Colony Game: South America

[Communist Wizard]

Here are the rules:
1.)You start with one colony, in South America, or North America. North America has been posted , and will be run by demonkangaroo. You MAY have a colony in S. A., and on in N.A.
2.)Let's be realistic here. You cannot have 5,000 settlers, at least to begin with. Start with a small population, and let it grow. Also, no god-modding. Any god-modding will have your territory be annexed by anyone who wants it. :p
3.)No wars, at least early on.
4.) All political acts will be in bold letters
5.) Please, let's keep the maps PNG.
6.)Oh, and standard gaming rules apply, such as be civil in and out of the game, blah, blah, blah.
Have fun. Oh, and use this template for when you claim an area.
This is my claim.
Edit- Downsized claim
Name: Neu Deutschland
Year Founded: 1610
Population: 750
Country, or Business who founded it: Kingdom of Germany
Location: Macairibo area (Venezuela)
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 67% White European (European, German Majority Majority), 21% Amerindian/Mixed, 12% Black African
And use this map:
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[Dan1988]

All right - I'll think about it.

[Odin]

um unless this is some kind of ATL, in europe there is no Germany Kingdom in the 16th Century. Also you spelt Deutschland Incorrectly.

[Communist Wizard]

um unless this is some kind of ATL, in europe there is no Germany Kingdom in the 16th Century. Also you spelt Deutschland Incorrectly.
Exactly! This is an AH game, no?

[Odin]

meh fair enough

[Rocano]

Name: St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia( Trinidad and Tobago)

Founded: 1630

By: Irish Homeland Society, 500 Settlers sent to find New Homeland

[Agentdark]

Moved to Collaborative projects

[Sgt Detritus]

Name: Nieuw Holland
Year Founded: 1600
Population: 800
Country, or Business who founded it: United Provinces
Location: OTL Island of Puerto Rico
Ethnicity of the Colonists: The European settlers are 90% Dutch. The other 10% are a mix of other northern nationalities (English, Danes, Norwegians etc.)

BTW someone in the North American thread has claimed part of the west coast of Hispaniola, so as that island appears on both maps you should alter the map accordingly

[Rocano]

The Settlers have been built the Town of New Cork on the Island of St.Patrick (OTL Trinidad).

[Codae]

Name: Rio dos Camarãos
Year Founded: 1554
Population: 240
Country, or Business who founded it: Portugal
Location: NE part of OTL Brazil
Ethnicity of the Colonists: Almost entirely Portuguese; a few French mercenaries

At this point, Rio dos Camarãos consists of a few forts built to safeguard Portuguese watering stations.

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Moskva
Year Founded: 1540
Population: 450
From: Russian Exiles
Location: Southern Brazil, Uruguay.
Ethnicity: Exclusively Russian for now. Natives hang out somewhere else.
This colony is a corollary to Novaya Russia in the North America thread. After bountiful fishing seasons, the colony sent people to get a new food source. These guys ship food up North.

[m2thet5678]

Hate to double post, but I was just showing the flag for the Novaya Colonies:

[Sgt Detritus]

I'd like to make a couple of requests:

1. Could someone colour in the OTL Puerto Rico for my colony of Nieuw Holland.

2. Could the joint organisers of the this and the North America thread make some kind of official statement as to what the year is in-game. There seems to be an assumption in the North America thread that it is sometime in the 1500s which would mean that I'd have to retcon certain aspects of Nieuw Holland

[Sgt Detritus]

Little bit of retconning for Nieuw Holland

Name: Nieuw Holland
Year Founded: 1538
Population: 800
Country, or Business who founded it: Dutch refugees/exiles
Location: OTL Island of Puerto Rico
Ethnicity of the Colonists: The European settlers are 90% Dutch. The other 10% are a mix of other northern nationalities (English, Danes, Norwegians etc.)

[demonkangaroo]

New Glasgow
Year Founded: 1540
Population: 500
Country, or Company who founded it: The Nova Scotia Trading Company
Location: Tierra del Fuego
Ethnicity: 48% Scottish Gael, 36% African, 16% Other European

I'll post my map later, I'm on a school computer right now.

