Austria inside: a Greater German Empire TL

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Vienna, January of 1867. Emperor Franz Josef I looks at a big map of the Austrian Empire lying over his table. He has painted in blue the areas still occupied by the Prussian Army. The war against the Prussians is technically over, but the treaty of peace is pending to be signed.

Franz Josef has called some of the men he can trust in such a difficult moment: “You can’t see in this map how bad our situation now is” he says to them. “It is not only the fact the Prussians have invaded the Bohemian lands or they are around this city; it is the bankruptcy of the Imperial Treasure; it is our Army, completely defeated and demoralized; it is the Hungarian magnates claiming for their independence; it is our friend nations not wanting to help us, because they do not want to upset the Prussians; it is…the end.” The dramatic words of the Emperor cause a terrifying impact among his audience.

For the first time, Franz Josef pronounces the word ‘abdication’. Of course, many of his advisers try to make him to reconsider the idea. But his decision is firm: “During the last months I have searched the way to save the Empire, but unfortunately there is no way. The only thing I can do is trying to save as much as possible for Austria and the dynasty. I will never accept to become an Emperor only by name, ruling in the dark the broken pieces left by the Prussians. We are not going to like this, but a new time has begun.”



Last Austrian Emperor, Franz Josef I.


The following days, the Emperor calls the Prussians for a Conference of Peace to be set in Prague by the end of March. Prussian King Wilhelm accepts the offer; he and other Prussian officers have been pushing for obtaining territorial concessions and subduing Austria to the Prussian foreign policies, against the opinion of the Prussian chancellor Otto von Bismarck, whose anti-Catholic and anti-Liberal ideas made him to want Austria out of the Prussian sphere.

Of course, not only Austria and Prussia will attend the Conference of Prague: France, Italy, Russia and the other German states will be present; the United Kingdom and the Ottoman Empire are entitled to send observers. The Hungarian magnates will send their own representation, after an official threat of the Diet of proclaiming a unilateral independence if they were not invited as a separate delegation.

Franz Josef will try to save much of his power for his son, Prince Rudolf. Considering that the Austrian Army has lost the effective control over the Bohemian lands, Silesia, Galicia and Hungary, and that there will be no foreign power ready to help them this time, he can only hope to retain the German Austrian provinces and Carniola. However, the Austrian chancellor, Count Belcredi, is going to propose the establishment of a Triple Monarchy between Austria, Hungary and Bohemia.

Prior to the Conference of Prague, the other powers also establish their demands and proposals: Prussia wants to control the Bohemian lands as a separate member of their planned Northern German Confederation; Hungary wants full independence, but Russia wants to prevent it, unless some important compensation (Galicia) is offered; Italy wants the Veneto and Trentino from Austria, and France wants to back Italian claims and obtain some compensation from Prussia due to their neutrality (Luxembourg).
 
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Well, if the Prussians want the Bohemian lands, they will get them, as they are already in occupation. So unless any other power cares enough to oust them by force (doubtful) there they stay. Belcredi can whistle for it.
 
CHAPTER I: THE END OF AN EMPIRE.
THE CONFERENCE OF PRAGUE.


At the beginning of the Conference of Prague (March 1867), Austrian Emperor Franz Josef I announces his firm intention of abdicate the Crown in favor of his only son Prince Rudolf (future Rudolf III), who is eight years old at that moment, regardless the outcome of the conference.

The delegation of the Kingdom of Prussia, as the main winner side, only demands, besides the usual reparations, the concession of the Lands of Bohemia (Bohemia, Moravia and Austrian Silesia), which were in fact occupied by Prussian troops at that time. The intention of the Prussians is setting a puppet state, ruled by a German prince, which would be integrated in the planned North German Confederation, set to succeed the defunct German Confederation.

However, the Russians oppose such move unless the whole territory of Galicia is conceded to them, Cracow included. Neither Prussia nor Austria want to approve such concession, so they finally agree with Russia a more Solomonic decision: the new Principality of Bohemia and Moravia will be an Austrian subject under the authority of the King of Austria, but also a member state of the North German Confederation, granting that the state will be ‘co-ruled’ de facto by Prussia and Austria; in the other hand, Galicia will be divided in four parts: the duchy of Cracow, as a separate Austrian subject; the northern districts, including Lemberg, will be conceded to Russia; the southern districts will be ceded to Hungary and Bukovina and the surrounding districts will be ceded to (still Turkish) Moldavia.

