1493 First Draft Events 1510-1520

[Glen]

Post here your first draft events for 1510 to 1520. If they only involve your nations, then post them here directly. If they involve the people or lands under the guidance of another, then discuss it with that person in PM or in the International Discussion thread to come to agreement first (if possible), and only then post them here.

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1500:

1500-1503:

1500 Spring:

1500 March:

1500 March-April:

1500 March 15:

1500 March 15-20:

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[DuQuense]

1513
Prince Tang, one of Le Thanh Tong’s 14 sons, succeeded his father as Le Hien Tong . He was 54 years old at the time of his father's death.
He was an affable, meek and mild-mannered person. Due to his short period of rule and the fact that he didn't pass many significant reforms, his reign is considered to be an extension of Le Thanh Tong's rule.

1513
Champas traders land on the south end of Taiwan and establish a small trading post.
[?Who has Tiawan?]

1514
Hearing tales of a new land far to the south Champas traders arrive in Marege.

1515
Le Hien Tong dies.

1515
Le Tuc Tong (ruled 1504 - 1505)
Succeeding to Le Hien Tong was his third son who took the reign name as Le Tuc Tong. However, he fell gravely ill and died just two months after assuming the throne.
Given his older brother's subsequent history of ruthless abuse of power, there is suspicion that Le Tuc Tong was in fact murdered.

1515
Le Uy Muc
His older brother succeeded Le Tuc Tong as Le Uy Muc. The first thing the new Emperor did was to take revenge against those who had barred him from the throne by having them killed. Among his victims were the former Emperor's mother - which was considered a shocking display of evil behavior. Le Uy Muc was described as a cruel, sadistic, and depraved person, who wasted the court’s money and finances to indulge his whims. Well aware of the fact he was detested by his subjects, Le Uy Muc protected himself by hiring a group of elite bodyguards to surround him at all times. Among them was Mac Dang Dung who became very close to the Emperor and eventually rose to the rank of General.
Despite his precautions, in 1517 a half-brother who Le Uy Muc had put in prison, escaped and plotted with court insiders to assassinate the Emperor.
The assassination succeeded and the killer proclaimed himself Emperor under the name Le Tuong Duc.

About all Mac Dang Dung did was continue His war with the Khmer along Vietnam's southern and western borders.

1516
a small group of Buddhist monks arrive at the trading post in Taiwan

1517
Le Tuong Duc proved to be just as bad a ruler as Le Uy Muc. He reigned from 1517 to 1519, all the while spending down the royal treasury, and doing nothing to improve the country.
He was heedless to the reaction that his taxes caused throughout the country. His rule ended in 1519 when a group of officials and generals stormed the palace and killed him.

1518
A large group of Buddhist Monks arrive in Marege from Vietnam.

1519
At barely 17 years old, Le Tuong Ducs son, prince Le Y, was enthroned as the new emperor Le Chieu Tong .
As usual when a young Emperor came to the throne, factions within the court vied with one another for control of the government.
One powerful and growing faction was led by Mac Dang Dung. His growing power was resented by the leaders of two noble families in Vietnam: the Nguyen, under Nguyen Hoang Du, and the Trinh, under Trinh Duy Dai and Trinh Duy San.

1520
After a year of increasing tension, the Nguyen and the Trinh left the capital Hanoi and fled south, with the Emperor "under their protection".

[AJNolte]

1510-1511. Frederick begins streamlining the administration of his reunited duchy, and promulgates a succession law by which the estates will choose from among the sons of Wettin "one duke for all of Saxony", by which decision all of the other sons will be bound, and all of the estates likewise. While the duke remains soul ruler over Saxony, this decision helpsstrengthen the power of the estates.
1512: Philip Melanchthon begins studying at the University of Wittenberg, under the patronage of Martin Luther.
1513-14: ErnstFrederick, eldest son of the Duke of Saxony, goes on pilgrimage to Jerusalem and Rome with his father's private secretary Martin Luther. Luther's polemical commentary "On Rome and Jerusalem" contrasts the devotion and simple piety found in Jerusalem with the "whorish decadents" of Rome. ErnstFrederick, though more restrained, comes to a similar conclusion. Luther also writes his first commentary on the Jews, entitled "That Jesus Christ was Born a Jew"--which is a sympathetic treatment of the Jews, which castigates those who blame them for the crucifiction of Christ as "purveyers of effeminent nonsense." (note: OTL Luther held such beliefs until he was an old man, at which time he made a sharp U-turn in the opposite direction). Though this work is banned by their Catholic Majesties of Spain--among others--a copy of it will find it's way into the hands of Juan of Asturias.

[AJNolte]

1510: The Hanseatic League launches an expedition to the new world, supported by several German nobles including the count Palatine and Duke of Saxony, as well as the King of Naples. Their object is the tip of the southern continent, and a possible route into the Arthurian Ocean.