[Communist Wizard]

Yes, South America will surely be in the background of the New World... All to my advantage. :D
Neu Deutschland settles Aruba and some western areas.
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[m2thet5678]

100 more Colonists and 50 more soldiers arrived in Novaya Moskva.
The population is now at 600 people.

This land is rather strange. Unlike Russia and Novaya Russia, it requires a substantial amount of work to cultivate. So we shall have the Natives do it for us. (No enslavement yet. Also, Natives here are uncivilized, so they can't read).

[demonkangaroo]

New Glasgow
Year Founded: 1540
Population: 500
Country, or Company who founded it: The Nova Scotia Trading Company
Location: Tierra del Fuego
Ethnicity: 48% Scottish Gael, 36% African, 16% Other European

I'll post my map later, I'm on a school computer right now.
Heres the map.

[Rocano]

someone put m on the map. Im Trinidad bright green pleez

[Bishop]

Nam Guo
Year Founded: 1560
Population: 700
Country, or Company who founded it: chinese exiles
Location: North West of South America
Ethnicity: 95% chinese 5% native American

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[Bishop]

Nam Guo is a colony founded by a group of chinese exiles that split off from the original group that went to North America. They have warm ties with Mei Guo and trade frequently with them. Though we are a separate colony and political entity.

[m2thet5678]

Updated map with Rocano's Trinidad Tobago colony.
Also, Novaya Moskva has expanded a bit, but not much. It might not be visible at first:)

[Sgt Detritus]

The colonist of Nieuw Holland, having over the course of twenty years or so gained control of the eponymous island start to expand, taking control of some of the small islands to the east of Nieuw Holland. These new territories are given the collective name of De Oranje Eillanden (Orange Islands)

Nieuw Holland is now claiming what OTL would be the Virgin Island and the Netherland Antilles (not counting the ones right off the north coast of the South American mainland)


BTW could some colour in Nieuw Holland and The Orange Islands for me??

[Mack of Raven]

Here you go.

Land van Doed
Year Founded: 1632
Population: 1498
Country, or Company who founded it: Dutch Buccaneers and Traders
Location: North West of South America
Ethnicity: 55% Dutch 25% other nations 20% native American

[Rocano]

Here you go.

Land van Doed
Year Founded: 1632
Population: 1498
Country, or Company who founded it: Dutch Buccaneers and Traders
Location: North West of South America
Ethnicity: 55% Dutch 25% other nations 20% native American


If you are claiming Puerto Rico it is already claimed

[birdy]

French Huguenot Colony (cant think of name right now).

Location- Upper Coast of OTL Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil's southernmost state.

Founded- 1587

Population- 2000 (OOC, what year is the game on now?)

Founded by- French Protestants as a refuge

Mostly French, some Germans and Dutch Protestants and a number of natives living with settlers.

OOC- cant seem to get the map, could someone colour my colony on the map.

[Codae]

Approximately 50 evacuees from Sao Diogo come to Rio dos Camarãos. They are the area's first actual colonists.

[Communist Wizard]

A better map, no abnormalities in the South.
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[Codae]

OOC: What happened to the Incas? What about the Aztecs?

[randomkeith]

What's God-Moding??????

Does this mean that my chosen people can't worship me as their rightful god-emporer????????

I mean if its good enough for 40K surley its good enough for my chosen people

[m2thet5678]

god-modding is giving yourself too many people. I only have 600 right now!
And some claims are becoming rather large in area. How are you going to subjugate that with around a 1000 guys? (I'm looking at you Doestad)

[Sgt Detritus]

Who's claimed Jamaica??

Just checked the north America thread and the colony of Sao Diogo has moved there

[Sgt Detritus]

OOC: What happened to the Incas? What about the Aztecs?

The only colony that has claimed territory that was OTL part of the Inca Empire is Nam Guo, that little brown bit about 1/4 of the way down the west coast so you'll have to ask them

[Mack of Raven]

If you are claiming Puerto Rico it is already claimed

The land that i claimed is situated in the north of Argentina (greenish color)

[Codae]

Founded- 1587

Population- 2000 (OOC, what year is the game on now?)


OOC: I think it's in the early-to-mid-1560s at the moment.

