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Keenir
July 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM
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AJNolte
July 11th, 2007, 06:01 PM
Big questions are:
1. Will there be a schism? Is Philip the Upright the only firm counter-reformer? If so, will he really not vote for his grandson as HRE? I think it could actually stay together, but I'm not sold on that.
2. What is the elector-Bishop of Cologne doing?
3. Will there be religious wars? If so, where and of what intensity?
Keenir
July 11th, 2007, 06:16 PM
Big questions are:
1. Will there be a schism? Is Philip the Upright the only firm counter-reformer? If so, will he really not vote for his grandson as HRE? I think it could actually stay together, but I'm not sold on that.


I just had the strangest image: Philip's grandson recognizing Wettinite religious doctrine as truth, but also recognizing the Pope's temporal supremacy.

(possibly a lead-in to using force to put a Wettinite on the throne of St Peter)
Analytical Engine
July 12th, 2007, 11:47 AM
I just had the strangest image: Philip's grandson recognizing Wettinite religious doctrine as truth, but also recognizing the Pope's temporal supremacy.

(possibly a lead-in to using force to put a Wettinite on the throne of St Peter)

A Uniate German-Rite Catholic Church. :cool:

I could actually see England going for that too, eventually. Scandinavia shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Is Poland going to have a national church, like they discussed in OTL? :confused:
AJNolte
July 16th, 2007, 09:19 PM
I just had the strangest image: Philip's grandson recognizing Wettinite religious doctrine as truth, but also recognizing the Pope's temporal supremacy.

(possibly a lead-in to using force to put a Wettinite on the throne of St Peter)


I like...
Anyone have plausibility concerns?
Perhaps not a Wettinite, but Cajitan the "great compromiser" would be interesting.
A uniate German rite Catholic church indeed, with links to the Sorskivites and Eastern Orthodox. I really like that. Assuming it passes plausibility.
Keenir
July 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM
I like...
Anyone have plausibility concerns?
Perhaps not a Wettinite, but Cajitan the "great compromiser" would be interesting.
A uniate German rite Catholic church indeed, with links to the Sorskivites and Eastern Orthodox. I really like that. Assuming it passes plausibility.

uno momento...
marl_d
July 17th, 2007, 05:09 AM
uno momento...

wow....long moment
Keenir
July 17th, 2007, 06:00 AM
wow....long moment

yeah, took a while for me to formulate a PM.

sorry.
marl_d
July 17th, 2007, 06:13 AM
LOL...hey got to mess with someone, might as well be you :D:p:D:cool:
Keenir
July 17th, 2007, 10:30 AM
LOL..

true, true.

.hey got to mess with someone, might as well be you :D:p:D:cool:

I suppose so.
Analytical Engine
July 19th, 2007, 11:39 AM
When are we (the Electors) going to vote for a new Emperor?
AJNolte
July 19th, 2007, 03:41 PM
When are we (the Electors) going to vote for a new Emperor?

Thought we did that already?
As of 1523, ErnstFrederick of Saxony is the only candidate I know of. Are there others?
Keenir
July 19th, 2007, 06:49 PM
Thought we did that already?
As of 1523, ErnstFrederick of Saxony is the only candidate I know of. Are there others?

Ludwig of Palantine (born 1498)....I just don't know which retro threads are open and which are locked this week.
AJNolte
July 20th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Ludwig of Palantine (born 1498)....I just don't know which retro threads are open and which are locked this week.

Awesome. I'll get a HRE electoral thread started.

For lack of a better method, I recommend we do it like an actual election, more or less. Each HRE candidate says approximately what they'd do, their religious affiliations and the like, and we see if there's a consensus.

Anyone know how many electors it takes to make an emperor? Is it simple majority?