East Prussian SSR

Stalin has decided that he will retain the entity known as East Prussia as a separate entity. He has decided that Poland will note get any of the land and in fact he will give this new Soviet Socialist Republic Danzig. New better discipiline Red Army troops are ordered to garrison the new country. True Stalin is aware that the land is practicily empty of people but he already has Germans that he can move in th repopulate it. He has nearly 1.4 Million ethnic Germans that he wants out of the USSR. They will never again be a threat to the Motherland and yet they are mostly indoctrinated Communist that will do what they are told. As for other Germans the Red Army and the Communist Control Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria and the Ethnic Germans from those countries could be sent there. A report on his desk from the NKVD tells himm that Romania could send as many as 700,000.
Tito seems unwilling to follow orders so he can count on nothing from that Independently minded Communist leader. Still it may be enough. Besides the new estate will be surrounded by communist controlled countries. Unlike the new East German Democratic Peoples Republic he has little fears that western ideas will effect his creation.
He may even allow some of the Brainwashed German Officers taken in Stalingrad to train the new East Prussian Army under the watchful eyes of the Red Army.
 
Stalin has decided that he will retain the entity known as East Prussia as a separate entity. He has decided that Poland will note get any of the land and in fact he will give this new Soviet Socialist Republic Danzig. New better discipiline Red Army troops are ordered to garrison the new country. True Stalin is aware that the land is practicily empty of people but he already has Germans that he can move in th repopulate it. He has nearly 1.4 Million ethnic Germans that he wants out of the USSR. They will never again be a threat to the Motherland and yet they are mostly indoctrinated Communist that will do what they are told. As for other Germans the Red Army and the Communist Control Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria and the Ethnic Germans from those countries could be sent there. A report on his desk from the NKVD tells himm that Romania could send as many as 700,000.
Tito seems unwilling to follow orders so he can count on nothing from that Independently minded Communist leader. Still it may be enough. Besides the new estate will be surrounded by communist controlled countries. Unlike the new East German Democratic Peoples Republic he has little fears that western ideas will effect his creation.
He may even allow some of the Brainwashed German Officers taken in Stalingrad to train the new East Prussian Army under the watchful eyes of the Red Army.

Why would he care about Germans from out side USSR ?
Why would Stalin want to build a German east Prussia ?
I think that more in tone with Historical Stalin will,be a Stalin that moves in east Prussia,beside Germans,some Ukrainas Belarusian some Poles ect,creating an entiry where now one has a majority,and where he can use one against the othere.
 
Why would he care about Germans from out side USSR ?
Why would Stalin want to build a German east Prussia ?
I think that more in tone with Historical Stalin will,be a Stalin that moves in east Prussia,beside Germans,some Ukrainas Belarusian some Poles ect,creating an entiry where now one has a majority,and where he can use one against the othere.

Maybe he could put up a pretense of remaking a Teutonic city into a true international socialist paradise, though I really can't think of anything that he wouldn't justify just dumping them into Siberia.
 
Maybe he could put up a pretense of remaking a Teutonic city into a true international socialist paradise, though I really can't think of anything that he wouldn't justify just dumping them into Siberia.

He's got East Germany to build as many Teutonic Socialist paradise as he likes.
Is not like Stalin will say one day : Hey you know what ? I will show those idoit minnions form East Germany how a Teutonic Socialist State should be (is bulilded).
Stalin deciding that he will keep all of East Prussia,i can see that.A Stalin that decides the he will not compensate Poland at all ? Yes.
A Stalin that decides to rebuild East Prussia as a German SSR ? I just can,i mean what is the point ? I think the idea as much chances of East Prussia been put together with East Germany.As for the Volga Germans,why not just dump them to East Germany.
I believe tow stages will be requested for East Prussia SSR,first one where Stalin decides to keep it as an SSR,and a second one when some after Stalin decides to move the Volga Germans there (or part of them)
 