Meanwhile, the Hungarian magnates push hard for the recognition of the Kingdom of Hungary as a fully independent state. They have even agreed on the candidate for the throne, count Laszló Teleki de Szék; after a harsh process of negotiations, the Kingdom of Hungary is recognized by the European powers, but under several conditions:

· Hungary has to cede the Western Strip (an area populated by ethnic Germans, including cities like Pressburg, Ödenburg and Stein am Anger) to Austria. As compensation, Hungary receives the southern Galician districts.
· Hungary has to grant self-government for the Transylvanian Saxons in its written Constitution.
· Hungary has to recognize the independence of the Kingdom of Croatia.
· Hungary should follow a neutral foreign policy, which will be observed by all the powers present at the Conference.


Laszló Teleki de Szék, first King of the restored Kingdom of Hungary.

Thus, Austria ensures that German Hungarians are either re-attached to Austria or be protected through self-government; while Russia establishes a neutral buffer state between them and the Austrians and Ottomans, and grants the independence for the fellow Slavs in Croatia.

The Kingdom of Croatia is created upon Hungarian and Austrian Dalmatian territories. As well as Hungary, the new state is entitled to follow a neutral foreign policy. Ban Josip Sokcevic will receive the new title of King of Croatia, as a compromise between Austria and Hungary for not imposing rulers of their actual dynasties.


Josip Sokcevic, first King of the newly created Kingdom of Croatia.

Regarding France and Italy, these two countries will perceive the results of the Conference as a diplomatic failure for them. Even if the other powers recognize the Italian annexation of Venice, further claims like Trentino, Monfalcone or Istria are all rejected by Prussia, despite being formal allies at the War. But Prussians think that Italy is becoming increasingly influenced by France and prefer to not boost their power in areas like the Alps or the Adriatic, considering that Venice is prize enough for the Italians.

The French Empire fails in getting nothing from the Conference. Only the exclusion of Luxembourg and Limburg from the new North German Federation; however, Prussia warns France against trying to annex Luxembourg without Prussian consent.

As collateral non-written effects of the Conference, Austria, as long as the other southern German states like Bavaria or Württemberg, remain strongly tied to the Prussian foreign policies, which are leading to a conflict against France.

Emperor Franz Josef officially abdicates on December 31st,, but he stays as regent of King Rudolf III until he turns 16. The Emperor's brother Karl Ludwig takes the titles of Prince of Bohemia-Moravia and Duke of Cracow, thus ensuring the Bohemian allegiance to Vienna, despite being now tied to Prussia through the North German Confederation. The New Year 1868 also sees the newborn Kingdoms of Hungary and Croatia.

Map of the outcome of the Conference of Prague (1867):

Austria1867.png
 
very nice timeline, pretty good how the diplomacy was handled and how was the 'velvet divorce' for the Austria Empire.

The Prussia were happy, the Austrian are not humbled and even with their reduced size, not longer a threat and will not idiocy like going against the ottomans(specially as Croatia is now Independant but protected by Prussia and Austria if Serbia have some mad ideas about it) and having bohemia as member in the north german federation but politcally separated by austria was a big bonus.

Hungary won back his independence and now is a pretty big state in the Danube and with big potential with Bosnia-Herzegovina and warry if those 'romanian principalities' try something agaisnt their transylvannia. etto wan't the Hungary King death at that point or that was a second butterfly(maybe making a pact with the prussia and not commit suicide?)

Austria, even if loss a lot of periferical territore, are still in one piece and keep the personal union with Bohemia, if some sector want union with germany, this is the chance(wanst Willy II a child to that point, an arrange marriage with a hasburg for the future can do wonders) maybe went the prussia want to put one their princes as king of spain.

Russia did won a lot, won some areas with polish, give an 'ally' some territory with romanian and ukranian and killed any possible area to avoid more polish agitation, as cracow is part of NGF and hungary will keep their poles quiet in their military border in the carpatian mountains.

Italy better behave, if they try to bully austria or croatia will face the rage of the prussia and even hungarians.

So far pretty good Timeline, waiting to see how will be the alternate Franco-Prussian War and how Austria join the new germany soon and how the world unfold with those events.
 
Nice POD, anyway should Italy gain some dalmatian/Istrian islands? I find strange that an Austria so broken retains so much of Istria, I don´t want a 100% italian Istria but giving them some islands would reinforce the German-Italian relations in the future.
 
Nice POD, anyway should Italy gain some dalmatian/Istrian islands? I find strange that an Austria so broken retains so much of Istria, I don´t want a 100% italian Istria but giving them some islands would reinforce the German-Italian relations in the future.

Read the TL, the prussian not wanted it, they think Italy is too pro-france for their taste(this is before france send their legation to papal state) so they only got what they get that was Venetia as OTL, plus giving land in Istria would antagonize croatia, a new state who is in prussian-austria orbit.
 
