Make your own colony(North America)

[demonkangaroo]

Here are the rules:
1.)You start with one colony, in North America, or South America. South America will be posted soon, and will be run by Communist Wizard. You MAY have a colony in N. A., and on in S.A.
2.)Let's be realistic here. You cannot have 5,000 settlers, at least to begin with. Start with a small population, and let it grow. Also, no god-modding. Any god-modding will have your territory be annexed by anyone who wants it. :p
3.)No wars, at least early on.
4.) All political acts will be in bold letters
5.) Please, let's keep the maps PNG.
6.)Oh, and standard gaming rules apply, such as be civil in and out of the game, blah, blah, blah.
Have fun. Oh, and use this template for when you claim an area.
This is my claim.
Name:New Edinburgh
Year Founded:1522
Population: 400
Country, or Business who founded it:Nova Scotia trading company
Location:On the Saint Lawrence River
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 67% White European (Scottish, Welsh Majority), 21% Amerindian/Mixed, 12% Black African
And use this map:

[Odin]

Name:New Prussia
Year Founded:1522
Population: 900
Country, or Business who founded it:Prussia
Location:Coastal Area of OTL Massachusetts, Specifically Boston Area
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 70% White European (Prussian, Germanic), 20% Amerindian/Mixed, 10% Black African


OOC: Might be better if the map was a tiny bit smaller, also first time I've tried this, so is there more rules re the game?

[xphile2868]

Name:Proletaria
Year Founded:1600
Population: 625
Country, or Business who founded it:England
Location:OTL Southampton Island, Nunavut, Canada
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 65% English, 15% Irish, 10% Scottish, 5% French, 5% Native American

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/xphile2868/northamericamap.png

[Panther III]

Name: New Liverpool
Year Founded:1523
Population: 750
Country, or Business who founded it: England
Location: OTL Philadelphia/Chesapeake
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 60% English, 10% Scottish, 5% Welsh, 5% Irish, 15% Amerindian, 5% African

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8628/meak9.png

[EvolvedLupine]

Name:DeLaWarr
Year Founded:1642
Population: ~1,000
Country, or Business who founded it: Welsh Republic
Location: OTLDelmarva Peninsula
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: ~60% White European(Welsh/English Majority with French Sweede minority) ~20% Native American, ~20% African American.

Map:

[Odin]

OOC: Some of the Population sizes and land claims are a bit big arent they? Plus we have two players claiming the same territory.

[sphinxeguy]

Name: Sao Diogo
Year Founded: 1504
Population: 1,200
Country, or Business who founded it: Portugal
Location: North Florida
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 80% Portuguese, 15% African, 5% Indian

[Locke]

Name: Georgia
Year Founded: 1633
Population: 1,100
Country that founded it: England
Location: On the Savannah River, and a part of the Georgian/South Carolinan coast
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 80% white, 10% black, 10% native american

[Rocano]

Name: New Cobh
Founded: 1625
By: Irish Homeland Society
Location: Long Island
Population: 1,200

[EvolvedLupine]

If anyone thinks I will give up my claim they are out of their mind, I actually LIVE in the area I claimed, plus I started typing before he posted....

[Locke]

If anyone thinks I will give up my claim they are out of their mind, I actually LIVE in the area I claimed, plus I started typing before he posted....

Wether or not you did, he stil posted three minutes before you did, so he beat you to it. If you want, you can try and convince him to pick another area.

[Communist Wizard]

Be civil...
Name: Nova Hellas
Year Founded:1522
Population: 800
Country, or Business who founded it: Greek Kingdom
Location: Rio Grande River delta
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 40% Greeek, 41% Aegyptian, 15% Black African, 4% Other
And use this map:
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[Hawkeye]

Name: Kingdom of Fedora
Year Founded: 1541
County or Business who founded it: refugees
Location: west of the mississippi river
Population: 800

[Bishop]

name: Mei guo
year founded: 1550
population: 900
group that founded it: exiles
location: Between Strait and the Coast Mountains

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[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia:
Date Founded: 1530
Population: 800
Founded By: Russian Exiles
Location: the random peninsula near Newfoundland (guess who gets the fish:))
I put Rocano's and that Northern Red guy's claim on the map, too.

Oops. Sorry for all the blank space. If you can, delete my map but not my post.

[Bishop]

m2thet5678, where's my claim though.

[m2thet5678]

To Bishop: I'm terribly sorry. The problem was that we were making posts at almost the same time, so I forgot yours.

I would add it, but I will have to rework my map to avoid further inconvenience. So I guess one of you can do a better job.

[m2thet5678]

To old to edit, so I gotta double post.
I hope I got everyone this time.
Everyone is labeled, too.
BTW, anyone know any other paint programs besides MS Paint?

To Mei Guo: Hope you like chillin' alone on the West Side. :)

[Agentdark]

I am sorry, but this game is in violation of shared worlds rules, I can move it to another subforum though?

[Agentdark]

Moved to Collaborative projects

[Hawkeye]

the newly created Royal Fedoran Navy, builds Fort Vincent in louisiana to establish trade in the Gulf of Mexico
(sorry I cant print in bold letters :D)

[cow defender]

Pirate Kingdom of Bukkannerr
Founded: ca. 1555
Nation: Founded by Dutch Pirate Zwarte Baronet
Population: 800
Location: Hispaniola

[e350tb]

Name: British Texan Colony
Year Founded: 1663
Population: 560
Country, or Business who founded it: Britain
Location: Texan Coast
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 84% White European (British Majority), 16% Native American

Governed by Governor Sandy Cheeks (Maybe.)

[Ind89]

Name: Vancouver
Year Founded: 1792
Population: 200
Founded by: George Vancouver
Location: Vancouver Island
Major Ethnicities: 80% White, 20% Native American

[cow defender]

d'oh forgot to put my population demographics

25% Dutch
25% English, Scot, Welsh, Irish (in that order)
15% French
10% Spanish, Portuguese
10% Native
5% Black
10% Slave* (About half natives half africans)

*only counts resident slaves, not those being sold/transported

[Sgt Detritus]

In the South America thread I've just claimed the island of Puerto Rico in the name of the Dutch colony of Nieuw Holland. As Puerto Rico appears on the maps in both thread I thought it best if I repeated the claim in this thread

Name: Nieuw Holland
Year Founded :1600
Population 800
Founded by: United Provinces
Ethinicity of the Colonists: The European settlers are 90% Dutch. The other 10% is a mix of various northern European nationalities (English, Danes, Norwegians)

[Red Dawn]

Name: Republic of Cydonîa
Year Founded: 1567
Population: 880
Founded by: Romanian refugees :p
Location: The biggest island of the Bahama's (OTL Nassau)
Major Ethnicities: 90% Romanian, 9% Native, 1% Other nationalities

[Panther III]

Name: Dutch North America
Year Founded: 1568
Population: 1000
Founded by: the Dutch
Location: Mississippi Delta
Major Ethnicities: 60% Dutch, 15% Fedoran, 10% African, 10% Native, 5% Belgian

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/949/mapsq9.png

[Rocano]

New Cobh has extended its control to the Island of Manhattan and have established a small port there.

[Bishop]

I forgot to add demographics for mei guo.

It's 90% chinese, 5% white and 5% native american

[demonkangaroo]

Some of yinz's populations are a tad on the big side. Just a friendly reminder here. Nothing above 1,500. oh, and

New Edinburgh would like to establish diplomatic relations with DeLaWar.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo wishes to establish diplomatic relations with Vancouver

[Hawkeye]

Fedora would also like to establish diplomatic relations with Dutch North America

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia would like to establish diplomatic relations with New Prussia, New Cobh, and New Edinburgh.

OOC: We can't find anyone else yet. Also, I will be founding a fort in a but. Right now I'm at school. When I'm at home, I will post the location.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo would also like to establish diplomatic relations with Fedora.

We have begun construction of a new trading outpost and fort south of us along the west coast. The port will be open to all for trade. The port shall be announced when completed

[Ind89]

Mei Guo wishes to establish diplomatic relations with Vancouver

We will send an ambassador.

[Odin]

Novaya Russia would like to establish diplomatic relations with New Prussia, New Cobh, and New Edinburgh.

OOC: We can't find anyone else yet. Also, I will be founding a fort in a but. Right now I'm at school. When I'm at home, I will post the location.

New Prussia is more than happy to Open diplomatic ties with all the Eastern coast powers closeby.

Currently focusing on securing our area.

[Communist Wizard]

Nova Hellas (New Greece) would like to establish relations with all powers in the area... (If any).

[Bishop]

Nova Hellas (New Greece) would like to establish relations with all powers in the area... (If any).

Mei Guo will open ties with Nova Hellas.