[Bishop]

The only colony that has claimed territory that was OTL part of the Inca Empire is Nam Guo, that little brown bit about 1/4 of the way down the west coast so you'll have to ask them

OOC: What happened to the Incas? What about the Aztecs?

OOC: By this time, since we're around 1570, the Inca population has pretty much been decimated by disease.

I'm in present-day Ecuador as Nam Guo, my settlements are based around the coast, with the current situation with the Incas, I won't expect much resistance from the Incas. I should be able to move inland eventually, I intend to built settlements and cities based on the locations of OTL present-day cities.

[randomkeith]

Minjar Exiled Samuri colony

Location- Central America around lake Nicaragua

Founded- 1571

Population- 2000 (OOC, what year is the game on now?)

Founded by- Japanese Samuri

Population- Mainly Samuri and Buhdist monks, some natives working as slaves (Etta's) widley regarded as untouchables ( as all non-Japenese are)

Colours are red with green dots

[Bishop]

randomkeith. isn't that area considered North America. It might be a good idea to go to North America map then.

Mainly Samuri and Buhdist monks

Any women and how many buddhists monks.

Population- 2000 (OOC, what year is the game on now?)

Your population is a bit high, we generally start with populations a little under 1000. It goes by 10 years a week.

[randomkeith]

I'll keep it in Central America thank you, if you didnt want people to play on it then dont put it on the map.

As to revised population of 1000 about 200 Samuri, 300 workers, 400 women and 100 monks.

[birdy]

OOC

I'll lower my population to around 450- 500.

Also the name of the settlement is La Rochelle

[Codae]

Since the arrival of the Diogan evacuees, the population of Rio dos Camarãos has grown rapidly. Now (1566), the military and non-military populations are each at about 250. Most of the population lives in or around the town of Forte do Rio dos Camarãos, the unimaginatively named capital at the mouth of the eponymous river.

[Communist Wizard]

Neu Deutschland is now at 2000 (we update 10 years-week. This is the German Kingdom's only major colony...)
Map of it and it's claims*
*We realise we will not fully occupy them for years, many years.
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[m2thet5678]

Novaya Moskva Population is now at 1800 men. We would like to announce a demographics shift that is occurring. This land has very fertile soil, great for sugar and other cash crops, not to mention food for our Northern colony and for other places. So now, we have 450 native slaves, along with our 1350 Russian exiles.

New map. Striped Area is the claims. They are only as large as the gray guys.

[Odin]

Neu Deutschland is now at 2000 (we update 10 years-week. This is the German Kingdom's only major colony...)
Map of it and it's claims*
*We realise we will not fully occupy them for years, many years.


New Prussia wishes to establish good relations with their germanic brothers in the south. And perhaps foster a mutually beneficial agreement.

OOC: Please ignore if you don't want too much interaction in between the two maps. Just thought I'd post this since your colony is germanic.

[Sgt Detritus]

The colonist population of Nieuw Holland now totals 2100. This figure takes into account new arrivals and flucuations due to births and deaths

[birdy]

The Population of La Rochelle has increased to around 850, new arrivals and births being somewhat offset by deaths.

[Mack of Raven]

I Also lowering my population in mine first post tot 739 but in 17de century mijn population rose to 1581 and is colonized more land and cliaming even more

[Bishop]

Our population of Nam Guo has reached a population of 1900. We have decided to stay within our territory until we pacify the savages.

[birdy]

To Doestad

we would like to begin trade and arrange a reasonable border.

La Rochelle now has a population of around 1000.

[Mack of Raven]

To: La Rochelle
Subject: Border treaty

I propose this, i promise that will not go over this borderline.
and i propose a trade-agrement between our states

[birdy]

To: La Rochelle
Subject: Border treaty

I propose this, i promise that will not go over this borderline.
and i propose a trade-agrement between our states


Yes! That is acceptable to us, We look forward to a long and prosperous relationship.

(OOC< i'll have a think about what my people can trade, i think my region has a climate good for wine's and grapes etc.