Stalin demanded reports from his agents in the new East Prussian Socialist Republic. Trans had brought the ethnic Germans from the USSR to their new home in East Prussia. He had also watched as the ethnic Germans from Romania, Bulgaria and to a lesser degree Hungary were also sent to the new Communist state. Stalin did not want the Germans to go to the new German Federal Republic that was being formed out of the Western Occupation Zones.
Stalin did not trust the Communist Regime in Poland. The Poles were too likely to cause problems. Now with Bases in East Prussia the Red Amy could march quickly on Warsaw.
Stalin was annoyed that the western powers had now organized an alliance NATO that was aimed clearly at the USSR>

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The East Prussian People's Army had begun to organize on a larger scale. They had received Soviet military equipment. Most of it was World War II era stuff.The East Prussian Border Guards patrolled the border with Poland.Below a Border Patrol

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The East Prussian Communist state followed Moscow's lead. Stalin was not at all happy with the fact that the West had stood up to him and broken the Berlin Blockade.
Things continued to go badly for the spread of Communism when the Czechoslovakian President had prevented a take over by the Communist of his country. He had shown courage and the army had responded to his call. The attempted coup had shaken things up.

But in East Prussia things were totally calm. The ethnic Germans from Russia and Eastern Europe all had homes and jobs. Those from Russia seemed even more likely to follow directions.

The result was Stalin rewarded his puppets with newer weapons and allowed them to produce Soviet weapons for itself and other eastern block countries.
East Prussian troops watching the Lithuanian border

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The East Prussian legislature in 1950 met and approved a renaming of the Country as the Prussian Peoples Social Democrat Republic. A delegation from the country went to Moscow to Celebrate the Liberation of Prussia from Fascist Forces. they also wanted to attend the May Day Celebration and latter to Victory over Fascism and Nazi's in Europe.
The Prussian People's army had now increased in size to 2 tank battalions, 2 Motorized Rifle Battalions, 2 Rifle Battalions, 1 Artillery Battalion and 1 Air defense Battalion. Its Navy now consisted of 4 Soviet built PT boats.
The Prussian People's Air Force consisted now of some propeller driven WWII type aircraft.
 
He's got East Germany to build as many Teutonic Socialist paradise as he likes.
Is not like Stalin will say one day : Hey you know what ? I will show those idoit minnions form East Germany how a Teutonic Socialist State should be (is bulilded).
Stalin deciding that he will keep all of East Prussia,i can see that.A Stalin that decides the he will not compensate Poland at all ? Yes.
A Stalin that decides to rebuild East Prussia as a German SSR ? I just can,i mean what is the point ? I think the idea as much chances of East Prussia been put together with East Germany.As for the Volga Germans,why not just dump them to East Germany.
I believe tow stages will be requested for East Prussia SSR,first one where Stalin decides to keep it as an SSR,and a second one when some after Stalin decides to move the Volga Germans there (or part of them)

Makes sense, though again, I can't see why Stalin would change his mind about Germans after all that happened. There's no reason for him to put ethnic Germans 'back' into German lands if he could shove them in Siberia where he believes they would not cause trouble (i.e. paranoia over German revanchism 2.0).

Under a different leader like Khrushchev might change things. He's crazy enough to make an example out of Kaliningrad, though by then, it would already be a Russophone area. We actually had a discussion thread on this some time ago. Trying to find the link.
 
The Post World War II had seen the emergence of two blocks: The Western Block that was dominated by NATO and The Eastern Block which would eventually become the Warsaw Pact Dominated by the USSR.The Communist controlled East Germany, Poland Prussia, Romania, Bulgaria , Hungary and Albania. Tito's Yugoslavia while Communist maintained a position independent of Moscow.
The Soviets had suffered some major set backs- Berlin Blockade ( forced to be lifted by the Western Powers standing firm and the failure of the Communist coup in Czechoslovakia . On the other hand Stalin had forced the West to agree to a neutral Austria in return for withdrawing Soviet forces from the occupation Zone.
In the Far East things had ended in a stalemate in China when President Truman had followed different advise and gone all out to support the Nationalist. The end result had been two China. Neither of them in good shape.
Stalin had not liked Mao and had not been unhappy that Chaing Kai Shek had held onto power. The there had been the Korean Incident. The stupid North Korean Leader had convinved him agaisnt his better judgement to allow an invasion of the South. It had resulted in a crushing of the North Korean Army and only the Peoples Republic of China sending in several Hundred thousand volunteers had saved him. He had to send in Prussian , East German and Russian volunteers flying the new Russian Jet fighters to save Kim. . It had cost the USSR a lot of weapons given to the PRC.
No sooner did it end than Stalin suffered a fatal illness and passed away .
The Result was the start of a lot of troubles in Eastern Europe. There were demonstrations in East Germany and Poland. But the Prussian Communist state proved loyal to the USSR.
Below a Prussian Officer congratulating one of his men for service in East Germany