Mei Guo intends to map out safe routes to go from the west coast to east coast, we wish to have a joint exploration project with any interested to map out the safest route from the west to east coast.

[Rocano]

New Cobh wwould be glad to establish Relations with any and all Nations. As long as they do not support England.

[Communist Wizard]

Nova Hellas has made a map of the area. We would like to claim the regions of the River of Hellas (OTL Rio Grande) and it's surroundings. The River seems to wind through unclaimed desert, like the Nile...
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[Bishop]

We have completed a new fort and trading post along the west coast called San Fan Tzu, we will like to claim the surrounding areas.(OOC: Basically location of OTL San Francisco).

[Odin]

OOC: Do we have some rules for expansion? Also what year are we currently, in as we were all founded at different times.

[Communist Wizard]

OOC: Do we have some rules for expansion? Also what year are we currently, in as we were all founded at different times.
Let me work it out with Kangaroo...

[Odin]

Let me work it out with Kangaroo...

OOC: Well if that's the case I suggest no one expand until this is all sorted out.

[Communist Wizard]

OOC: Well if that's the case I suggest no one expand until this is all sorted out.
OOC: I'm claiming, mostly. The Hellas will not just march across so easily...

[Odin]

New Prussia intends to expand into the Conneticut, Massachusets, Rhode Island, Vermont and New Hampshire Areas in due time.

[m2thet5678]

My fort will go in this place:

Soon, we shall have the entire peninsula and more! (Like parts of coastal Maine. The others can split the rest). We might also gain a warm island for food, during bad fishing seasons.


OOC: I know shouldn't expand yet, but 3 other guys have already started, so whatever. My expansion is tiny anyways.

[demonkangaroo]

Novaya Russia would like to establish diplomatic relations with New Prussia, New Cobh, and New Edinburgh.

OOC: We can't find anyone else yet. Also, I will be founding a fort in a but. Right now I'm at school. When I'm at home, I will post the location.
Novaya Russia is welcomed with open arms

[Odin]

Novaya Russia is welcomed with open arms

Same from new Prussia :D

[m2thet5678]

To all: Yes, Novaya Russia is looking for friends. We had few back in Russia. We would have landed farther South, but lack of food forced us to stop here. fortunately, theres tons of fish around.

[Rocano]

Novaya Russia is welcomed with open arms

New Cobh would like to meet with Novaya Russian Leaders to discuss Peace in the North. We invite New Edinburgh and New Prussia as well since we are all in the same area.

[Odin]

New Prussia is more than happy to attend. Some items we would like to discuss.

1. The matters of the indians.
2. Initial Claims for territory
3. Trade.

OOC I envisage New Prussia claiming some territory as previously stated in an outline, dotting it with forts, and slowly colouring it in full, as families move out to start farms and settle and clear land. Seems the best way to expand to me, and ensures everyone doesn't go to quick.

[Rocano]

New Prussia is more than happy to attend. Some items we would like to discuss.

1. The matters of the indians.
2. Initial Claims for territory
3. Trade.

OOC I envisage New Prussia claiming some territory as previously stated in an outline, dotting it with forts, and slowly colouring it in full, as families move out to start farms and settle and clear land. Seems the best way to expand to me, and ensures everyone doesn't go to quick.

Grand than. We propose that the conference be hosted in New Cobh.

[Odin]

Grand than. We propose that the conference be hosted in New Cobh.

New Prussia will attend and is happy to have the conference hosted there.

[Bishop]

The small fort of San Fan Tzu has been created and plans for settlers are underway.(OOC:In OTL San Francisco)

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[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia will be happy to send delegates to discuss land claims, trade, and Native American affairs.

OOC: I'll post an updated map after I finish my homework.

[Locke]

Georgia is expanding northwards and southwards along the coast. The Royal Navy of Georgia has been formally constituted, and it consists of ten gunboats (12 guns), five sloops (24 guns)three frigates (36 guns), and one ship of the line (64 guns) bought from England.

[Bishop]

Georgia is expanding northwards and southwards along the coast. The Royal Navy of Georgia has been formally constituted, and it consists of ten gunboats (12 guns), five sloops (24 guns)three frigates (36 guns), and one ship of the line (64 guns) bought from England.

OOC: Isn't that a bit big for such a small colony, after all we aren't that big and generally around a thousand.

[m2thet5678]

Georgia is expanding northwards and southwards along the coast. The Royal Navy of Georgia has been formally constituted, and it consists of ten gunboats (12 guns), five sloops (24 guns)three frigates (36 guns), and one ship of the line (64 guns) bought from England.

OOC: Aside from being kinda big, this stuff existed circa 1540?
Assuming 10 people per gunboat, 20 per sloop, 30 per frigate, and 50 per ship-of-the-line, you would have 360 men in your navy alone. For a colony with 1000 people, that sounds like a lot. And don't forget your army, too. Who is going to get the food, then?

Prussia is going to put a small fort on the mainland. It claims, but has not expanded into, the peninsula (more later).

[Locke]

OOC: Aside from being kinda big, this stuff existed circa 1540?
Assuming 10 people per gunboat, 20 per sloop, 30 per frigate, and 50 per ship-of-the-line, you would have 360 men in your navy alone. For a colony with 1000 people, that sounds like a lot. And don't forget your army, too. Who is going to get the food, then?

Prussia is going to put a small fort on the mainland. It claims, but has not expanded into, the peninsula (more later).

OOC: OOP! Sorry! Got kinda carried away there. But anyweays, what is the current year? Its not 1540, I hope! :eek:

[Rocano]

OOC: OOP! Sorry! Got kinda carried away there. But anyweays, what is the current year? Its not 1540, I hope! :eek:


Yes. It is. This is supposed to be the 1500's

[m2thet5678]

Map Update:
Georgia has "expanded to the North and the South"
Prussia has expanded sort of. It is "consolidating its area". The slightly discolored areas show its expansion (you may have to zoom in).
New Cobh wanted Manhattan, but I couldn't find it, so I gave it a bit of land near the river.
Novaya Russia has 2 forts.
Mei Guo is in San Francisco.

[Odin]

OOC: i still think this expansion is a bit much, but nvm. There should be some rule about people expanding from there main base. You'd have what 100 people at your second base, and what 20- or 30 soldiers, you wont be able to do much until you get more population. Huge territorial gains, hell even small ones are a bit of a stretch when you have 900 or 1500 people. We all have territory that is quite empty.

Think we should hold this conference first and await further news from the gamemasters, btw. I'd also like to control my own expansion plz, even if it was a good gesture.

OOC: what is that blue territory around fort vincent?

[Odin]

A fleet of free ships arrives from Prussia with 150 new colonists. Along with 30 more soldiers. These settle the new areas claimed by New Prussia.

[Odin]

New Prussia Puts forward this Claim at the Conference at New Cobh. This area is not occupied by Prussia yet, however of the next years ( to be determined, we want to expand into this area)

OOC: I think I will slowly dot forts in here, the more forts, the more of the territory you can fill in, and slowly take the whole lot, this whole I just annexed this whole are and plenty of people are in there now seems a bit fake to me, atm if we are in the 1500's the main population growth we will get for a while is from inbound colonists,

New Prussias population is now 1080, the new colonists have moved into the recent additions added previous.

New Prussia is happy to discuss it's claims.

[m2thet5678]

OOC: Well, if there is trouble, I an pull out from one of my forts. But Mei Guo has a fort as far away as San Francisco, and mine are nearby.

Anyways, I got another boat of exiles with 100 colonists and 40 soldiers. The Tsar is going crazy over in Muscovy.

This is Novaya Russia's preliminary claim. It will be populated the same way as Prussia's plans.

(Map coming shortly)

[Ind89]

Vancouver has built several trading posts in the striped area on the map, our first claim outside of Vancouver. In addition, the colony has received 600 new colonists, with 400 of them settling in the striped area and 200 on Vancouver Island, for a total of 800.

[Red Dawn]

A New Group of about 400 settlers arrive and settle on the southern tip of Florida, adding this territory to the Cydonîa Republic (pop. 1325).

At this point, Cydonîa has a small army of about 100 soldiers and a small navy.

EDIT: Map :D

[Hawkeye]

Mei Guo would also like to establish diplomatic relations with Fedora.

We have begun construction of a new trading outpost and fort south of us along the west coast. The port will be open to all for trade. The port shall be announced when completed

we will acept trade from Mei Guo
also Fedora has had a baby boom population is now 1234 with 70 troops in and 50 residence in Fort Vincent

[Odin]

OOC: I think having a fort nearby is realistic, but I think establishing another fort some 1000 or however many miles away from your initial base is a bit of a joke, especially if the main colony only has 1000 or so people. If we're trying to keep this realistic, the fort 1000 miles away would probably be led by someone else from the players home country. But it's up for the people running the game to decide, I'm just stating my opinion. I think New Russias fort position is realistic enough.