[Mack of Raven]

here is a good overview map of the bordertreaty.
(OOC in the north the climate is the same as in you country so grapes is not what i looking for, but the French are better winemakers then the Dutch, this is the land of the Potato and the Dutch can make Jenever(Dutch Gin) of it, a other resource is silver ;))

[Mack of Raven]

It is the first version, better ones come later

[Sgt Detritus]

Nieuw Holland expands again and claims the islands between the Virgin Islands and Guadaloupe.

[Mack of Raven]

Like so :confused:

[Sgt Detritus]

Like so :confused:

That's just right, thanks :)

BTW did the original province of Holland have a flag or coat of arms of its own??

[Mack of Raven]

yes but the east indies had the VOC-sign on there flag and the west indies the WIC-sign like this

[Sgt Detritus]

yes but the east indies had the VOC-sign on there flag and the west indies the WIC-sign like this

I could use something like for Nieuw Holland as by the time the next update comes along ie 1590 the United Provinces will have declared independence

[birdy]

here is a good overview map of the bordertreaty.
(OOC in the north the climate is the same as in you country so grapes is not what i looking for, but the French are better winemakers then the Dutch, this is the land of the Potato and the Dutch can make Jenever(Dutch Gin) of it, a other resource is silver ;))


OOC
Ahh, Thanks for the info:cool:

[Rocano]

The Republic of St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia has decided to settle the Coast south of our Islands and some of the Lesser Islands north of Us.

[Sgt Detritus]

The Republic of St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia has decided to settle the Coast south of our Islands and some of the Lesser Islands north of Us.

How far north. Nieuw Holland has no desire for war and suggests we agree some sort of demarcation line. How about this... The Republic of St Patrick can have the OTL island of Dominica and any island between that and your home territory??

[Sgt Detritus]

The Republic of St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia has decided to settle the Coast south of our Islands and some of the Lesser Islands north of Us.

How far north. Nieuw Holland has no desire for war and suggests we agree some sort of demarcation line. How about this... The Republic of St Patrick can have the OTL island of Dominica and any island between that and your home territory??

[Rocano]

How far north. Nieuw Holland has no desire for war and suggests we agree some sort of demarcation line. How about this... The Republic of St Patrick can have the OTL island of Dominica and any island between that and your home territory??

Let us research the matter Further. Yes The Islands of OTL Dominica, Martinique, St.Lucia, Barbados, Grenada, St.Vincent and the Grenadines are Property of the Republic.

We also claim all land surrounding the OTL Gulf of Paria.

[Rocano]

Currently the Republic is Sending settlers to the Northern Island of Salann and the Island of Saoraid. Both within our Claims also a Small Settlement in the Gulf of Brothall has been founded named Deisceart.

1. Salann=Grenada

2. Saoraid=Barbados

3. Gulf of Brothall= Gulf of Paria

4. Deisceart=Macuro

[birdy]

La Rochelle has a population of around 1600. and is sending explorers around the land accorded to us by the treaty with Doestad.

[Codae]

Rio dos Camarãos has expanded. The western area is called Baía do Afonso, after King Afonso VI of Portugal. The population of the entire colony is roughly 1050.

[Bishop]

Nam Guo has reached a population of 1500.

[m2thet5678]

OOC: I think it should be time for another expansion round. Delete this post if you don't think so.
Novaya Moskva continues to expand. Its population was at 1800, with 1350 Russians and 450 slaves (imported from Mediterranean areas and more). Now, the population is 5000 people. 2000 are Russians, 1500 are slaves, and 1500 are miscegenated people that form a lower-middle class.

Expansion to be posted tomorrow.

[Mack of Raven]

The first thing i must explain is the Land van Doed is not part of the Dutch empire but is a part of a Alliance with the Dutch empire

The Population is grown to 2870 and it looks roughly like this:
62% Dutch
21% Other Europeans
10 % Other Free men
7% Slaves.

[Mack of Raven]

OOC: I think it should be time for another expansion round. Delete this post if you don't think so.
Novaya Moskva continues to expand. Its population was at 1800, with 1350 Russians and 450 slaves (imported from Mediterranean areas and more). Now, the population is 5000 people. 2000 are Russians, 1500 are slaves, and 1500 are miscegenated people that form a lower-middle class.

Expansion to be posted tomorrow.