Read the TL, the prussian not wanted it, they think Italy is too pro-france for their taste(this is before france send their legation to papal state) so they only got what they get that was Venetia as OTL, plus giving land in Istria would antagonize croatia, a new state who is in prussian-austria orbit.
Oh sorry, I didn´t see that, then Italy is going to have a lot of claim on german/croatian soil and Germany maybe another hostile neighbour. :(
 
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Read the TL, the prussian not wanted it, they think Italy is too pro-france for their taste(this is before france send their legation to papal state) so they only got what they get that was Venetia as OTL, plus giving land in Istria would antagonize croatia, a new state who is in prussian-austria orbit.

The problem is not Dalmatia or Istria but Trentino, at the time is occupied (as great part of Veneto) by Italians troops, more specifically Garibaldi's volunteers and the plan was to make a diplomatic fait accomplit his annexation.
OTL Bismark, even to stop any serious attempt of annex too much Austrian territory and he sticked to the treaty to the letter, here that treaty has gone in the trash due to the dissolution of the Hasburg Empire and with the prussian diplomatic gain it will much more difficult to say that they need to stick to the previous agreement as frankly the strategic value of that land for Prussia is basically zero (and a retreat in this situation will much harder for Italy to accept), basically the Prussian are saying to the italians please ally yourself with France against us, in a moment when while generally pro-France, expecially in the piedmontese higher up, it's a very fluid situation due to Nappy III diplomatic meddling in the war and the Roman question, for no real reason (expecially if they thing soon they will fight them)
 
very nice timeline, pretty good how the diplomacy was handled and how was the 'velvet divorce' for the Austria Empire.

Thanks :D

However you helped me with some ideas in the pre-TL thread ;)

The Prussia were happy, the Austrian are not humbled and even with their reduced size, not longer a threat and will not idiocy like going against the ottomans(specially as Croatia is now Independant but protected by Prussia and Austria if Serbia have some mad ideas about it) and having bohemia as member in the north german federation but politcally separated by austria was a big bonus.

Yes, the key point of creating Croatia is establishing a neutral country (but under Prussian/Austrian orbit) in the area to keep Serbian and Italian expansionism in content.

Hungary won back his independence and now is a pretty big state in the Danube and with big potential with Bosnia-Herzegovina and warry if those 'romanian principalities' try something agaisnt their transylvannia. etto wan't the Hungary King death at that point or that was a second butterfly(maybe making a pact with the prussia and not commit suicide?)

Yes, too big and this is going to create juicy storylines :D

Austria, even if loss a lot of periferical territore, are still in one piece and keep the personal union with Bohemia, if some sector want union with germany, this is the chance(wanst Willy II a child to that point, an arrange marriage with a hasburg for the future can do wonders) maybe went the prussia want to put one their princes as king of spain.

Well, this is an alternative 'Ausgleich' which also allows alliance with Prussia, so no need to evict Austria from the Empire as IOTL.

Russia did won a lot, won some areas with polish, give an 'ally' some territory with romanian and ukranian and killed any possible area to avoid more polish agitation, as cracow is part of NGF and hungary will keep their poles quiet in their military border in the carpatian mountains.

The point of the partition of Galicia is clearly to water down any Polish nationalist expectative, for the sake of all their neighbors.

Italy better behave, if they try to bully austria or croatia will face the rage of the prussia and even hungarians.

Well, at this point is unavoidable that Prussia and Italy would follow confronted sides, as their interests are no longer common.

So far pretty good Timeline, waiting to see how will be the alternate Franco-Prussian War and how Austria join the new germany soon and how the world unfold with those events.

Well, before that, there are some things that going to happen, especially in too big Hungary :D

Interesting that any potential independent Poland doesn´t own Cracow.

Mmm, by the moment there is any independent Poland in the horizon. But we'll see.

Looks like we are operating in the same sort of vein; I like it so far. I'll be reading!

Thanks. I love your TL too :)

Nice POD, anyway should Italy gain some dalmatian/Istrian islands? I find strange that an Austria so broken retains so much of Istria, I don´t want a 100% italian Istria but giving them some islands would reinforce the German-Italian relations in the future.

As Nivek states below, Prussia prefers to do not harm German Austria and, stating that Italy will probably side with France in the future, they opt for backing the Austrian interests in the area.

Read the TL, the prussian not wanted it, they think Italy is too pro-france for their taste(this is before france send their legation to papal state) so they only got what they get that was Venetia as OTL, plus giving land in Istria would antagonize croatia, a new state who is in prussian-austria orbit.

I think Venetia is such a good prize alone.

Oh sorry, I didn´t see that, then Italy is going to have a lot of claim on german/croatian soil and Germany maybe another hostile neighbour. :(

Well, it's unavoidable to have some hostile neighbors. But at this point, Prussia would prioritize to keep the interests of the other German states (as they foresee the final unification) and keep good relations with other big powers like Russia and the Ottomans (at least, it guarantees that, given a conflict, they could focus only in a western front, and never two sandwiching them).

