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Don_Giorgio
November 4th, 2007, 07:56 AM
In 1314 Pope Clement V died in Avignon... The Papal chair remained vacant for 2 years because the Conclave was deadlocked between the Italian and French factions...
After an intervention of King Philippe V in 1316 the Conclave dully elected the Vice-Dean of the College of Cardinals Cardinal-Bishop of Porto Jacques d' Euse as Pope John XXII per compromisium (the last Pope being elected by a comittee of Cardinals) only when he vowed before them to return the Papacy to Rome...
However after his coronation in Lyon he broke his vow and set up in Avignon...
WI he had returned to Rome??? How would Philippe V reacts to that???

Don_Giorgio
November 5th, 2007, 06:01 AM
Would Philippe V let the Pope leave France? He wasnt needing him anymore after all... his father Philippe IV had grasped the Templars treasury...

seraphim74
November 5th, 2007, 06:28 AM
A pope under control was very useful for a medieval monarch. No king would have give him up so easily. Who controlled the pope, controlled (in some degree) the Church, and that was very strong card in European politics of that time.

Don_Giorgio
November 5th, 2007, 10:01 AM
If the Pope organised his "kidnapping" and moves back to Rome? He could declare the King of France heretic for holding him a prisoner and put France under interdict... It might have lead to an early English invasion...