Needless to say I think the two players on here that have forts etc so far away from their main claims it's not funny should renounce those claims. Considering you both have around 1000 people in you main base, and the amount of territory you both have, you probably have less than 1 colonist per 10 sq kilometres of you domain maybe even 100 sq kilometres, one big indian raid would wipe out your forts or main base. Thats why I think it's total nonsense.

Fendoras navy or whatever you want to call it would probably only consist of one ship, since a ship of the line or whatever it is would probably need around 50-60 crew.

[Sgt Detritus]

Can we have an official statement on what year it is ingame???

I might end up having to retcon the date of the establishment of Nieuw Holland and indeed who created as the entity known as the United Provinces only came into existence in the 1580s

[Rocano]

Can we have an official statement on what year it is ingame???

I might end up having to retcon the date of the establishment of Nieuw Holland and indeed who created as the entity known as the United Provinces only came into existence in the 1580s

He do what I did. Say that it was Dutch People looking for a Homeland.

[Sgt Detritus]

He do what I did. Say that it was Dutch People looking for a Homeland.

That would make sense and it would ensure a constant supply of new settlers as more people from the Netherlands flee Spanish tyranny

[Sgt Detritus]

Little bit of retconning for Nieuw Holland:

Name: Nieuw Holland
Year Founded :1538
Population 800
Founded by: Dutch refugees/exiles
Ethinicity of the Colonists: The European settlers are 90% Dutch. The other 10% is a mix of various northern European nationalities (English, Danes, Norwegians)

[demonkangaroo]

To clear things up, it is 1560. Every week, we add ten years. you may expand a little after a week, so, no day by day expansion. So, for example, New Prussia, since it has expanded today, next week, it'll be able to expand a little more. oh, and
New Edinburgh is happy to announce that The Nova Scotia company has sent us 300 soldiers, and 100 colonists. Also, we are building a fort to the south of the colony.

[Ind89]

OOC: I'm also going to change the date my colony was founded.

IC:

Name: Vancouver
Year Founded: 1553
Population: 200 (now 1,000)
Founded by: English Protestants fleeing persecution, led by John Vancouver
Ethnicities: 90% European, 10% Native American

[Hawkeye]

OOC: I think having a fort nearby is realistic, but I think establishing another fort some 1000 or however many miles away from your initial base is a bit of a joke, especially if the main colony only has 1000 or so people. If we're trying to keep this realistic, the fort 1000 miles away would probably be led by someone else from the players home country. But it's up for the people running the game to decide, I'm just stating my opinion. I think New Russias fort position is realistic enough.

Needless to say I think the two players on here that have forts etc so far away from their main claims it's not funny should renounce those claims. Considering you both have around 1000 people in you main base, and the amount of territory you both have, you probably have less than 1 colonist per 10 sq kilometres of you domain maybe even 100 sq kilometres, one big indian raid would wipe out your forts or main base. Thats why I think it's total nonsense.

Fendoras navy or whatever you want to call it would probably only consist of one ship, since a ship of the line or whatever it is would probably need around 50-60 crew.

our Fort is down the mississippi river so its easy to get to. And its vitle to have otherwise we be cut off from every other colony and sure "maybe" a bunch of native americans with nothing but bows and spears could do some damedge but where is this BIG BUCH of native americans who's sole purpous in life is our doom rather then working every day so they can live
I think that justifies my claim.

[Odin]

yeah whatever it's up to the people running the game to decide, but give me a break, easy to get to? It would take at least a week to sail there and the ship would probably get wrecked on route, considering how the river changes etc. 50 soldiers could easily be wiped out by 500 indians with spears and arrows, considering all you have is 15th century muskets.

[Odin]

BTW, if this game is going to run on a 10 year, basis I have a few questions. What population growth would be considered ok? I could see maybe 3 or 4 ships arriving at everybodys colony each year? maybe more, this would give maybe 600 or so colonists and maybe 100 or so soldiers, over 10 years that would equal around 1000 troops and 6000 new settlers.

Is that too much or too little? Also can we add territory year by year? Or stick to the new map once every turn? ie 10 years

[Communist Wizard]

As mod, I would probably say that the Indians can be friendly if you stay in your one place the whole game, but if you have have religious/barbarian issues with them (from what I gather, everyone), or start expanding... The natives will be hostile, and you with only 16th century tech will not just shrug it off...
Fedora is practically surrounded by natives...
I think we mods will control the natives.
Nova Hellas expands up the Hellas river (OTL Rio Grande).
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[Bishop]

Vancouver has built several trading posts in the striped area on the map, our first claim outside of Vancouver. In addition, the colony has received 600 new colonists, with 400 of them settling in the striped area and 200 on Vancouver Island, for a total of 800.

Mei Guo demands that Vancouver put the new stripped area as part of a co-administered area between the two of us due the ease you can use the area to blackade our waterways.

OOC: I think having a fort nearby is realistic, but I think establishing another fort some 1000 or however many miles away from your initial base is a bit of a joke, especially if the main colony only has 1000 or so people. If we're trying to keep this realistic, the fort 1000 miles away would probably be led by someone else from the players home country. But it's up for the people running the game to decide, I'm just stating my opinion. I think New Russias fort position is realistic enough.

Needless to say I think the two players on here that have forts etc so far away from their main claims it's not funny should renounce those claims. Considering you both have around 1000 people in you main base, and the amount of territory you both have, you probably have less than 1 colonist per 10 sq kilometres of you domain maybe even 100 sq kilometres, one big indian raid would wipe out your forts or main base. Thats why I think it's total nonsense.

Fendoras navy or whatever you want to call it would probably only consist of one ship, since a ship of the line or whatever it is would probably need around 50-60 crew.

OOC: I have a fort in San Francisco because I'm off the shore, I can easily sail the west coast down to it. If it was inland then that's understandable, but I can get there by sailing easily.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo has received 200 colonists, they have all gone to the main territory. We are now 1100 strong.

Our trading post San Fan Tzu is currently manned by 20 people.

We have decided to give military training to all able-bodied young males to form a militia.

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia gets 50 more colonists and 10 more soldiers. They all go to the newest fort.
Population now at 1000 exactly. Circa 650 are on the mainland colony. Each fort has 175 people.
We are also forming a militia. Soldiers in the mainland colony are learning how to fish to help with food gathering from the vast "Newfoundland" fisheries.

OOC: I haven't decided how many troops I have yet. I will see later according to other people's numbers. We still aren't very hostile towards the Natives.

[demonkangaroo]

New Edinburgh expands towards the seaway. We also are starting to import some naval guns. Soon, we shall start a navy! :D

[Odin]

OOC: So any more rules re population growth? If we're playing 10 year turns, I'm planning on having a colony strength of 6000-8000 by the next 10 year turn. Will also post progression maps up till the next 10 year turn if that's ok.

[Rocano]

New Cobh claims sovereingntyover all the area up to the New Prussian Claim

[Odin]

New Prussia is fine with that on the condition you outline where your claims are, If you don't mind Highlighting what your claiming but havent settled yet, I'd appreciate it. (Within Reason)

[Bishop]

New Edinburgh expands towards the seaway. We also are starting to import some naval guns. Soon, we shall start a navy! :D

Mei Guo demands to know the details of these naval guns. We also wish to know the reason behind this naval expansion, New Edinburgh has no threat except for Indians who are too far inland for ships to make a difference.

[EvolvedLupine]

Some of yinz's populations are a tad on the big side. Just a friendly reminder here. Nothing above 1,500. oh, and

New Edinburgh would like to establish diplomatic relations with DeLaWar.
DeLaWarr would be happy to open relations with New Endinburgh..
We are also starting to build a small defence force, mainly sloops and the like, and want to know if any other colonys wish to help...

[EvolvedLupine]

DeLaWarr is pround to announce that we hve expanded, and have established enclaves across the Dealware Bay and in the Tidewater area...
We also have laid claim to the shaded areas(please note: we have no real control over these areas AS OF YET, but, those are the areas granted to us by the Colonial Charter and the Treaty of Cardiff between England and the Welsh Republic........)

[cow defender]

=We will be accepting tribute in exchange for the protection of naval merchant vessels in the Carribean, beware these waters be dangerous without friends :cool:
- Bukkanner King

[cow defender]

The Bukkanner King accepts men (AND ESPECIALLY WOMEN) from all nations, especially those with seafaring experience, as well as soldiers, merchants, farmers and doctors

[Odin]

OOC: In light of what people think are reasonable claims, and also in light of the fact that another player expanded my territory without my permission, I am expanding the amount of territory I currently occupy to reflect this.

Prussias current territory, the the two points sticking out are forts linked to my territory by roads and a few farms. The rest of the shaded Area I currently havent occupied yet, but I have claimed.

