Revolution of 1905 Succeeds, the Soviet Union is established prior to World War I

How would World War I have been different if, the Revolution of 1905 succeeded and the Soviet Union replaced the Russian Empire? Would Vladimir Lenin have gotten involved in the situation in Europe or stayed neutral?
 
How would World War I have been different if, the Revolution of 1905 succeeded and the Soviet Union replaced the Russian Empire? Would Vladimir Lenin have gotten involved in the situation in Europe or stayed neutral?
Basicly, there would be no WWI like OTL, since Russia was effectively the deciding factor in the situation becoming a world war. I realy doubt France would remain allied with Russia, if Russia was communist, and without its alliance with Russia, France would not declare war on Germany and Germany would not declare war on France without a good reason.

This is assuming of course that you can actualy get a succesful revoltion in 1905.
 
Would a successful revolution in 1905 create anything like the Soviet Union though? I think it's more likely they would try for a more conventional liberal democracy on western lines.
 
I doubt that revolution can product similar state what Lenin created. Bolsheviks weren't yet so strong and Russia wasn't on so bad state as on 1917. Might be even difficult create republic. But surely there can't be communist Russia on 1905 yet.

And this is on wrong sub-forum.
 
I doubt that revolution can product similar state what Lenin created. Bolsheviks weren't yet so strong and Russia wasn't on so bad state as on 1917. Might be even difficult create republic. But surely there can't be communist Russia on 1905 yet.

And this is on wrong sub-forum.
Yeah, even in 1917 the February revolution attempted to go with an abidcation of the Emperor and see what happens government first. Of course even by then the Petrograd Soviet was around and the writing on the wall was showing the situation was clearly getting out of hand in favor of the Soviets.
 
Would a successful revolution in 1905 create anything like the Soviet Union though? I think it's more likely they would try for a more conventional liberal democracy on western lines.

Agreed, Lenin would not only be less politically entrenched but much younger. You're likely to see a different set of leadership and thus nothing truly resembling the Soviet Union of OTL.
 

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I agree that a successful revolution in 1905 would have been unlikely to produce something akin to the Soviet Union. It might have played out more like King John and the Magna Carta and eventually settled into a constrained, constitutional monarchy with the czar somewhat a figurehead.

In any case, assuming the changes affected policies somewhat like a communist Russia would, then it really changes the outlook for WWI. Russia would still champion serbs in the Balkans, but wouldn't likely have a treaty with France. Thus, Germany wouldn't be so focused on preparing for a 2 front war. This might, instead, lead to another Balkan war instead of WW I, while France, Germany, and (maybe) the UK might have some separate conflict with a different spark.
 
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