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Sgt Detritus
November 14th, 2007, 12:39 PM
What if Charles VII and his court took no notice of Joan of Arc??

Grey Wolf
November 14th, 2007, 12:54 PM
What if Charles VII and his court took no notice of Joan of Arc??

Then he remains the King of Bourges, sees Bedford establish English rule in the North, and Charles' successors can hope for nothing more than forming a Southern kingdom, though civil war is more likely with other magnates "doing a Burgundy"

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Grey Wolf

Sgt Detritus
November 14th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Then he remains the King of Bourges, sees Bedford establish English rule in the North, and Charles' successors can hope for nothing more than forming a Southern kingdom, though civil war is more likely with other magnates "doing a Burgundy"

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Grey Wolf

Sounds like fun

Promethean
November 14th, 2007, 01:53 PM
well england has a strong position and name in europe might give it a beter chance in the near future. ( i mean the colonies etcetra)

yes france wouldnt be a power just a big duchy

CJNyfalt
November 14th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Don't underestimate the Spider King.
While Charles would remain just king in the south, Louis XI might succeed in gaining the north back. Especially if the War of the Roses starts.

Promethean
November 14th, 2007, 07:34 PM
with a bad start ad they hadnt got a good position in otl either.
but i understand that england can t keep these terretories while the french are attacking and attacking

snerfuplz
November 14th, 2007, 11:51 PM
Unless some sort of lasting peace held than the French would eventually take back their land. Of course this would poision Anglo-French relations longer than in OTL.