WI: Rick Santorum won the GOP nomination in 2012

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Santorum was economically to the left of Romney. I'm pretty sure the Tea Party base would still insist that he wasn't conservative enough.
 
Obama wins in an even bigger landslide, not sure of the exact breakdown but it's going to be rough. Santorum is so gaffe prone he makes Joe Biden look like JFK, and he's got...weird stuff in his personal life that wouldn't play well nationally.
 
Obama wins in an even bigger landslide, not sure of the exact breakdown but it's going to be rough. Santorum is so gaffe prone he makes Joe Biden look like JFK, and he's got...weird stuff in his personal life that wouldn't play well nationally.
Does Santorum get the GOP platform to include restrictions on contraception?

Anyway, you'd see teevee ads of one Clean Cut American(tm) sitting at a computer with another standing by advising them "Just Google Santorum."
<clickety click>
"Eeew. And they expect me to vote for this guy?"
 
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Obama 398 EV
Santorum 140 EV
(Obama wins NC, Georgia, Arizona, Missouri, Indiana, & Montana)
 
Does Santorum get the GOP platform to include restrictions on contraception?

Anyway, you'd see teevee ads of one Clean Cut American(tm) sitting at a computer with another standing by advising them "Just Google Santorum."
<clickety click>
"Eeew. And they expect me to vote for this guy?"

Oh God that would be hilarious. Of course Obama would have no *idea* what his supporters were thinking until after they'd done it, and when he stopped giggling would probably condemn the puerile attitudes the ad reflected. And then start giggling again.
 

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I'd be more interested in hearing about Dave Mustaine's vice-presidential debate with Biden.
 
he's got...weird stuff in his personal life that wouldn't play well nationally.
Such as?

Anyway, you'd see teevee ads of one Clean Cut American(tm) sitting at a computer with another standing by advising them "Just Google Santorum."
<clickety click>
"Eeew. And they expect me to vote for this guy?"
You mean the smear campaign by Dan Savage, redefining the word? I think if the Democrats tried it would backfire massively.

Of course, Bush managed to 'swiftboat' Kerry, so deliberate political lies can get traction. Not to mention braindead Birthers and the 'Obama is a Muslim' meme.
 

From what I recall, after his wife miscarried they brought the fetus home and treated it like there newborn child for a week, then buried it in the backyard. It's understandable, but would also probably strike people as, well, pretty weird.

He's also got a real propensity for putting his foot in his mouth. He's not a strong debater, and has positions on social issues that would not play well in the General Election. I think Marky Bunny is being optimistic with that Electoral College map.
 
I'd be more interested in hearing about Dave Mustaine's vice-presidential debate with Biden.

This. It would probably devolve into name calling where Mustaine would call Biden a "motophysco," threatens to "Crush 'Em" in the election, and tells the American public that the New Wolrd Order from a order of the President can call US citizens enemy combatants as part of an "Endgame."
 
Santorum was economically to the left of Romney. I'm pretty sure the Tea Party base would still insist that he wasn't conservative enough.

I'm sure some of them would, yes. Despite what some like to say, the Tea Party is not homogeneous. Just like some tried to say Obama "wasn't black enough," there would be those who claimed any Republican nominated was less right-wing on this policy than they wanted, or not centrist enough on that policy, etc...
 
Santorum was economically to the left of Romney. I'm pretty sure the Tea Party base would still insist that he wasn't conservative enough.

Doesn't matter. The Savage imbroglio has pretty much written him off from winning the general.

As for contraception, I recall him pretty much stating that Griswold was settled law, he had no intention of challenging it, and was going to merely use his newfound bully pulpit to encourage Americans to lay off the contraception a little, voluntarily - essentially guilt the American people into it.

And as I recall it, they did keep the body, but more like you would keep a dead family member's corpse in the parlor until burial, and then bury it with funeral rites and all that. Basically treated the fetus as a child that died at birth. Which from a Catholic standpoint isn't weird at all (my grandmother did the same thing several times when she miscarried, even had them buried at the local cemetery), but given what a lot of Americans (remember America is still largely Protestant-by-default) seem to do, pretty weird.
 
For the POD I would have the issue of birth control does not come up and Santorium wins the Michigan primary. I see a popular vote Obama 56 percent Santorium 40 percent Johnson 3 percent. eElectoral Vote Obama 408 Santorium 130 That's the OTL Obama states plus Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, 2nd District of Nebraska. aArizona and Montana.
 
Never underestimate AH.com's ability underestimate Rick Santorum.....


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This is the most likely map. While most posts are correct that Santorum is the most unelectable candidate in recent memory, I don't see how he losses Georgia or South Carolina.

From what I recall, after his wife miscarried they brought the fetus home and treated it like there newborn child for a week, then buried it in the backyard. It's understandable, but would also probably strike people as, well, pretty weird.


He's also got a real propensity for putting his foot in his mouth. He's not a strong debater, and has positions on social issues that would not play well in the General Election. I think Marky Bunny is being optimistic with that Electoral College map.
I am not a fan of Santorum's at all, but that is simply not what happened. What they did was odd, but it wasn't as weird as you make it. The second paragraph is generally correct, besides the last sentence, which I disagree with.
 
I don't see Obama winning a 1964-Esque victory, but he can slightly outdo his 2008 performance. But only slightly. Santorum's floor is 42% IMO.
 
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