[EvolvedLupine]

DeLaWarr would like to open relations with New Prussia,New Cobh,New Liverpool,Georgia, and the caribbean colonys(as we would like to do trade in that area)


To the nation offering escort: How much of a "Tribute" do you want?

[Bishop]

Due to some militarisation by some colonies, we have decided to import our own naval guns, we have decided on sloops after being impressed by the ships owned by our western friends.

OOC: DelawareWerewolf, remember that you will have to face a lot of Indian resistance to take those lands.

[EvolvedLupine]

Due to some militarisation by some colonies, we have decided to import our own naval guns, we have decided on sloops after being impressed by the ships owned by our western friends.
OOC: Which colony are you?

[EvolvedLupine]

Due to some militarisation by some colonies, we have decided to import our own naval guns, we have decided on sloops after being impressed by the ships owned by our western friends.

OOC: DelawareWerewolf, remember that you will have to face a lot of Indian resistance to take those lands.
OOC:The shaded areas are only what is allowed to us by colonial charter, I dont actually have control over them....

[Bishop]

OOC: Which colony are you?

OOC: Mei Guo

OOC:The shaded areas are only what is allowed to us by colonial charter, I dont actually have control over them....

OOC: I know, I'm saying don't underestimate the natives and overestimate our men.

[EvolvedLupine]

For the record, DeLaWarr has a very good record with the natives(we honor our treatys.......)

[Odin]

While New Prussia Has no in principle issues with Delawar claiming the southern areas, In regards to the Northern Claim, To Quote the Governor of New Prussia " You have to be kidding me ".

This Northern Claim is trespassing into New Prussia and New Cobh's sphere of Influence and we view this claim with severe Suspicion. New Prussia Urges a conference with New Cobh and Novaya Russia, to discuss this matter.

The Governors Fast Sloop has been dispatched to Prussia as a matter of haste to ask for reinforcements to counter this threat

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia will attend this conference. Currently, we are focused on consolidating our areas, and will expand later in the future. We expect more people to come and be born due to our plentiful stores of fish, fur, and food.

[Odin]

New Prussia is Focusing on Fostering agriculture and Fishing in it's Current Territories, The main colony area has a good harbor, and a fledgling fishing industry has started. Some hunting of wild animals to increase the meat content of colonists diets has begun.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo has pushed a policy of incentives for having children due to the large amounts of unoccupied territory at our disposal.

[Odin]

At the conference New Prussia Posts an altered map with what it considers to be a reasonable claim for Delawar in the north. It puts this forwards to other parties and asks them to discuss

[Bishop]

Mei Guo has plotted a route to the Mississipi river to link up with the eastern colonies, we wish to build a fort to the north of the river as well as other forts along the river to act as a resting point for our traders. Due to the distance from the main colony, we request Fedora's assisstance in building and maintaing the fort.

Fedora should have no problem assisting us in building the forts to link up our two colonies. Fedora will benefit from the trade this will bring to our two colonies. We will not expand from several small forts and requests to hear your terms in helping us maintain these forts.

We will not accept the terms if they are too much of a burden for us and erases all the gains we will make from these forts.

[Odin]

OOC: Is this a combined river/land route or is there an actual total river link from the west coast to the mississipi?

[Bishop]

OOC: Is this a combined river/land route or is there an actual total river link from the west coast to the mississipi?

OOC: A combined river/land route, I could slowly expand and do it myself eventually, but this will be faster. I travel from my colony to a fort by the Mississipi and resupply and take the river down.

[Communist Wizard]

Nova Hellas will be going up the Hellas River, and we believe that it will lead us close to you [Mei Guo] so, perhaps we will engage in such a project as well?

[Bishop]

Nova Hellas will be going up the Hellas River, and we believe that it will lead us close to you [Mei Guo] so, perhaps we will engage in such a project as well?

We would like to have any assisstance we can, the forts will be a joint project and it is still open to Fedora if they wish to join.

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia shall discuss a future Southern boundary with the Prussians at the conference.
Also, due to large food supply and many children being born, the population is rising.(But it will only really rise in a few days along with everyone elses).
Our scouts who went to establish a route to Novaya Moskva in the Southern hemisphere (some time ago) encountered Nova Hellas. We would like to bring our regards.
OOC: I'll post the map later.

[EvolvedLupine]

While New Prussia Has no in principle issues with Delawar claiming the southern areas, In regards to the Northern Claim, To Quote the Governor of New Prussia " You have to be kidding me ".

This Northern Claim is trespassing into New Prussia and New Cobh's sphere of Influence and we view this claim with severe Suspicion. New Prussia Urges a conference with New Cobh and Novaya Russia, to discuss this matter.

The Governors Fast Sloop has been dispatched to Prussia as a matter of haste to ask for reinforcements to counter this threat
Our claims were Granted to us by The Welsh Republic and by agreement between the Welsh Republic and His Majesty the King of England!!!!!
They are ours by right and Colonial charter long before you even set foot on these shores!
At the conference New Prussia Posts an altered map with what it considers to be a reasonable claim for Delawar in the north. It puts this forwards to other parties and asks them to discuss
Our claims were Granted to us by The Welsh Republic and by agreement between the Welsh Republic and His Majesty the King of England!!!!!
They are ours by right and Colonial charter long before you even set foot on these shores!

[EvolvedLupine]

To be quite honest, the Original Colonial Charter of DeLaWarr gave us far,far more land, espcially in the Northeast, but, out of deference to our fellow colonys, we had it modified to its current areas.....

[EvolvedLupine]

We are rather perplexed by the agitation of New Prussia and New Cobh over this matter, at its northrnmost extent, DeLaWarr's claims sitll give both colonys ample axis' for expansion into the Northern and Western lands

[Odin]

To DelaWarr, Ample space for New Cobh? I'm sure you jest! A tiny pin prick of land to squeeze through into the interior? Any Encroachment past the area I have suggested, will be taken very seriously by New Prussia, and we will need to decide our course of action. Delawarr seems to want to dominate half of the coastline of the Eastern Coast, New Prussia views these "extensive claims" as too much.

[cow defender]

A new fort will be built on (CUBA) directly opposite the Bukkaner's territory as well as further encroachment of the mainland, mainly by diplomatic ties (especially in-marrying with natives). This trend will continue for the next century at least

[Sgt Detritus]

A new fort will be built on (CUBA) directly opposite the Bukkaner's territory as well as further encroachment of the mainland, mainly by diplomatic ties (especially in-marrying with natives). This trend will continue for the next century at least

Are the Bukkaneers still pirates or is it just a name for show??

[Sgt Detritus]

To clear things up, it is 1560. Every week, we add ten years. you may expand a little after a week, so, no day by day expansion. So, for example, New Prussia, since it has expanded today, next week, it'll be able to expand a little more. oh, and


Most if not all of my territorial will take place in the islands to the east of Nieuw Holland which occur on the South America map but thanks for the help

[Red Dawn]

The Republic of Cydonia expands it's colonies in Florida and the Bahamas and builds a fort on the north coast of Cuba (called Khûba in Cydonîan :D) and claims the area's marked on the map.

Population is now about 2500.

[EvolvedLupine]

To DelaWarr, Ample space for New Cobh? I'm sure you jest! A tiny pin prick of land to squeeze through into the interior? Any Encroachment past the area I have suggested, will be taken very seriously by New Prussia, and we will need to decide our course of action. Delawarr seems to want to dominate half of the coastline of the Eastern Coast, New Prussia views these "extensive claims" as too much.


To reinterate: THOSE AREAS WERE GRATNED TO US BY COLONIAL CHARTER BY THE GRACE OF THE ALLMIGHTY.
We will not drop our claim to them.

[EvolvedLupine]

Also, as said before, New Cobh has ample room for expansion, they can dominate the Hudson Valley if they want....
That being said, we are willing to shave some land off of the northeastern part of our claim, if the other colonys give us right to claim more land in the Caroline area......

[EvolvedLupine]

Our cartographers, in conjunction with our diplomats and the DeLaWarr Colonial Government have drwan up to following proposal to be submitted to New Prussia........we wish to know if it aceeptable to them:

[demonkangaroo]

Mei Guo demands to know the details of these naval guns. We also wish to know the reason behind this naval expansion, New Edinburgh has no threat except for Indians who are too far inland for ships to make a difference.
Medium sized falconets. The NST wish to control as many waterways as posible. For example, we have a sister colony in South America, on the Horn. These ships will help combat pirates in the area. Plus, a good navy, coupled with a good army can get what we want, when we want.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo submits a map of the forts dotted along the river for our plans in plotting a safe route from the west coast to the east coast. We will only build the forts with the assisstance of either Fedora or Nova Hellas. It shall be a joint project with the ownership of the forts between the ones who wish to join us.