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The Death of Stalin caused the new Soviet leadership to look at the Prussian Democratic Socialist Republic in a new light When there were demonstrations and violence against the Soviets in East Germany and Poland the Prussian Government and people remained loyal. Perhaps it was because so many of its citizens had come from countries with Tight Government Control (USSR and Romania under the Iron Guard.).
 
General Secretary Heinrich Seydlitz of the Prussian Communist Party continued to shown support fro Russia as the country entered its 8th year of Existance. The Prussians sent a unit to East germany during the anti-Soviet Union demonstrations and provided bases for Soviet forces to use when applying pressure to Poland. Thus the Prussian State created by Stalin proved its usefulness.
Fredrich Paulus was the Chancellor of Prussia. He had been born in Romania but had been brought up as a German. He had the ability to speak Romanian, German, Russian, Polish and a little English. He had served two years in the Peoples army and then had been elected to the Parliament. He was easy going and rose quickly becoming Chancellor in November of 1955.
1956 saw a reform movement in Hungary that gain support in the younger member of the Party. They wanted to make the party more democratic and more responsive to Hungarian needs rather than Moscow.
For a period of time after some conflict between the Red Army and the forces of Liberation Hungary appeared on the verge of Independence.
However the new General Secretary of the Communist Party in Moscow Nikita K. had decided that Moscow could not afford to allow Hungary to break away. The Hungarians had the support of Yugoslavia but Moscow had the Support of Romania and East Germany. The Poles were cool to intervention and refused to send troops. Moscow called upon Prussia to join the struggle and it sent two battalions.
 
Uh oh... no coup in Czechoslovakia means: They may refuse to cede Carpathian Ruthenia, though that may be forced anyway, and that the Warsaw Pact has a smaller border with Hungary. Though, if Suez still happens, Hungary is still getting invaded. Though, if Czechoslovakia helps Britain and France, and since West Germany is larger with Saxony, and East Germany is absolutely weak, the British may just be successful... and as long as Israel doesn't get Sinai for any longer than 5 years, I would totally be cool with a slower withdraw from The Dark Continent, as long as there is no genocide... or major ethnic cleansing...:(
 

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I'm curious about the Geography in regards to the map.

First: How did the Prussian Socialist Soviet Republic get Danzig/Gdańsk?
Second: so Poland doesn't get the southern half? Okay, just seems a little weird, that's all.

Also, Volga Germans. Just leaving that here.

I like the idea, I really do, and this is one of the more interesting Alternate Histories I've seen. Good luck developing it :)
 
The USSR was now preparing to marshal its forces to put down the uprising in Hungary. There were a number of problems Yugoslavia sympathize with the Hungarians and the same was true with Austria.
Relations between the USSR and Czechoslovakia had been cold since the end of the Second Wold War. It had gotten worse since the attempted Communist Coup. The Result was that the country had joined NATO. This made the USSR's attempting to crush the freedom movement in Hungary very dangerous.
Meanwhile there appeared to be problems about to crop up. Great Britain and France were about to invade Egypt using the excuse that Israel was threatening the canal. The French had had it with Egypt supplying arms to the insurgents in Algeria,
 
Ok, so the West pushed the issue with the Berlin blockade and won (so basically OTL there really...) I guess aside from an airlift?

Because how did the GDR lose all that land in the West? A land invasion (as opposed to flying along the internationally recognized air corridors between West Berlin and the FRG) would likely have lead to World War Three.

Or the breakup of the entire Warsaw Pact and the collapse of the USSR into infamy for being unwilling to back up its puppe... er I mean allies when they are invaded
 
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