A Sun Setting...a slightly :) different Second World War

Erin Go Bragh

December 8th, 1941. 11:57 am. Franklin Delano Roosevelt is outside the entrance to the House of Representatives chamber in the Capitol, speaking to Harry Hopkins. There are many Secret Service agents around...about triple the President's normal detail.

"Are you ready, Mr. President?"

"As ready as I ever will be, Harry. I had hoped things wouldn't come to this...but here we are, and there is only one thing we can do, as a people, and as a nation."

Just then the doors to the House chamber open. The President is announced, and as he makes his way to the podium there is an ovation lasting several minutes. Finally, the room quiets, and FDR begins his speech, the one that will be known for all time...

"Mr. Vice President, and Mr. Speaker, and Members of the Senate and House of Representatives...

Yesterday--December 7th, 1941--a date which will live in infamy--the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval, air, and land forces of the British Empire..."
 

Zheng He

Let's see where this goes. I am definitely interested in seeing the PODs that brought the world to this point...
 

Erin Go Bragh

And no, I didn't give away the ending, not by any means :) :) :).

I've had this idea percolating for quite a while...hopefully you all will find it an interesting ride...just remember, even the closest of families can blow up into war, given the right spark(s)...
 

Sior

Banned
Sorry Britain can't take your surrender; we don’t have the room for that many prisoners!
 
Yuelang

Yuelang

Banned
I smell Japan paints their aircrafts and ships with British colours for one hell of a false flag attacks...

might as well dress their crews in British Uniform, complete with fish and chips rations and earl grey tea as their drink. And dye their hairs red and blonde...

Long Story short... Welcome to Axis powers Amerika, here's your complimentary welcome beer and bratwursts.
 
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jkay

The problem's that FDR knew about false flags and was expecing a Japanese attack. And so would've asked what language the prisoners and broadcasts were talking. And found out.

False flags are common in the naval world, and FDR was raised a naval geek.

And, also he would've been warned that it could be false flag.

Sorry, it's the coolest idea.
 

Erin Go Bragh

I'm going to have to reboot this in a few days--my husband, who's actually a professor of history, pointed out a critical error when he perused my notes.

And BTW, no one has come CLOSE to my POD :) :) :).
 

Amakan

Another idea that has been discussed many times in the past, but never executed.

I'm already hooked. :cool:

As for a POD: Perhaps the Anglo-Japanese alliance is preserved, or a second emerges in the 1930s? And somehow the US has been trying to stir trouble in their colonies, so a decision is made to retaliate?
Either way, looking forward to more. :D
 
Historyman 14

Historyman 14

Amakan said:
Another idea that has been discussed many times in the past, but never executed.

I'm already hooked. :cool:

As for a POD: Perhaps the Anglo-Japanese alliance is preserved, or a second emerges in the 1930s? And somehow the US has been trying to stir trouble in their colonies, so a decision is made to retaliate?
Either way, looking forward to more. :D
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If that the case, hopeful Japan will turn on the English and get a good deal.
 
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