PDA

View Full Version : WI not as much resistance to using nuclear power


Bishop
September 8th, 2007, 08:51 PM
The public seemed to be pretty much against nuclear energy throughout the 20th century(I never understood it because I'm pretty much pro-nuclear)

What if there wasn't as much resistance to using nuclear power plants to supply our energy by the public?

Max Sinister
September 8th, 2007, 08:54 PM
Maybe if Japan capitulates before the Americans use the bomb?

Riain
September 8th, 2007, 09:21 PM
Nuclear technology/power is as much a political football of the elite as it is of the masses. People are unhappy with nuke power because of the safety aspects with operation and waste disposal. If waste disposal/storage was done differently from the beggining and Three Mile Island was avoided people wouldn't be quite so afraid. Also the availablity of alternatives like coal colour the view of people since they don't have the same safety and waste issues; why risk a meltdown and have a poison dump when you have coal and therefore can aviod it?

Johnrankins
September 8th, 2007, 09:21 PM
Come up with a pebble bed nuclear reactor faster and actually use some PR to push it. They don't even melt down not talking cause nuclear explosions (which other nuclear reactors don't do either).

Johnrankins
September 8th, 2007, 09:24 PM
Nuclear technology/power is as much a political football of the elite as it is of the masses. People are unhappy with nuke power because of the safety aspects with operation and waste disposal. If waste disposal/storage was done differently from the beggining and Three Mile Island was avoided people wouldn't be quite so afraid. Also the availablity of alternatives like coal colour the view of people since they don't have the same safety and waste issues; why risk a meltdown and have a poison dump when you have coal and therefore can aviod it?

Nothing happened at Three Mile Island except a media panic. No one was actually hurt not talking about killed. Waste disposal is easy, dig a very deep hole (maybe a quarter mile or so down) in a dry area, dump in and plug up with concrete. End of problem.

Riain
September 8th, 2007, 09:32 PM
Will we put a reactor in your street, and the hole in your backyard? Whatever happened at 3MI there hasn't been a power reactor built in the US since.

Mike Stearns
September 8th, 2007, 09:50 PM
Nothing happened at Three Mile Island except a media panic. No one was actually hurt not talking about killed. Waste disposal is easy, dig a very deep hole (maybe a quarter mile or so down) in a dry area, dump in and plug up with concrete. End of problem.

What sealed the deal for a lot of people as far as nuclear power is concerned wasn't 3MI, but Chernobyl. If Chernobyl never happened or was handled differently, then maybe people would view nuclear energy as a reliable resource.

Riain
September 8th, 2007, 09:59 PM
Wasn't there a bunch of small scale accidents around the world; storage leaks and the like, long before 3MI and Chernobyl? Add a local scare to the big 2 and you have a distrust of nuke power.

Anaxagoras
September 8th, 2007, 10:00 PM
If the whole of the developed world had adopted the same attitude towards nuclear power as the French, climate change wouldn't be an issue.

Johnrankins
September 8th, 2007, 10:04 PM
Will we put a reactor in your street, and the hole in your backyard? Whatever happened at 3MI there hasn't been a power reactor built in the US since.

I wouldn't care, I might be able to afford a house as their prices would go down in the area and good jobs would go up as power plants pay well.

Mike Stearns
September 8th, 2007, 10:04 PM
If the whole of the developed world had adopted the same attitude towards nuclear power as the French, climate change wouldn't be an issue.

From what I understand, the French seem to have complete and total trust in atomic energy. I read somewhere that something like 80% of their power comed from nuclear reactors.

Johnrankins
September 8th, 2007, 10:07 PM
What sealed the deal for a lot of people as far as nuclear power is concerned wasn't 3MI, but Chernobyl. If Chernobyl never happened or was handled differently, then maybe people would view nuclear energy as a reliable resource.

Chernobyl is another thing. However, I wouldn't trust the Russians with anything more complex then a can opener. :D Seriously, the Russians are noted for their sloppiness and lack of safety precautions.

Max Sinister
September 8th, 2007, 10:14 PM
It is true that the accident of Chernobyl happened because the operators made a test, someone made a (non-lethal) mistake, and to correct it to do the test as planned, they switched off all their own safety precautions.

Johnrankins
September 8th, 2007, 10:20 PM
It is true that the accident of Chernobyl happened because the operators made a test, someone made a (non-lethal) mistake, and to correct it to do the test as planned, they switched off all their own safety precautions.

Exactly, there are very few places outside Russia where they are THAT careless over safety matters.

Bishop
September 8th, 2007, 10:44 PM
If the whole of the developed world had adopted the same attitude towards nuclear power as the French, climate change wouldn't be an issue.

I totally agree, well we still would have climate change, but on a smaller scale. Anyway, if we used it alot then it would've gotten better a whole lot faster and we might be using much more efficient nuclear energy source since it'll developed faster.

Atreus
September 8th, 2007, 11:09 PM
What sealed the deal for a lot of people as far as nuclear power is concerned wasn't 3MI, but Chernobyl. If Chernobyl never happened or was handled differently, then maybe people would view nuclear energy as a reliable resource.

I agree that Chernobyl killed nuclear power. But it really happened because some technicians were experimenting, I believe. It was also handled horribly. So have the truth come sooner, and the officials act in a somewhat competent fashion, and the problem is solved.

Anaxagoras
September 8th, 2007, 11:16 PM
From what I understand, the French seem to have complete and total trust in atomic energy. I read somewhere that something like 80% of their power comed from nuclear reactors.

Not only that, but they reprocess and reuse their spent nuclear fuel instead of trying to store it underground like we do. While technically difficult, the French are getting better and better at this and it has the potential to completely reshape the debate about nuclear "waste".

Hnau
September 9th, 2007, 05:15 AM
What do you think the numbers/statistics would be if no nuclear accidents on the scale of 3MI or Chernobyl?

userid
September 9th, 2007, 06:01 AM
we have the tech now to get rid of 80% of all waste from the power plants. plasma torch tech will reduce contaminated materials down and refining the used fuel.

NapoleonXIV
September 9th, 2007, 06:32 AM
What do you think the numbers/statistics would be if no nuclear accidents on the scale of 3MI or Chernobyl?

Make no difference. Antinuke in USA comes mainly from anti-intellectualism, it therefore, gets part of its validity in its followers eyes from having no validity, which makes it really difficult to argue against with reason and logic.

Blame it on stupid Hollywood movies put forth by a doyenne whose whole life has been mainly based on preserving the oil based fortunes of her literal ilk.

Max Sinister
September 10th, 2007, 11:56 AM
we have the tech now to get rid of 80% of all waste from the power plants.

Which 80%? The biggest problem is the small percentage of high-radioactive waste, i.e. used nuclear rods.


Blame it on stupid Hollywood movies put forth by a doyenne whose whole life has been mainly based on preserving the oil based fortunes of her literal ilk.

What doyenne are you talking about?