Is 5000 not a little bit TOO big

[Mack of Raven]

The Updated map with the Claimes of all the countries apart :)

[Sgt Detritus]

Nieuw Holland establishes a series of settlements on the northern coast of South

OOC this would be the coastal strip of the OTL Dutch colony of Suriname

Also the population of Nieuw Holland has almost doubled to 4000 and we expect this to increase even quicker since the recent declaration of indepenced of the Republic of the United Provinces

OOC if I got the name of the Republic wrong I'm sure Mack will be only too pleased to correct me :)

[Sgt Detritus]

The first thing i must explain is the Land van Doed is not part of the Dutch empire but is a part of a Alliance with the Dutch empire


Interesting, as Nieuw Holland may end up being run by the Dutch West Indies Company

[Mack of Raven]

the WIC is a State Compagnie and not a privet one. :confused:

My last map was made with ms-paint and i din't like it so a beter one thate was made met Gimp.

[Sgt Detritus]

the WIC is a State Compagnie and not a privet one. :confused:


Ah, well in that case I'll just have Nieuw Holland as an inherent part of the Dutch Empire rather than some run by a company. Thanks for updating the map BTW

[m2thet5678]

You guys forgot Novaya Moskva's expansion!
I updated and changed it slightly.

[randomkeith]

Using our expanding population base the Samuri of Minjar have opened up the Galapogas Islands. Although these islands have little or no strategic value or mineral wealth. We are establishing colonies on them to act as a refeul and resupply depot for trans-pacific trade with the Japanese.

[birdy]

La Rochelle has started a recruitment drive among Protestants in France, Germany and Holland to settle the colonies rich farmlands, as well as artisans and craftsmen.

[Mack of Raven]

my population grow to 4325

45% Farmers
25% Traders
15% Militairy
10% Slaves
05% Miners

[Sgt Detritus]

La Rochelle has started a recruitment drive among Protestants in France, Germany and Holland to settle the colonies rich farmlands, as well as artisans and craftsmen.

OOC: Which colony is La Rochelle again, I'm kinda losing track.

The next time someone updates the map it might be an idea if they could the names of the various colonies next to their position on the map

[Rocano]

The repulic of Saint Patrick and Nova Hibernia has claimed the land directly south of of us please take a note of it.

[Codae]

Rio dos Camarãos is willing to trade directly with St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia or Novaya Moskva. We have cavé (OOC: coffee), a crop from the Indies we have been growing ourselves. It can be used to create a stimulating, nonalcoholic, beverage. What do you have to offer?

OOC: In OTL, the Portuguese word for coffee is "café". I've butterflied the word into a different spelling.

[Rocano]

Rio dos Camarãos is willing to trade directly with St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia or Novaya Moskva. We have cavé (OOC: coffee), a crop from the Indies we have been growing ourselves. It can be used to create a stimulating, nonalcoholic, beverage. What do you have to offer?

OOC: In OTL, the Portuguese word for coffee is "café". I've butterflied the word into a different spelling.

We have The Weed of the Devil(Tobacco) or Hibernian Leaf, it is a a Great and Healthy Substance. We also have Sugar and Fruits.

[Mack of Raven]

For all how are losing track.

the name of you countries:

1. Sao Diogo (See North America map)
2. Neu Deutchland
3. Nieuw Holland
4. Minjar Exiled Samuri colony
5. St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia
6. Rio dos Camarãos
7. Novaya Moskva
8. La Rochelle
9. Land van Doed
10. Nam Guo
11. New Glasgow

[Codae]

St. Patrick and Nova Hibernia claimed the land south of it.

[Codae]

Oh, and Haiti is controlled by the Bukkaneers.

With the sudden death of Portuguese king Afonso VIII, two rival claimants to the throne appear: the deceased's nephew, Filippo II, Duke of Savoy (OOC: not the same person as OTL), and the deceased's first cousin, Duarte (Edward), who is Portuguese. The two appear irreconcilable.

[Rocano]

We also own that Island between Nieuw Holland and Our most Northern Island

[Mack of Raven]

Due a heavy storm on sea, 4 of my ships drifted to the south. They founded the island there and are claimed by me.

[Mack of Raven]

around 1650 the Old flag is replaced with this one

[birdy]

La Rochelle now has a population of 4500. There has been a spurt in Huguenot emigration from France.

