AHC: Right wing terror groups in the US

ThePest179

Banned
The goal here is relatively simple: Have domestic right wing terrorism in the United States become a semi-significant force in the wake of Ruby Ridge and the Waco siege. Bonus points if the groups in question are fundamentalist Christians or carry out terror attacks in foreign countries perceived as "anti-American".

EDIT: POD moved to 2008.
 
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zoomar

Well, actually the OKC bombing is probably not what you want if you are a right-wing terrorist group since it clearly discredited the right-wing militia movement for years. I think what the poster might be aiming for is a consistent pattern of many smaller-scale terrorist actions (killings of police, prominent leftists, secularists, non-Christians, gun-control advocates, immigrants, etc). I don't think any "bonus poiints" are necessary if these people are also fundamentalist Christians - the evidence seems to show that's pretty much a given.
 

zoomar

Ultimate Paragon said:
Maybe have some radical left-wing party make a dramatic rise?
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Problem is that's about as unlikely as anything. A rise in radical left-wing terrorism might help do it, a new leftist political party with any chance at the polls? Nope. Besides, for most of these loonies, you don't need a rise of such a party...it's already in power and that commie, moslem, anti-American Obama is its leader. Just have 51-60% of the American electorate keep electing moderate Democrats like him and some rightwingers will decide that most "Americans" have turned on America and a rev-o-lution by the true Americans is needed. Dangerous people.
 

Torqumada

Ultimate Paragon said:
Maybe have some radical left-wing party make a dramatic rise?
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Not necessary. Bill Clinton being elected was enough to cause many to join militias and advocate armed rebellion. Timothy McVeigh not being caught right after Oklahoma city might also give a boost to right wing terrorism. The speed at which he was caught probably put off many would be terrorist, thinking the the government was nearly omnipotent.

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ThePest179

Banned
Ultimate Paragon said:
Maybe have some radical left-wing party make a dramatic rise?
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No. I'm looking for radical right, not left.

zoomar said:
Yup. More people like Rudolph and his ilk (perhaps linked in a loose organization) is what I had in mind
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So how exactly do we get more of them, and turn them into a somewhat serious force? I was thinking the group could stagnate during the Bush years, then explode (metaphorically as well as literally :p) during Obama's presidency.
 

Lycaon pictus

Donor
If (personally in the wake of some massacre or other) anybody actually managed to pass gun registration, that would probably do it.
 
Emperor Norton I

Emperor Norton I

The Klan as white robes and cross burnings was discredited, but the spirit lived on in other groups. It just tended to adopt camo pants and maybe obfuscate the racism of the ideology.
 

ThePest179

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Emperor Norton I said:
The Klan as white robes and cross burnings was discredited, but the spirit lived on in other groups. It just tended to adopt camo pants and maybe obfuscate the racism of the ideology.
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Yeah, but then we need to get it moving as a semi coherent terror network. This is the problem: getting it to work. Once we take care of the how (we already have the when and the why) then we might have a TL here.
 

The Uchronian

ThePest179 said:
The goal here is relatively simple: Have domestic right wing terrorism in the United States become a semi-significant force in the wake of Ruby Ridge and the Waco siege. Bonus points if the groups in question are fundamentalist Christians or carry out terror attacks in foreign countries perceived as "anti-American".
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You might be able to pull this off with something like the trend for the recognition of gay marriage starting earlier, in say, 1992(instead of 2004 as in OTL), which, to be honest, isn't all that hard to do with a fairly recent POD. And given that the Religious Right still had a lot of credibility at this point, and that this was about the time that the "Imminent Rapture" fad had peaked.....well, let's just say that it could touch off a trend that could spark off after Ruby Ridge, especially if some asshole decides to say, oh, I dunno, take hostages at a gay bar in New York or S.F. or something. Some of the more extreme right-wingers out there might take it as just one more sign that the government is about to introduce a Communist/Marxist/Satanist/what-have-you in the near future; and such could potentially lead to a wave of terrorism that'd make the Klan's efforts in the Sixties look like a cakewalk in comparison! :(
 

Emperor Julian

Torqumada said:
Not necessary. Bill Clinton being elected was enough to cause many to join militias and advocate armed rebellion. Timothy McVeigh not being caught right after Oklahoma city might also give a boost to right wing terrorism. The speed at which he was caught probably put off many would be terrorist, thinking the the government was nearly omnipotent.

Torqumada
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The problem is that eventually, they will be crushed, just like how the US government crushed the left-wing militant groups decades before. They've proven generally more lenient for right-wingers, but eventually the right-wing groups would cross the line and get destroyed.
 
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