This is only a proposal, the construction has yet to begin

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[sphinxeguy]

Alarmed at the encroaching settlements on either side of it, Portugal has evacuated the colony of Sao Diogo. They have been relocated to an island south of Cuba, which has kept the name Sao Diogo.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo requests a response from anyone who wishes to join on the construction of the forts along the Mississipi river.

[Communist Wizard]

As a mod, I really cannot allow the whole Delaware thing to happen. Claim small, or else. And each territory will have hostile natives if it expands or asserts control.
DK, if you don't agree to this, PM me.
Nova Hellas sails up the Hellas river in search of places and the origin of the river. The expeditions consists of 20 men.
Also, the whole interior of North America is unknown in 1560. While the project seems nice, it will take years to complete. Referring to the whole fort thing.

[Odin]

Our cartographers, in conjunction with our diplomats and the DeLaWarr Colonial Government have drwan up to following proposal to be submitted to New Prussia........we wish to know if it aceeptable to them:

While it does not meet my wishes 100% New Prussia thinks this is a good compromise

[Bishop]

Also, the whole interior of North America is unknown in 1560. While the project seems nice, it will take years to complete. Referring to the whole fort thing.

OOC: Yeah, but the project is based along the Mississipi river, it will be very difficult to map out the lands, but much easier to map out where rivers are going. If we were to lead a expedition along the rivers then we could be able to map it out in several years and build some forts by next week, or 10 years in this game. Well, you're the mod so can you tell me whether or not myplan is feasible within the time I suggested or more. I'll go to other plans if it isn't feasible.

[Odin]

Explorers return from a survey to the north and west, mapping the lands in front of the colony. The Governor sends of claims to be approved by the king.
The King of Prussia Approves the Claims of New Prussia, and sends more resources to help, considering how competitive the New World seems to be, more colonists and soldiers will be arriving shortly

While the Governor knows it will be a difficult task and will take time, he is sure he came make it a prosperous colony for Prussia

OOC: Happy to discuss my new claims.

[Odin]

As a mod, I really cannot allow the whole Delaware thing to happen. Claim small, or else. And each territory will have hostile natives if it expands or asserts control.
DK, if you don't agree to this, PM me.
Nova Hellas sails up the Hellas river in search of places and the origin of the river. The expeditions consists of 20 men.
Also, the whole interior of North America is unknown in 1560. While the project seems nice, it will take years to complete. Referring to the whole fort thing.

Well not completely unknown, a number of refugees managed to start a colony there, lol :D

[demonkangaroo]

New Prussia, Del. calm down. I'm sure we can settle this in a peacful, civil(ish) manner. Let's be calm here, eh? Now shake hands, and make a boundry.

[EvolvedLupine]

OOC: Uh, he allready agreed to my proposal.

[cow defender]

[B]To the nation offering escort: How much of a "Tribute" do you want?

less than it'd cost to lose ships. there are many unsavories in this part of the world, matey, and we'll help keep it clean, of course with a little support.

Are the Bukkaneers still pirates or is it just a name for show??

That is up for debate actually, in the courts of Europe many criticize them Bukkaners as pirates, although seldom to their face. The first king of the Bukkanners made his wealth and reputation as a privateer and then later an out and out pirate, recently however a coup was staged by a more mercantile group. Regardless of this, the kingdom welcomes any and all inhabitants regardless of past reputations*

*many citizens are indeed engage in psuedo-piratical activities but there is no institutionalization of the national pastime.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo has decided to abandon their plans for a fort.

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[Odin]

The Republic of Cydonia expands it's colonies in Florida and the Bahamas and builds a fort on the north coast of Cuba (called Khûba in Cydonîan :D) and claims the area's marked on the map.

Population is now about 2500.

If we're playing by weekly turns, you've expanded twice in one week.

[HUCK]

Name: Cacti Confederation, used to be Calor
Year founded: 1546- independance 1552
Population: 1,000
Founding Country: Spain
Location: Southwest
Ethnicity: 25% Spanish, 5% English, 70% Natives

[TheMann]

Am I too late to enter this? If so, disregard the post, and sorry.

If not, I'm gonna go for it......

Name: Yucatansi

Year Founded: 1558
Founding Country/Company: Great Britain and the Irish Empire Company
Location: Yucatan Peninsula
Major Colonists Ethnicity: 55% Irish, 25% English, 13% Black African, 7% Native American
Population: 1,300

[TheMann]

The Republic of Yucatansi is seeking a peace and free trade treaty with the Republic's neighbors in the Gulf of Mexico, most notably with the Cydonia Republic and Sao Diogo.

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia is posting its preliminary claim. It will work out further negotiations with Prussia and New Edinburgh.

[Odin]

New Prussia has no issues with Novaya Russias claim

OOC: Why are the player colors so skewed, compared to the original pictures?

[Red Dawn]

If we're playing by weekly turns, you've expanded twice in one week.

Oops I didn't know that :o I'll keep it in mind ;)

[Red Dawn]

The Republic of Yucatansi is seeking a peace and free trade treaty with the Republic's neighbors in the Gulf of Mexico, most notably with the Cydonia Republic and Sao Diogo.

The Republic of Cydonîa is glad to accept the Yucatansinese (:D) proposal. It hereby enters the CFTI (might be a nice name for "Carribbean Free Trade Initiative").

[Sgt Detritus]

Nieuw Holland suggests some kind of agreement between itself, Cydonia and Sao Diogo to counter the problem of the pirates of Bukkaneer

[Red Dawn]

The Republic of Cydonîa proposes the idea of expanding the CFTI into CFTDI (Caribbean Free Trade and Defence Initiative). Member nations of the CFTDI will have a free trade market and will help other members in case of war.
The Republic of Cydonîa invites Nieuw Holland and Sao Diogo, but only if the Republic of Yucatansi (other member of CFTI) accepts the proposal.

And now we'll wait for the Rep. of Yucatansi to accept the proposal :D

EDIT: In concordia vis! (=in unity is strength) <= Might be a nice slogan

[Sgt Detritus]

The Republic of Cydonîa invites Nieuw Holland and Sao Diogo, but only if the Republic of Yucatansi (other member of CFTI) accepts the proposal.

And now we'll wait for the Rep. of Yucatansi to accept the proposal :D

EDIT: In concordia vis! (=in unity is strength) <= Might be a nice slogan

In principial Nieuw Holland is receptive to this idea with one minor proviso. Having a slogan in Latin smacks somewhat of Papism which is something the god-fearing Calvinist people of Nieuw Holland would never accept. Would be possible for Nieuw Holland to use the Dutch translation of the phrase instead??

In Eenhild Is Stirke

OOC, I hope I got the Dutch translation right. If not then blame Babelfish not me

[Red Dawn]

In principial Nieuw Holland is receptive to this idea with one minor proviso. Having a slogan in Latin smacks somewhat of Papism which is something the god-fearing Calvinist people of Nieuw Holland would never accept. Would be possible for Nieuw Holland to use the Dutch translation of the phrase instead??

In Eenhild Is Stirke

OOC, I hope I got the Dutch translation right. If not then blame Babelfish not me

The Republic of Cydonîa understands Nieuw Hollands objective (it should be "In Eenheid is Kracht") but as the various countries speak different languages it declines Nieuw Hollands idea of making the slogan in Dutch. Instead, the slogan could be made in English. Therefore: IN UNITY IS STRENGTH.

[EvolvedLupine]

DeLaWarr would like to asisst the other colonys in combating piracy.

[Bishop]

Mei Guo wishes to establish diplomatic relations with Cacti Confederation.

We also request a treaty ensuring free flow of ships and trade along the west coast. The treaty we suggested includes the Confederation helping whenever possible all of our shipwrecked sailors in your area. Agreement to this treaty will grant your colony the same benefits as us.

Mei Guo has announced that they have decided to send a naval ship to Fort San Fan Tzu(OOC:In present-day San Francisco) along with increasing the men from 20 to 40.

[m2thet5678]

OOC: When do we start getting more shipments of people? And when do we get more population growth at the colony? The game has being going on for quite a few years, and Novaya Russia is sitting on huge fishing grounds.

[cow defender]

Nieuw Holland suggests some kind of agreement between itself, Cydonia and Sao Diogo to counter the problem of the pirates of Bukkaneer

The Bukkanners take exception to the libelous comments from the New Holland Colony, the Bukkanners were among the first to attempt to combat this "piracy," and attempted to coordinate efforts but due to lack of interest of other nations our attempts have largely been futile. Piracy is frowned upon on the island and all efforts are being taken, and have been taken in the past to clean up these waters. Any show of force, of course, against Bukkanner citizens will be met with extreme resistence; our long fought for freedoms shall not be forfieted in the supposed name of your security! :cool:

[Odin]

1560

It has been Ten Years since the first settlement. Although the first few years were tough the colony has started to prosper. After the first few years, enough land had been cleared for the colony to be self sufficient. And Fishing has become an increasing source of food for the colony, good fishing is found off shore and in the rivers of the locality.