[birdy]

La Rochelle now has a population of 4500. There has been a spurt in Huguenot emigration from France.

OOC- If this is god-modding, then i'll change it.

[Rocano]

The Republic lays claim to the island of OTL Nueva Esparta

[Codae]

In 1596, Duarte surrenders to Filippo. Filippo takes the throne of Portugal as Filipe II. He is the first of the Savoyan dynasty.

At that point, the population of Rio dos Camarãos is roughly 1700. The two largest "cities" are Forte do Rio dos Camarãos, with about 550 people, and Macaréu (Tidal Bore), on Baía do Afonso, with about 400. Both are engaging in the trade of "cavay", as cavé became anglicized.

Filipe is planning to build a set of forts at the mouths of Rio Muito Grande (OTL Amazon River).

[Mack of Raven]

OOC- If this is god-modding, then i'll change it.

Yes your God-modding now,
your colony is too small to house 4500 people.
try halving it

[Mack of Raven]

My peoplation grow to 4560 and claiming more land.
and there now a couple settlements on the island in the south
there names are:
Walviseiland (South-Georgië)
Zuidelijk Groenland (Falklands)

[birdy]

Yes your God-modding now,
your colony is too small to house 4500 people.
try halving it

Make it 2500 then?

[Sgt Detritus]

Nieuw Holland's colony on the north coast of South America expands a bit along in an easterly direction

[Sgt Detritus]

In 1596, Duarte surrenders to Filippo. Filippo takes the throne of Portugal as Filipe II. He is the first of the Savoyan dynasty.



Did the Spaniards take any part in the war?? If they did it might mean their concentration was taken away from trying to get the United Provinces back

[Mack of Raven]

Make it 2500 then?

Yes that sounds right.
You have to expand to the north before you becrust between my colony and that from Novaya Moskva.

Land van Doed propose a Trade-alliancy with La Rochelle and Nieuw Nederland. and a None-agression traety with La Rochelle.
Sight
Land van Doed
fore more information send a personal message!

[birdy]

[quote=Mack of Raven;1468645]Yes that sounds right.
You have to expand to the north before you becrust between my colony and that from Novaya Moskva.



quote]

Alright then, i'll expand my hinterland up to the borders of his colony, is it appropiate to ask whether he's alright with that?

[birdy]

[quote=Mack of Raven;1468645]Yes that sounds right.
You have to expand to the north before you becrust between my colony and that from Novaya Moskva.



quote]

Alright then, i'll expand my hinterland up to the borders of his colony, is it appropiate to ask whether he's alright with that?

My computer won't save the map. Could whoever updates the map just add in my enlargened border.

[Codae]

Did the Spaniards take any part in the war?? If they did it might mean their concentration was taken away from trying to get the United Provinces back

They tried to support Filippo, but they spread their forces between Portugal and Holland, being effective in neither place. Duarte surrendered, however, when captured by a band of Spanish soldiers, so Spain takes the credit for the win. He was captured, however, after a surprise maneuver by Filippo himself...

[Mack of Raven]

here you go!

[birdy]

Thanks:)

Due to Indian raids, The Colonial Government of La Rochelle has formed a defence militia made up of the able bodied male colonists.

[Sgt Detritus]

Land van Doed propose a Trade-alliancy with La Rochelle and Nieuw Nederland. and a None-agression traety with La Rochelle.
Sight
Land van Doed
fore more information send a personal message!

Nieuw Holland is most interested in this idea. We are already a member of a similar grouping of nations in North America. We could therefore act as a gobetween.

The population of Nieuw Holland has only increased to 4300 since the last census. The reason for such a small increase was a tribal revolt on the island of Nieuw combined with a plague outbreak in Nieuw Friesland, our colony on the South American coast

[Mack of Raven]

names of parts of my colony :D

[Rocano]

also remember my claim to Nueva Esparta

[Mack of Raven]

here you go :)

[Sgt Detritus]

An update on the governmental structure of Nieuw Holland which involves a small degree of retconning


The High Commissioner of Nieuw Holland, Piet van der Valk has decided to divide Nieuw Holland into three provinces, Nieuw Holland, Nieuw Friesland and New Utrecht. Nieuw Holland consists of the island of the same name plus some nearby island (the OTL Virgin Islands). Nieuw Friesland consists of the other islands owned by Nieuw Holland in the Caribbean Sea whereas Nieuw Utrecht is the name given to our colony on the coast of South America.

