Timelines Page

[Jasen777]

I think it needs some organization. Perhaps alphabetizing?

[Thande]

I think it needs some organization. Perhaps alphabetizing?

As my TL is now just off the bottom of the front page, I agree wholeheartedly with this ;)

Maybe we should make each 'era' section into a separate page and just have the links to the era pages on the main page?

[LordInsane]

As my TL is now just off the bottom of the front page, I agree wholeheartedly with this ;)

Maybe we should make each 'era' section into a separate page and just have the links to the era pages on the main page?
That could work.
But what about the Old Board, ASB and Grey Wolf TLs?
Would they be gathered together under an 'other' page, as they would be too few to make up seperate pages?

That reminds me, I need to add A Scholar's History to that part...

[Jasen777]

ASB can have an ASB page. The Old Board and Grey Wolf timelines are all red links, if no one is going to step up and do something with those perhaps the should be deleted. Perhaps along with some of the other red links. I understand having dead links in wiki's but we might want to consider removing them if they've been there for a long time and no one has done anything with them.

[Jasen777]

And why does Grey Wolf have his own section anyways?

[Jasen777]

Made the changes. What do you think? The main timeline page and the period pages could probably use intros.

[LordInsane]

Made the changes. What do you think? The main timeline page and the period pages could probably use intros.
Oh, I like!

[Thande]

Nice work.

Something I find strange (that was there before, nothing Jasen's done) is that everything has 'TL' after it. Why? We don't normally say 'the X TL', do we?

[Jasen777]

That's a good point, they're unnecessary. Perhaps the idea originally was that scenarios (whatever they are) and stories would be listed also.

[Thande]

In a similar vein, I think we should split up the article on the Series, it's getting too long. Have separate ones for Cast, List of Episodes, etc.

[fortyseven]

Good suggestion Thande. Good work Jasen

[Susano]

Good work, jasen, and chronological ordeirng is certainly a good idea.

However, I do find the chronological ordering a bit.. odd. The classical setup of eras I know is Ancient Times (-~500), Middle Ages (~500-~1500) and Modern Age (~500-now), with the latter divisible into Early Modern Age (-1789) and, err, Modern Times.

Of course, the chronology is divided into four atm, so, yeah, Id aforementioned renamings...

[Jasen777]

I'm not sure what you meant by your last sentence.

The only major difference from the method you mentioned is the division of the modern era at 1900 instead of 1789. 1900 presumably refers to the forum division of pre and post 1900, and as post 1900 is the largest of the categories on the wiki, I don't think it would be a goof idea to make it larger.

[Susano]

I'm not sure what you meant by your last sentence.

The only major difference from the method you mentioned is the division of the modern era at 1900 instead of 1789. 1900 presumably refers to the forum division of pre and post 1900, and as post 1900 is the largest of the categories on the wiki, I don't think it would be a goof idea to make it larger.

Well, as said, the names would be a difference. "Age of Exploration and Impeiralism" sounds like a patchwork name, and "Middle Ages/DarkAges" seems a bit redudnant. And post.-1900 is? How depressing, but thats a good argument then...

[Jasen777]

I kind of like the names, but they can be changed if someone comes up with better ones.

[Grey Wolf]

LOL, I've never checked the Wiki... I have a couple hours spare today and decide to read these threads and discover that I had a section all of my own for my timelines ? Only, that I don't anymore ? Feels weird, like someone promised me candy and then said nah nah you can't have some

btw the main reason I don't look at the Wiki is because whoever runs these things has banned the Powys Libraries URLs which seems completely stupid to me, but there's no way to complain because the complaints and contact page tells me the URL is banned too !

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[Grey Wolf]

Oo, OK...

Trust me to speak before checking things !

I can log in with the AH.com user/pass but haven't a fluffy clue what to do now that I have !