Immigration for the past 10 years are as follows.

1551 300
1552 400
1553 400
1554 600
1555 600
1556 650
1557 680
1558 700
1559 650
1560 720

OOC: I viewed this as a reasonable amount of immigration in the first 10 years as the colony is just starting to develop. I came to this figure estimating the monthly arrival of of say 50 or more colonist on a ship from the old world.

Current Population stands at 7000 People (This factors in the birth rate). Of that There are 650 troops. There are garrisons of 50 troops each at the three outlying forts in the New Prussia Territory. In the North The Dresden Fort/Settlement has come into sporadic contact with people from Novoya Russia, and some exchange of goods has occurred. Settlers have followed in the Soldiers footsteps and occupied the land around the forts.

Theres is at all times two ships of the line from the Prussian Navy in the Konigsberg Harbour to provide support to the colony, these are routed routinely between the old world and the new and are the source of most of our colonists, along with the occasional independent ship of people trying to escape the old world.

Dresden fort in the north, Berlin fort in the interior and the Frankfurt for on the Shore of the Kronstadt River (as named in the Prussian Maps)

Konigsberg was established as the colonies capital. (At OTL Boston location). By 1560 It has a population of 2000. Some hostility has been encountered from the Indians, Initially New Prussia was able to purchase land from the Indians quite cheaply, however in the last few years sporadic raids have occurred on the Outlying forts, and some settlers have taken to forming vigilante groups to target the indians. The New Prussia Governor is trying to put a stop to this as much as possible but as of yet, the policy has not had much effect.

Currently we are trying to determine the Best course of Action in regards to the Indian problem. We have requested more troops from Prussia and hopefully these will arrive soon. Prussia is happy to see some resources start to flow back to it to help pay for its investment. Some gold has been found but not significant amounts, and the wood shipped back to the old world has shown some promise with artisans, along with some of the new plant types found growing in new Prussia.

New Prussia Hopes it's good Relations with Novoya Russia continue and that our mutual understanding continues, apart from this we have only sporadic contact with other eastern colonies, (through other colonies merchant shipping and naval shipping)


Posting this update now as it's most convienent for me, will do one each week if this is indeed to be a 10yrs = 1 week real time game. Happy to change when I post if I have to. Also changed the color of my colony as it was getting a bit hard to distinguish.

[Odin]

Posting the map here as the huge map itself was screwing around with the formating in my previous post.

[demonkangaroo]

New Edinburgh Is happy to announce a baby boom, and now, our poulation is about 1,000. We are also happy to exapand!

[Bishop]

Mei Guo has experienced a population boom of a little above 2% a year not counting immigrants. The immigrants that have come through the years are as follows:

1st-300
2nd-250
3rd-50
4th-0
5th-25
6th-100
7th-200
8th-150
9th-200
10th-175

We had a horrible shipwrecked in the 4th year that slowed down immigration for a while, that's 1450 immigrants through 10 years.

We have a total population of 2700 people now.

We have also decided to claim the territories south of us.

We also decided to increase military presence in San Fan Tzu to help out any shipwrecked sailors by adding another gunboat there, our military presence there is 50 men and 2 gunboats.

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[Red Dawn]

The population of Cydonîa has grown steadily in the past years and now is at about 4500. A new fort has been constructed in Florida and other parts of the country have been expanded.

The Khûba-strait (between Florida and Cuba) is effectively under Cydonîan control.

Further, the republic pronounces it is not agressive against the nation of Bukkaneer, and the CFTDI is a pure defence and trade pact only.

[cow defender]

Further, the republic pronounces it is not agressive against the nation of Bukkaneer, and the CFTDI is a pure defence and trade pact only.

as the premier carribean colony it must be noted that we take exception to the fact that the bukkanners were not even consulted in the formation of the CFTDI nor asked to join

[Red Dawn]

as the premier carribean colony it must be noted that we take exception to the fact that the bukkanners were not even consulted in the formation of the CFTDI nor asked to join

The Republic of Cydonîa wants to make clear that the Bukkaneers shouldn't blaim Cydonîa, but should ask the Republic of Yucatansi, which proposed the CFTDI in the first place.
The Republic of Cydonîa also whishes to make clear that it would approve the Bukkaneer entry to the CFTDI if the Rep of Yucatansi would allow Bukkaneer to enter the CFTDI. Further, the Republic of Cydonîa wishes to improve relations with Bukkaneer.

[Red Dawn]

I'll post a map to make clear how the CFTDI looks like.

Dark blue -> CFTDI member
Light blue -> Membership pending (needs approval)

[m2thet5678]

All right. Since everyone has huge populations now, and mine was only at 1000 for a bit, time for an update!

Immigration figures for the past 10 years:
1551: 200
1552: 300
1553: 450
1554: 100
1555: 400
1556: 700
1557: 650
1558: 700
1559: 400

This means 3900 from immigration. Combined with 1000 starting and 600 births from sitting on the huge Newfoundland Fisheries (death counts have been subtracted) we are at 5500 people.

We are now setting up more and more forts to protect our growing cities. Our greatest city is the one we began the colony with: Novaya Sankt Petersburg. We also have Novaya Arkhangelshk and Novaya Rostov.

We hope our ties with New Prussia and Novaya Moskva to the South continue throughout the years.

Novaya Russia hopes to work with New Prussia in solving the Indian Problem.

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia Expands!
Currently, Nov. Sankt. Petersburg has 3000 people.
Nov. Arkh. and Nov. Ros. each have 1250 guys.

[Odin]

OOC: Can one of the mods please confirm what year we are in? If this is our first or second proper 10yr turn? thx

[EvolvedLupine]

Am I allowed to expand now?

[Odin]

Am I allowed to expand now?

I assume so, seems like everyone is doing their 10 year turn.

[Communist Wizard]

Nova Hellas-
Population 5000 (About the same as all of you there)
We would like to join the CFTDI, as we are also in the area.
Our expansion and claims on the map-
We claim at least the lower Hellas [Rio Grande] basin, and are moving into the area. However, we claim the entirety of the Hellas River Basin, though we are moving only into the lower Hellas at the moment...
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[EvolvedLupine]

OOC: What year is it in the game? My colony was founded in 1642, so is it 1652 now? Once I know that I will post how much my pop. has expanded
IC:
DeLawarr has expanded slightly to the north and in the Tidewater area. We have encountered some resistance from the more warlike tribes, but most of them have more or less accpeted our presence, mostly due to the binding treatys we have singed with them, notable the Delaware's.
To New Cobh: We would like to negotiate about our northernmost claims, we are willing to ceede some of it to you in exchange for a monetarial compensation and trade agreements and possibly alliances.

[EvolvedLupine]

OOC: What happeed to the Californias?

[Communist Wizard]

OOC: It's 1580 for all. Retcon your colony.

[EvolvedLupine]

OOC: It's 1580 for all. Retcon your colony.
Retcon?
WTF does that mean?

[Odin]

OOC: Since I cant change my original post

Immigration

1st Year 300
2nd Year 400
3rd Year 400
4th Year 600
5th Year 600
6th Year 650
7th Year 680
8th Year 700
9th Year 650
10th Year 720

Current Year 1580
Also for some reason my expansion was changed after Delawarrs update. Any reason. As I will change it back otherwise.

Also if players havent updated their claims for this turn by next Sunday I think we should consider them inactive.

[EvolvedLupine]

Since I cant change my original post

Immigration

1st Year 300
2nd Year 400
3rd Year 400
4th Year 600
5th Year 600
6th Year 650
7th Year 680
8th Year 700
9th Year 650
10th Year 720

Current Year 1580
Also for some reason my expansion was changed after Delawarrs update. Any reason. As I will change it back otherwise.
I just used CW's map and assumed it was recent, I leave keeping track of stuff like that up to other people.

[Communist Wizard]

Retcon?
WTF does that mean?
Retcon is usually used to mean 'change the details and facts within a story to match whatever new stuff you put up'. Basically, put a different date for the colony.

[Odin]

I just used CW's map and assumed it was recent, I leave keeping track of stuff like that up to other people.

OOC: No probs just seems like a bit of my expansion was cut off between the two, maybe it's a format error Idk, but I will update it later to show my original expansion (basically fill in the lower right corner near the coast of my claim.

[Odin]

New Prussia Announces its explorers are to conduct a major survey of the interior of the American continent. Scheduled to begin in 1585 (if the in game year is 1580)And estimated to take at least 12 to 18 months. New Prussia explorers will be exploring the Great Lakes region and try to establish a Land route to the Kingdom of Fedora. The Explorers will also map and document some parts to the north and south.