The population of the whole colony is subdivided thus

Nieuw Holland 2500 half of which live in the capital Nieuwpoort

Nieuw Friesland 900

Nieuw Utrecht 900

Of course by population I'm only refering to the European settlers

OOC: not sure what the Dutch translation of high commissioner would be, as for his name it's a bit of an in-joke for any other Brits who post here :)

[Sgt Detritus]

They tried to support Filippo, but they spread their forces between Portugal and Holland, being effective in neither place. Duarte surrendered, however, when captured by a band of Spanish soldiers, so Spain takes the credit for the win. He was captured, however, after a surprise maneuver by Filippo himself...

As long as Portugal doesn't become a sort of Spanish client state.....

[Codae]

There's not much chance of that. Filipe II is a strong ruler, and the Spanish don't have very good leadership at this point. Spain does have a somewhat stronger military, but wouldn't be able to use it effectively to rule Portugal.

[Sgt Detritus]

There's not much chance of that. Filipe II is a strong ruler, and the Spanish don't have very good leadership at this point. Spain does have a somewhat stronger military, but wouldn't be able to use it effectively to rule Portugal.

The trouble then is they might use to have another go at the United Provinces

[Sgt Detritus]

Yes that sounds right.
You have to expand to the north before you becrust between my colony and that from Novaya Moskva.

Land van Doed propose a Trade-alliancy with La Rochelle and Nieuw Nederland. and a None-agression traety with La Rochelle.


Might I suggest we also invite St Patrick/Nova Hibernia to join the trade pact

[Mack of Raven]

Oke i will

Land van Doed propose a Trade-alliancy with St Patrick/Nova Hibernia and therefore accepting a trade-alliancy with Nieuw Nederland and La Rochelle.

[Rocano]

Oke i will

Land van Doed propose a Trade-alliancy with St Patrick/Nova Hibernia and therefore accepting a trade-alliancy with Nieuw Nederland and La Rochelle.

The Republic agrees to this.

[Mack of Raven]

my colony is growing an growing :p

mosty second an third generation Colonist and only about 150 settlers from abrout(?)
my population is about 5340

[Sgt Detritus]

OOC, I've kinda lost track of time. By my calculation the last time-jump would have taken us to 1600. Can anyone confirm or deny this??

[birdy]

The population of La Rochelle is around 2800.

[Codae]

OOC, I've kinda lost track of time. By my calculation the last time-jump would have taken us to 1600. Can anyone confirm or deny this??

OOC: Sure.

IC: Rio dos Camarãos has grown to roughly 2600 people. It has made no territorial acquisitions, other than the building of a fort at the mouth of the Rio Mierto Grande (OTL Amazon).

[Communist Wizard]

Neu Deutshcland has grown. It has recently set up a fort at, and claimed, the Neu Bremen Isthmus. Expansion on the coast has taken place.
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[m2thet5678]

I am sorry to announce that I will be dropping out of this game due to various matters. Please also drop me out of the North America thread.

[birdy]

La Rochelle continues to expand along its coast.

[Sgt Detritus]

The comissioner of Nieuw Holland's province of Nieuw Utrecht decides to undertake some exploration of the land beyond N.U. . To this ends he sends two exploratory missions down two of the rivers in N.U.

There haven't been that many new colonists in the past few years as the United Provinces have been too busy fighting the Spanish in Europe. High Comissioner Van der Valk comes up with the idea of asking for colonists in all the Protestant countries of northern Europe


The rivers in question are the ones known OTL as the Corantijn and Marowijne Rivers

[Mack of Raven]

What happend to Novaya Moskva
I think there was a civilwar and a outbreak of a native diseas. :confused:

[Mack of Raven]

Are we death YET!!!


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[birdy]

Are we death YET!!!



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Probably:(, everyone seems to have lost interest.

[Mack of Raven]

Plaese can we close the treat?


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