CthulhuFhtagn
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With a PoD any time after 1900, make Australia a rogue state, similar to North Korea in OTL.
AHC: Australia a Rogue State
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CthulhuFhtagn
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You guys are "rogue" in the cool, charming Han Solo/Tim Cahill sense. I'm talking about "rogue" in the batshit insane, nuclear weapons threatening dictatorship sense.
Redhand
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Rogue state might be hard with all of the treaties with the US and New Zealand
but being a pariah state who doesn't care about what the world thinks could be achieved by simply keeping policies about the Aboriginals from 1930s in place to the modern day. They were of course horrible and likely to draw in world condemnation much like South Africa and apartheid.
but being a pariah state who doesn't care about what the world thinks could be achieved by simply keeping policies about the Aboriginals from 1930s in place to the modern day. They were of course horrible and likely to draw in world condemnation much like South Africa and apartheid.
Yeah. Australia as a closed off, impoverished hellhole is pretty hard to do.
Australia as a state with few international friends, some unsavory policies, and a general decision to go at it alone is quite a bit easier, and there are a number of ways to go about this, including a more nationalist US that is more eager to press its claims and dominance in the Pacific.
I resent the fact that we would need nukes to be officially considered batshit insane.
Redhand
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Exactly, all you would need to do is start threatening to force feed foreigners Vegemite and the entire world would cut off diplomatic relations with you. That disgusting paste should make Australia hated already.
Who was the Labor leader a few years back who allegedly tried to handcrush John Howard, and run over a journalist with his car? Maybe find a way to get that guy in a position of absolute power, though the POD might be a little too late.
not on north Korea's league but I think some sort of Rhodesian country that result from greater immigration in the 19th century followed by a stronger white australia policy could be feasible.
Lets say that blackbirding in Queensland is even stronger and add to that chinese and mid-eastern labour introducted to work on various but after their term of employement was over, few had the money to leave and the government found it cheaper to keep them as resident alien to serve as cheap labour. Eventually, non-whites are still a minority but a sizeable one and treated increasingly harshly.
SunDeep
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What about an ATL which starts out with the British forcing Australia to revoke the White Australia Policy after WW1? This in turn leads to a backlash, turning Australian popular opinion against the British, and leading to them breaking away from the Commonwealth in the interwar years to become a full republic. In the Republic of Australia, with popular anti-ethnic minority sentiment in the wake of their full independence, the Australian Fascists of the New Guard or Centre Party succeed in seizing power, reinstating a harsher, more rigidly enforced version of the White Australia policy, and forcing those from ethnic minority communities into labor camps- which would later become concentration camps, after the 'Australianazis' enter the Axis Pact, and enter the war on their side. After they get into spats with the Japanese over the Dutch East Indies though, the Australianazi regime breaks away from the Axis and joins the Allies in the latter stages of the war, allowing their regime to emerge from WW2 and remain in power- but when the Australian concentration camps' existence is revealed, they soon become a pariah nation.
Its a matter of colour and portrayal. Current and long standing racial policies in Australia are contemptible and involve (amongst other rogue acts) the abrogation of international convention and the concentration of civilians in pestilent camps.
yours,
Sam R.
I don't know about you guys but I think this premise is beyond ASB. Heck we have a better chance of making Japan a rogue state than Australia with a POD after 1918 (which I do find that idea quite fascinating).
CthulhuFhtagn
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The PoD is after 1900, not 1918. Is it really "beyond ASB" for a resource-rich nation to become a brutal dictatorship?