New Prussia welcomes cooperation with other eastern coast colonies to establish what lies inland and what we can expect

OOC: Planning to discover the Niagra Falls and determine resources with this move, and learn a bit more to add into the game so to speak. I don't mind if this becomes a multi colony exploration team. I am not planing on claiming any territory yet with this move, just making my later claims more informed when I establish them.

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia will cooperate with New Prussia's expedition.
Updated Map:
Dang, some of it got cut off. Can someone please remake this map properly? Sorry for the inconvenience.
OOC: Did the people in Proletaria freeze to death? Did the founder?

[EvolvedLupine]

New Prussia Announces its explorers are to conduct a major survey of the interior of the American continent. Scheduled to begin in 1585 (if the in game year is 1580)And estimated to take at least 12 to 18 months. New Prussia explorers will be exploring the Great Lakes region and try to establish a Land route to the Kingdom of Fedora. The Explorers will also map and document some parts to the north and south.

New Prussia welcomes cooperation with other eastern coast colonies to establish what lies inland and what we can expect


DeLaWarr would be happy to asisst New Prussia on this endeavour.
OOC: The Ocean seems to get darker and darker every time someone posts the map.....also, did the pacific coast get ISOT'ed or somthing?;):D:p

[EvolvedLupine]

Retconed data for my colony:
Name:DeLaWarr
Year Founded:1570
Population: ~2,000
Country, or Business who founded it: Welsh Republic
Location: OTL Delmarva Peninsula
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: ~60% White European(Welsh/English Majority with French/Sweede/Dutch minority) ~30% Native American, ~10% African American.

[Odin]

OOC: Must be some kind of png formatting issue or something? Since we have probably change the file and save it about 30-40 times now. Have had to change my colonies colors once already. Perhaps eventually we need to start with a fresh map and color it in with our current claims idk.

OOC: Perhaps with the exploration teams we can have liasons officers and have two or three exploration teams? Ie we each report our findings to each other, or we have one huge team which explores the whole area from the hudson bay to the mississipi area around fedora? or maybe south? Although this would take more than 18months in game timeI expect.

[EvolvedLupine]

Immigration data for DeLaWarr for years 1571-1580(population of DeLaWarr in 1570 was ~1,000)
1571: 200
1572:80
1573: 320
1574: 25(low numbers due to difficulites in Wales itself)
1575: 90
1576: 80
1577: 100
1578: 0 (many hurricanes in Atlantic, sank the one ship with colonists)
1579: 105
1580: 0(similar reasons to 1678)
Current(1580) Population of DeLaWarr is at ~2,000.

[Odin]

OOC: Isn't the current year 1580? We're not in the 1680's?

[EvolvedLupine]

OOC: I dont know that much about early american history,but I think one of many Anglo/French wars is coming up at this point in OTL, will we have anything like that here?
Although there are not any colonys with ties to the French yet......

[EvolvedLupine]

OOC: Isn't the current year 1580? We're not in the 1680's?
Yeah, my bad, hold on...:o:o:o:o

[Odin]

OOC: NP, if anyone thinks my population estimate is too much I can downsize it, As I seem to have the most people in a colony atm. (7000)

[Odin]

Corrected my missing area, also increased the brightness of the image by 50% hopefully that helps. fixed the cut off area in the previous map, if this map is missing everything please add it.

[Sgt Detritus]

I'll post a map to make clear how the CFTDI looks like.

Dark blue -> CFTDI member
Light blue -> Membership pending (needs approval)

On reflection I'd have no overwhelming objection to Bukkaneer becoming a member. You do have to admit the name is unfortunate though. It's like being a bank manager and finding the shop next door is owened by a company called Bank Robbers 'R' Us.

The colonist population of Nieuw Holland now totals 2100. This figure takes into account new arrivals plus flucuations due to births and deaths



OOC Are events in Europe following the same path here as they did OTL?? I only aske cos in 1580 Spain took control of Portugal which may lead to an influx of refugees. Also in 1588 the United Provinces declared independence from Spain

[cow defender]

The exact number of colonists cannot be ascertained, as a large segment of Bukkanner society lives their lives on the seas. The modest territorial gains reflect this. Only areas direclty in Bukkanner control have been highlighted; all of (HISPANIOLA) is allied to the Bukkanner king remain cordial relations with the natives who supply the Bukkanners with manual labor on the land as well as at sea. Privateering is still a pastime of the Bukkanners, though raiding the European colonies is now taboo, many young men and those who are down on their luck have taken to raiding many of the Native villages on the coastline while trade is slow. Rumors fly in the bars and coffee houses of a land of gold somewhere to the south. Many treasure maps circulate and the adventuring begins.

[Ind89]

Vancouver Census, 1580

Total population: 2, 200
Ethnic Breakdown: 70% English, 25% French, 5% Indian

Vancouver has annexed the area we claimed extending from the southern end of Vancouver Island to the Providence ( OOC:Columbia)
River. We have also extended our claims south of the Providence River.

[Bishop]

We have also extended our claims south of the Providence River. [/B]

Mei Guo objects to these claims, these claims will allow Vancouver to block our waterways easily, we demand that it be co-administered.

[OrangeNakor]

Name:New Franconia
Year Founded: 1587
Population: 1042 (200 soldiers)
Country, or Business who founded it: Bavaria
Location: Coasts of OTL Great Lakes
The Major Ethnicity of the Colonists: 80% White European (Germanic), 10% Amerindian, 10% African (free)

[OrangeNakor]

sorry for double postfile:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Hayden/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/78

[OrangeNakor]

how do you post pictures? :confused::confused:

[Odin]

You can't link items on your pc. When you put in a post click the manage attachments tab and find the file then upload it.

OOC: I do think it is a bit unrealistic having too many colonies in the interior, having one in there is bad enough, in the 1580's the interior of the Continent is unknown. My colony along with others is sending an expedition to explore the interior. It's up to the mod's in the game. But a colony on the coast somewhere is more realistic.

[Odin]

Mei Guo objects to these claims, these claims will allow Vancouver to block our waterways easily, we demand that it be co-administered.

New Prussia thinks if this is a major issue perhaps this co-administration idea is good, or perhaps one of you can expand south and the other north?

[cow defender]

New Prussia thinks if this is a major issue perhaps this co-administration idea is good, or perhaps one of you can expand south and the other north?

In the barbecue bars of the Bukkanner nation men and women place bets on many things, including whether or not the two colonies will war, who the victor will be, even on the length of time and men killed.

[Ind89]

Mei Guo objects to these claims, these claims will allow Vancouver to block our waterways easily, we demand that it be co-administered.

Vancouver did not mean to offend you; we ask that you present a map of what areas you want to be co-administered. However, we would like to keep some of the mainland under our control.

[Bishop]

New Prussia thinks if this is a major issue perhaps this co-administration idea is good, or perhaps one of you can expand south and the other north?

To our north, there are mainly mountains, it is very difficult for us to establish a link to the ocean there without expending large amounts of resources.

However, if Vancouver is willing to sign a treaty that will have Vancouver promise us access through the waterways, we will drop will objections.

[EvolvedLupine]

OOC: IS Rocano still playing?
I asked his colony a question yesterday..

[Odin]

OOC: He's playing new Cobh isn't he?

edit: Sent you a pm about this.

[Bishop]

Vancouver did not mean to offend you; we ask that you present a map of what areas you want to be co-administered. However, we would like to keep some of the mainland under our control.

We wish to co-administer areas along the river and water to secure our waterways and economic health.

40581

[m2thet5678]

OOC: Oh yeah, when I'm done with homework, I'll remake the map for all of us using Paint.Net
The recent maps forgot Novaya Russia's expansion. Ah well. That's OK. I'll put it up.

[e350tb]

British Texas extends down the coast both ways an inland a bit.

[OrangeNakor]

New Bavaria40585

[OrangeNakor]

New Bavaria has three forts: Fort Windingburg (The Windy City), Fort Knudel (located OTOL detroit), Fort Kopf
Also New Bavaria Would like to enter relations with Novaya Russia, New Edinburgh, the Kingdom of Fedora and, our fellow Germans, New Prussia!
The Govener's sloop has been dispatched.

So long and thanks for all the fish!

[m2thet5678]

OOC: Dang, my short term memory won't let me transfer everybody and make an updated map. So here is the thing. I will start on the light map aned make what I can. Its up to you guys to do the rest. Got it? I will handle text.

[Ind89]

We wish to co-administer areas along the river and water to secure our waterways and economic health.



The government of Vancouver has approved the request.

[Odin]

I updated the map with my three forts. Perhaps the best thing to do is to have one person post an updated map regularly and have people send their claims to them idk.