And I see that the above-mentioned section of timelines under my name is still there, albeit with only titles - I expect I am supposed to fill those in now ? I can't for the life of me see how I can condense timelines I did years ago into a Wiki format though ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[fortyseven]

And I see that the above-mentioned section of timelines under my name is still there, albeit with only titles - I expect I am supposed to fill those in now ? I can't for the life of me see how I can condense timelines I did years ago into a Wiki format though ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

You can ask those that have read them and are good at summarizing to write something up in the wiki for you.

[Susano]

I kind of like the names, but they can be changed if someone comes up with better ones.

The problem being that they are, well, not the academic terms...
Of course, we can also avoid any naming discussions (and any confusion while were at it, too!) by naming the section for their timespans. That is instead of "Time of Exploration and Imperialism" it will simply be named 1500-1900.

[Jasen777]

I have a couple hours spare today and decide to read these threads and discover that I had a section all of my own for my timelines ? Only, that I don't anymore ? Feels weird, like someone promised me candy and then said nah nah you can't have some

I'm planning to move your timelines to the appropriate age period pages. No offense, but I don't see why you need your own timeline page. I'll make a "works of" page for you.

As for putting in information, you can probably figure out something do to by looking at some examples, such as Hitler's Mediterranean Strategy (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/timelines/hitler_s_mediterranean_strategy). A link to the thread and a summary paragraph would be nice.

[Jasen777]

The problem being that they are, well, not the academic terms...
Of course, we can also avoid any naming discussions (and any confusion while were at it, too!) by naming the section for their timespans. That is instead of "Time of Exploration and Imperialism" it will simply be named 1500-1900.

Does anyone else think it should be changed?

[Thande]

I like the titles. Even if they're not entirely accurate descriptions, any titles at all are a lot more attractive than bland "1500-1900" or whatever.

[Thande]

Oh, and kudos to Jasen for quickly reversing the trolling edits.

[Jasen777]

I noticed you restored the Australia one also, I didn't think that was bad since all he did was add he original name to the list. But probably better to just get rid of all troll tracks.

[Max Sinister]

A suggestion: We could also make several pages for TLs - one ordered alphabetically, one ordered chronologically.

[Sargon]

I'm planning to move your timelines to the appropriate age period pages. No offense, but I don't see why you need your own timeline page. I'll make a "works of" page for you.


Grey Wolf is the LEGENDARY member of AH.com, that's why that section is there. ;) Actually, that section was originally meant to have all of his TLs there of which there are a lot - another reason why he has his own section, and because people had ASKED for somewhere where they could find all his TLs in ONE place.


Sargon

[Jasen777]

That can be done here: Complete Works of Grey Wolf (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/offtopic/complete_works_of_grey_wolf). Feel free to edit it.

Note I keep his timeline page for now, because I don't know the POD dates to add them to the lists. Anyone?

[Sargon]

That can be done here: Complete Works of Grey Wolf (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/offtopic/complete_works_of_grey_wolf). Feel free to edit it.

Note I keep his timeline page for now, because I don't know the POD dates to add them to the lists. Anyone?

Ah, he'll be well pleased with that, and it'll satisfy everyone else too.

Hmmm, I used to know some of them, but it's been so long since I've read some of those stories.

When he turns up online again, I'm sure he'll let you know if he can remember. I know that he has quite a few readers so maybe one of them will drop by and help out.


Sargon

[fortyseven]

I like the titles. Even if they're not entirely accurate descriptions, any titles at all are a lot more attractive than bland "1500-1900" or whatever.

Me too

[Grey Wolf]

That can be done here: Complete Works of Grey Wolf (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/offtopic/complete_works_of_grey_wolf). Feel free to edit it.

Note I keep his timeline page for now, because I don't know the POD dates to add them to the lists. Anyone?

OK, I'll try and help out here but my memory ain't what it used to be !

Regarding 'A Feast of Eagles' it is both a timeline and a novel, in fact it is more of a novel than a timeline though I did do a detailed timeline to support it...

One could perhaps say the reverse to 'Tsar Michael' - the detailed timeline came first, then I wrote 4 or 5 chapters of the story...then went on holiday and couldn't pick it back up when I returned

Can I do a section for Incomplete Stories ? 'To Soar Like Icarus' was something I really rather liked, but it is in no way finished... Then again, how much is it AH and how much SF ?

