?

Emperor-of-New-Zealand said:

I do think that one small detail with that battle could have been changed if only to make a bigger impact. Partway through the fight, Obi Wan destroys Anakin's lightsaber, and for a moment dialogue resumes, including Obi Wan desperately begging Anakin to come back to the light. Anakin instead withdraws a second lightsaber, his red Darth Vader saber, and resumes the duel.

This small detail could tip the movie's impact on the audience I think, as the switch from a blue blade to a red blade would be symbolic of him being lost completely to the Jedi. Thoughts?

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Creates a plot hole, since Obi-Wan gives that same lightsaber to Luke in ANH.

I think it works fine as is. Maybe it could be a little darker.

Devolved said:

And what about the polite sabre battle on the Death Star between Obi Wan and Vader in the original. "We meet again. When I left you I was but a learner..."
Not Oh my god you cut off my arms and legs and left me burning on fire!

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I think the line by Vader was more to reflect that he was just learning the ways of the dark side and now he is a master of the dark side and therefore can finally win against Obi Wan.

This goes for all the prequels but cut down that ridiculous 9 hour light sabre fight at the end and give the fight some heart rather than cold, clinical choreography.

Portray Anakin and Obi-Wan as friends so the 'betrayal' actually has emotion to it.

Ripped straight from RLM but it would be exciting to see Palpatine (might clear up if he actually planned it the whole time) get kidnapped in a daring Confederate attack and to show damage to the planet, give a sense that a war is going on and its effecting the people of the Republic.

Show more of the Emperor because he was the most entertaining character in the film because he had GASP!... emotions.

Having Anakin build C3PO was bad enough cut out Chewbacca.

Fix the "Noooooooooo" scene, for obvious reasons.

Completely cut out that weird lizard/speeder chase battle thing between Obi-Wan and General Grievance

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I think that stuff might make it better but really its so encumbered with garbage I don't think it could ever be made one of the greatest films of all time if you have the same cast, plot arc and creative team.

I actually hate this film (yes hate because I'm a nerd with nothing better to do) more than the other prequels because they're incompetent and boring but this is just a nail in the coffin with tedious battles, plot pile ups and forced 'darkness' like the hilarious Younglings scene.

Without changing the other movies? Impossible.

If you could then I'd say drop the Phantom Menace (trade negotiations? Seriously Lucas, that's the best you could come up with?), go straight to the Clone Wars, make Anakin a war orphan with no known parents or something, and get the writing team from the CGI Clone Wars series instead of Lucas' hamfisted garbage. They managed to take the Hayden Christensen mess and turn Anakin into a sympathetic, complex, deeply flawed, but somewhat loveable and highly believable and conflicted character who would be the kind of character that would tear you up inside to see him fall.

You also need some kind of Han Solo-esque everyman kind of character to ground the whole thing and serve as a solid counterpoint to everyone else. The lack of such a character in the prequels meant you had too many one dimensional cardboard good vs evil characters running around without someone there to throw in good snark, call everyone on their self-righteousness, and shake things up.

Oh and above all else throw the entire concept of midichlorians into the fires of Mustafar

Being considered "one of the best movies of all time" is basically impossible; none of the Star Wars movies is considered that OTL, and that's coming from someone who liked all of the original trilogy, including ROTJ. Don't get me wrong, they're good movies, but "best of all time" is the sort of critical label that generally gets put on deeper, more artistic movies. That would be the case even if George Lucas hadn't poisoned the well with the previous two films (no sane critic is going to risk his/her reputation to award the "best of all time" label to a film that comes from the mind that recently gave us Jar-Jar Binks).

I'll leave others to discuss the flaws of the movie itself (and it has many, although not as bad as its predecessors).

I like the idea of Skywalker as a war orphan. You could also make him the everyman (paralleling Luke), have him be a little bit older when we first see him and as he gets dragged into the Jedi way and galactic politics we see it through his eyes.

A snarky character for comic relief (no Jar Jar and C3PO don't count) would be fun.

And yes, bugger midichlorians.