The problem is not Dalmatia or Istria but Trentino, at the time is occupied (as great part of Veneto) by Italians troops, more specifically Garibaldi's volunteers and the plan was to make a diplomatic fait accomplit his annexation.

Yes, but Italy lacks of the necessary power to enforce this (IOTL could not) and, considering that getting Venetia is a very good war reward, trying to upset Prussia and the other German states just because of the Trentino area would have been a bit stupid. An eventual Prussian-Austrian retaliation could have caused the reversion of Venetia indeed.

]OTL Bismark, even to stop any serious attempt of annex too much Austrian territory and he sticked to the treaty to the letter, here that treaty has gone in the trash due to the dissolution of the Hasburg Empire and with the prussian diplomatic gain it will much more difficult to say that they need to stick to the previous agreement as frankly the strategic value of that land for Prussia is basically zero (and a retreat in this situation will much harder for Italy to accept), basically the Prussian are saying to the italians please ally yourself with France against us, in a moment when while generally pro-France, expecially in the piedmontese higher up, it's a very fluid situation due to Nappy III diplomatic meddling in the war and the Roman question, for no real reason (expecially if they thing soon they will fight them)

Yes, but mind that this land was part of the County of Tyrol, which is an historical German state (HRE and so), and Prussia wanted to be seen as a protector of the interests of all the historical German states. This is not giving up a non-German territory (Trentino, even if mostly Italian-speaking, was considered core territory of a German state) like Venetia or Dalmatia.

And Prussia thought that Italy would finally ally with the French Empire (despite the Roman dispute) because of their many common interests, so if Prussia just started to envision the conflict with France, they would not bother much if a minor power like Italy was then could ally with France (as long as other major powers like the UK, Ottomans or Russia stay away).
 
German enclaves in Hungary

The Transylvanian Saxons have their autonomous area but not the Swabians in Banat, is this intentional or you forgot to add them?
 
Thanks :D

Yes, too big and this is going to create juicy storylines :D


Well, before that, there are some things that going to happen, especially in too big Hungary :D

I'm Pro Hungary, so no antagonize with the Magyar, the hard fought their independance to loss ancestral land to some come from nowhere Romanian or Ukranian, so let's wait and see how thing unfold, hungary would have a very good army to keep russian, romanina and serbian in check
 
The Transylvanian Saxons have their autonomous area but not the Swabians in Banat, is this intentional or you forgot to add them?

Completely intentional, you will see :D

I'm Pro Hungary, so no antagonize with the Magyar, the hard fought their independance to loss ancestral land to some come from nowhere Romanian or Ukranian, so let's wait and see how thing unfold, hungary would have a very good army to keep russian, romanina and serbian in check

Of course they will fight, but it's easy to foresee that a brand new kingdom, with a lot of territories populated by non-Magyar communities in this scenario, is not going to be very stable at the beginning.

"I'm an Austrian trapped inside a German body."

Good TL.

Thanks ;)
 
One niggle, for the moment:

Prussian Kaiser Wilhelm accepts the offer;

Wilhelm was only King (Konig) of Prussia in 1867, as well as nominal head of the North German Confederation. There was no Emperor (Kaiser) yet, save of course for Franz Josef himself - the Kaiser of Austria, to be precise.
 
One niggle, for the moment:



Wilhelm was only King (Konig) of Prussia in 1867, as well as nominal head of the North German Confederation. There was no Emperor (Kaiser) yet, save of course for Franz Josef himself - the Kaiser of Austria, to be precise.

Oh, you are so right, I have corrected the article :)
 
I have a question.

Does this man that William I would be Emperor of Germany, not merely German Emperor? I know it's merely a matter of name, this this was very important in OTL. William preferred to be Emperor of Germany, but had to be contented with German Emperor. And would this be the Empire of Germany, not German Empire?

And would his son be Frederick IV of Germany rather than Frederick III?
 
I have a question.

Does this man that William I would be Emperor of Germany, not merely German Emperor? I know it's merely a matter of name, this this was very important in OTL. William preferred to be Emperor of Germany, but had to be contented with German Emperor. And would this be the Empire of Germany, not German Empire?

And would his son be Frederick IV of Germany rather than Frederick III?

If I'm not wrong, I think the difference IOTL is that 'Emperor of Germany' would have implied 'Germany' in a Grossdeutschland sense (like it was at the HRE times) and Austria could have protested against this title, isn't it? 'German Emperor' just noticed an Emperor who is German, but does not imply all Germany, only some part.

So, would it be justified that a Greater German Empire could be officially called Empire of Germany? Would it be that important?
 
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