Hmmm...sure I've written other stuff, but can't think right now...

POD dates... AFOE was a POD of no Crimean War, I remember that. TMTG was a POD of Nicholas II dying when he got real ill at Livadia at the turn of the century. The Sport of Kings POD was around the death of Henry V, though I would have to reread it to remember exactly what...

There was also Shared Earth stuff - I contributed a lot to DME, and also to whichever empire-based one we did last year...and I provided a full timeline (San Martin Kingdom of Peru) for the latter pre-ISOT, so its a timeline in its own right...somewhere, the POD of which would be in the, er, 1820s I think ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[Thande]

Thanks for going through and adding the stubs and links, Jasen.

[Jasen777]

Authors shouldn't feel it's wrong to expand the page for their own timelines.

[Jasen777]

OK, I'll try and help out here but my memory ain't what it used to be !

Thanks, that helps.

[Jasen777]

I'm assuming derived works, such as "non-Federation Star Trek TL" can be listed under ASB?

(mostly a bump so that I don't have to see the spam thread on the main page)

[Thande]

I'm assuming derived works, such as "non-Federation Star Trek TL" can be listed under ASB?

(mostly a bump so that I don't have to see the spam thread on the main page)

That is the usual convention, yes.

[Jasen777]

Would anyone happen to have links to these Old Board (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/timelines/old_board) TLs? Or know anything about them?

[Thande]

Unfortunately the Old Board link has been down for a while. If you check the Wiki page on the Old Board, though, there's a list of prominent 'Old Boardies' who might be able to help.

[Jasen777]

You can get to the old board, there's something about that in the help forum, but I don't think the search is working.

[MrP]

Ooh, cheers for adding PlC, Jasen. :)

[Grey Wolf]

Would anyone happen to have links to these Old Board (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/timelines/old_board) TLs? Or know anything about them?

Fire Eagle, Snow Bear was good - some sort of 1920s fascist Russia I think, been a looooooooooooong time now since I read it

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[Imago]

Just a question ... is it possible to put a whole timeline, complete with images and stuff on the wiki? Because all timelines online there are just links to certain threads on the board and I want my TL somewhere where I can edit it as long as I want ...

[Max Sinister]

Then you may want to consider the althist wiki at wikia.com (in German too), or you work on your TL until it's finished and post it then. Shouldn't be that much of a problem, most people retcon their TLs sometimes, and nowadays you can edit your posts for quite some time.

[Imago]

Mmmh that wiki does not include future history, the editing time has just run out and I work on my TL decade to decade...don`t think this fits.
Then I think I will have to link it to some outside location and post at least the timeline itself somewhere unrelated to the board. But thanks.

[Jasen777]

Just a question ... is it possible to put a whole timeline, complete with images and stuff on the wiki?

It is. For instance, DAv (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/timelines/british_imperialism_of_the_19th_century) is working on that for his timeline.

[Imago]

Ok, then I will join him. Thank you. ^^

[Thande]

Imago, your page names are too generic (same problem as DAv had). You need to put some reference to your timeline in, like "timelines:sm_maps" or something rather than just "timelines:maps".

[Imago]

Ok, will do. :)

Edit: Done, Better now?
Is there a possibility to link images (displayed in the wiki) in from external sources?

[Thande]

Ok, will do. :)

Edit: Done, Better now?
Is there a possibility to link images (displayed in the wiki) in from external sources?

Yes, that's better, good work.

Clarify what you mean for the second part. Do you mean you want to know how to put images in the wiki, or link elsewhere to images already on the wiki?

[Imago]

To put images from photobucket directly into the wiki (so you can see them there) without uploading them a second time.

[Thande]

To put images from photobucket directly into the wiki (so you can see them there) without uploading them a second time.

I don't think that's possible, but if you've already uploaded them onto the wiki, you can have them appear in multiple pages.