Also I dont think anymore interior "colonys" should be allowed, since they are highly unrealistic in the 1580's ie no outside support.

[Red Dawn]

Added Cydonîa to the map :cool:

[Sgt Detritus]

Privateering is still a pastime of the Bukkanners, though raiding the European colonies is now taboo, many young men and those who are down on their luck have taken to raiding many of the Native villages on the coastline while trade is slow.

There's a guy in my family tree at the time of the English Civil War who was a privateer. He served with the Royalist fleet in exile and prayed on Parliamentarian shipping. After the Restoration of Charless this guy joined the Royal Navy and was eventual knighted for service against the Dutch in 1666 or so (which I think was the Third Anglo-Dutch War)

[Sgt Detritus]

After the Restoration of Charless this guy joined the Royal Navy and was eventual knighted for service against the Dutch in 1666 or so (which I think was the Third Anglo-Dutch War)

My mistake, it was the Second not Third Anglo-Dutch War

[cow defender]

My mistake, it was the Second not Third Anglo-Dutch War

pretty sick. most of my ancestors
were probably as common as dirt

[OrangeNakor]

is new franconia invalid then?

[cow defender]

also, please note, much of the inland is closely tied to the bukkaners politically and economically, and have many bukkaners present who live under bukkaner law, which is meeted out by roving Shirereefs, though the land is legally under control of the local chiefs.

[Sgt Detritus]

pretty sick. most of my ancestors
were probably as common as dirt

That guy only appears in my family tree by marriage. Most of the other people were farm labourers or fishermen

[cow defender]

That guy only appears in my family tree by marriage. Most of the other people were farm labourers or fishermen

the closest i've got to anything like this is that i have a third cousin (who i've never met) playing baseball for oakland

[OrangeNakor]

New Bavaria Would like to enter relations with Novaya Russia, New Edinburgh, the Kingdom of Fedora and, our fellow Germans, New Prussia!
The Govener's sloop has been dispatched.

[Odin]

New Prussia is happy to open relations with New Bavaria

OOC: Is anyone preventing God modding here? Since some of the stuff in this thread is farcical considering it's 1580.

[Communist Wizard]

New Prussia is happy to open relations with New Bavaria

OOC: Is anyone preventing God modding here? Since some of the stuff in this thread is farcical considering it's 1580.
OOC: I, uh, think that me and kangaroo will stop any god-modding if it is complained or obviously seen. Besides, the game is too slow right now...

[m2thet5678]

OOC: Dang, another game is going to die on the vine? Oh man.

I was only not posting because other people weren't.

Oh yeah, can I also take control of Georgia since Locke isn't around?

[Bishop]

Mei Guo has decided to begin a expedition to plot the interior more.

[Odin]

This game would be more interesting if we weren't restricted to a turn a week, getting quite boring. And I for one think god moddings going on. But thats just me I suppose.

[Sgt Detritus]

Nieuw Holland feels that the members of the CFTDI should actually be doing some trading so if anyone is in the market for sugar and slaves we're open for business

OOC To spice things up a bit maybe demonkangaroo could have the Indians do something than having them lie down and let the colonists run all over them. Just a suggestion and no offence intended to DK

[OrangeNakor]

New Bavaria would like to create trade with New Prussia and New Edinburgh

[Odin]

Nieuw Holland feels that the members of the CFTDI should actually be doing some trading so if anyone is in the market for sugar and slaves we're open for business

OOC To spice things up a bit maybe demonkangaroo could have the Indians do something than having them lie down and let the colonists run all over them. Just a suggestion and no offence intended to DK

I agree, and no offence to DK, it would sought out some of the more ridiculous claims here as well.

[Odin]

New Bavaria would like to create trade with New Prussia and New Edinburgh

I cant really establish trade with you if I don't know about your area, I was sending an expedition into the interior to explore, maybe i'll discover you then.

Ie, I still think these colonies in the interior of the usa are unrealistic, especially if you dont have any coastal land, simply aint gonna happen.

[Communist Wizard]

As an admin, I feel like I should be setting the trend for the others and not god-modding. Any objection with my colony?

[Odin]

Well my objection is the two colonys in the interior, ie Fendora and New Bavaria. If you guys say they are ok, well so be it, but I for one think they arent realistic for the 1580's. Fendora might survive if its main colony was closer to it's base on the coast, but at the moment its main colony is over 1000 miles away from the coastal base.

[cow defender]

kill the pig kill the pig kill the pig kill the pig!

[m2thet5678]

Novaya Russia will establish diplomatic relations with New Bavaria.

OOC: How much longer until expansion round #2? I say we speed things up to one expansion every 3 days.

[Sgt Detritus]

As an admin, I feel like I should be setting the trend for the others and not god-modding. Any objection with my colony?

Seems reasonably placed to me

[Red Dawn]

Can somebody repost the map with ALL nations on it this time? On the last map, a lot of nations were missing :cool:

[Locke]

Georgia is expanding westwards, following the Savannah River.

[HUCK]

ooc: I think this is how you make claims. if so here is the Cacti Confederation.

[EvolvedLupine]

As DeLaWarr rings in the year of 1590,AD, we are ahppy to announce that our population has doubled to 4,000 colonists!
Immigration data for DeLaWarr for years 1580-1589(DeLaWarr population in 1580 was~2,000)
1580: 300
1581: 150
1582: 400
1583: 200
1584: 80
1585: 125
1586: 100
1587: 25
1588: 75
1589: 25
(Total Immigration is 1,480 persons for the perriod)
total birth rate for the perriod is 520)
Birth rate data for DeLaWarr for the years 1580-1589:
1580: 37
1581: 67
1582: 34
1583: 33
1584: 67
1585: 48
1586: 39
1587: 54
1588: 79
1589: 62
_______________________________
DeLaWarr is also happy to announce that we have expanded in all directions(allthough we are encountering much more Native resistance than we had expected)

[Sgt Detritus]

That little bit of South America claimed by Bukkaneer has already been claimed by someone in the South America thread

[Rocano]

New Cobh is sending Traders North to establish Influence North East of our Territory.

[cow defender]

That little bit of South America claimed by Bukkaneer has already been claimed by someone in the South America thread

so. this is the NORTH america thread.

and if they have a problem with that

they can bring it to the bukkanner king

who will say:

"So, do something about it."

[Bishop]

Mei Guo announces that we have a population of 6000 now.

Our base of San Fan Tzu has been converted to a small town of 200 when a immigration ship was off course and decided to settle their.

[Communist Wizard]

so. this is the NORTH america thread.

and if they have a problem with that

they can bring it to the bukkanner king

who will say:

"So, do something about it."
Hmm, I doubt you want to that right now as I'm double your size.

[cow defender]

Hmm, I doubt you want to that right now as I'm double your size.



its alright i'm all navy, size doesn't matter its the way you use it

[Mack of Raven]

We, of the Colony Game: South America, Respect your map, can you than respect our map.

[Red Dawn]

Nieuw Holland feels that the members of the CFTDI should actually be doing some trading so if anyone is in the market for sugar and slaves we're open for business

The Republic of Cydonîa starts trading. Our main export products are spices (from Khûba), slaves and coconuts.

By the way, does Nova Hellas stills wish to join CFTDI?

[Communist Wizard]

The Republic of Cydonîa starts trading. Our main export products are spices (from Khûba), slaves and coconuts.

By the way, does Nova Hellas stills wish to join CFTDI?
Yes. We would love to join it...

[cow defender]

well see here's the thing, i joined the "make your own colony(NORTH america)" specifically; not the other thread, so while i do respect your south america and all, it is a DIFFERENT thread, a different map and a different game.

[Sgt Detritus]

well see here's the thing, i joined the "make your own colony(NORTH america)" specifically; not the other thread, so while i do respect your south america and all, it is a DIFFERENT thread, a different map and a different game.

I was under the impression that the two threads were taking place in the same world

[Red Dawn]

I was under the impression that the two threads were taking place in the same world

Which is - in fact - the case, read the first post.

[Communist Wizard]

well see here's the thing, i joined the "make your own colony(NORTH america)" specifically; not the other thread, so while i do respect your south america and all, it is a DIFFERENT thread, a different map and a different game.
Nope, my friend, you thought wrong. The threads are connected.

[Sgt Detritus]

Nope, my friend, you thought wrong. The threads are connected.

One other thing, are events in Europe taking the same path as they did OTL?? cos that could effect events here

[Codae]

I've been making up Portuguese kings (and a Duke of Savoy), if you look over in the S.A. thread. Nobody's objected.

...But then again, nobody's really responded to them.

[Codae]

I'm taking the colony of Sao Diogo. I'm saying it has about 2000 people now.

[m2thet5678]

Hey, can I have the colony of Proletaria? I asked for it a bit ago.