1511. After much hard sailing, the Straights of Magellan are found. The Hansa establish a small town and trading post called Fredericksberg (OTL Buenos Aires). Controversy remains as to whether the "Frederick" in question is Frederick of Saxony, Frederick of the teutonic order, Frederick the brother of the king of Naples or all three.
1512. Further Hansa ships and settlers set out for Fredericksberg, building it up to a population of 1,000. Many of these settlers are from poorer families from the Baltic coast, or even peasants from Saxony and the Palatinate who have been promised freedom from their feudal obligations. Others are Teutonic knights.
1513: The 'Fredericksberg Decree': "Any throughout the Holy Roman Empire and Christian Europe who wish to do so may settle and trade in Fredericksberg."
1514. Dietrich Segelmeister, a young ship captain (born 1493) from Lubeck, sets out with a fleet to sail into the Arthurian ocean. His voyage will last five years, and will lead to contact with many nations in the Arthurian Ocean (I'll need to talk to people in the Philippines if there are any, as well as probably Indonesia and along the Pacific coast of America. I don't know if he can reach Japan, China and Hawaii, but all of these would be cool also). Segelmeister will return with rich treasures to a hero's welcome.

Portugal: looks like a Hanseatic/Portugese rivalry is a fe'et accompli, unless we can work something out. Please contact me.
151x: (date to be determined by Glen), Sabastian Cabbot's expedition is greeted cordially by the residents of Fredericksberg. Cabbot is asked to discuss with the English an "open door policy" for trade through the straights, and in the lands beyond them.

[The Sicilian]

Naples
1510: A small trading post and fort are built on some of the highland on the Ferrantean river delta

1511: Prince Alphonso of Naples returns to Italy. He bring with him his family, consisting of his
wife, Maria Christina, his sons, Filippo and Ferrante, and his daughters, Leonora, Diana and
Giovanna. The Kings brother Frederick takes over his role as ambassador to Ndongo

1512: A Neapolitan colony is established at the harbor where sailors shipwrecked several years
ago (near OTL Capetown). It is named Porte Calabria.

1513: A sister city to Fredericksburg is established on the opposite side of the River (OTL
Montevideo). It is named Santo Alphonso and receives immigrants to the Mediterranean.

[Glen]

1510: The Hanseatic League launches an expedition to the new world, supported by several German nobles including the count Palatine and Duke of Saxony. Their object is the tip of the southern continent, and a possible route into the Arthurian Ocean.

1511. After much hard sailing, the Straights of Magellan are found. The Hansa establish a small town and trading post called Fredericksberg (OTL Buenos Aires).
1512. Further Hansa ships and settlers set out for Fredericksberg, building it up to a population of 1,000. Many of these settlers are from poorer families from the Baltic coast, or even peasants from Saxony and the Palatinate who have been promised freedom from their feudal obligations. Others are Teutonic knights.
1514. Dietrich Segelmeister, a young ship captain (born 1493) from Lubeck, sets out with a fleet to sail into the Arthurian ocean. His voyage will last five years, and will lead to contact with many nations in the Arthurian Ocean (I'll need to talk to people in the Philippines if there are any). Segelmeister will return with rich treasures to a hero's welcome.

Portugal: looks like a Hanseatic/Portugese rivalry is a fe'et accompli, unless we can work something out. Please contact me.
151x: (date to be determined by Glen), Sabastian Cabbot's expedition is greeted cordially by the residents of Fredericksberg. Cabbot is asked to discuss with the English an "open door policy" for trade through the straights, and in the lands beyond them.


Wrong about Cabot's expedition. It happens in the mid 1500s.

[Atom]

Note: I worked this stuff out with AJNolte, so when I mention foreighners, that means the Hansa)
1513: The library/academy called the churay jap'eqay khipu (place of khipu learning), with Washakr and his family being the main financiers. It is located just off the plaza of Awkaypata, and is quite large, being 200m by 150m in length. A hundred students are enrolled. Washkar finances a grand history of the Inca, and writing down of the religion. The history is notably pro-Washkar.


Winter-Spring of 1515: Nina Cuyuchi convinces his father (the Inka) to give him an army to conquer the forest of Peru to the northeast of Cuzco. He heads off with a few thousand men and leaves in spring. Attawalpa (the Inka's favorite) begins considering sending an amry to the north to conquer more in his fathers birthplace, to get back the favorite position of his father.


Summer 1515: Nina Cuyuchi suffers a defeat by the hands of the jungle tribes. He does have a small vicotry, and sends word of only the victory to Cuzco. Waynu Qapac is pleased, and Atawallpa gets very nervous.

1515-1520: Nina Cuyuchi stays in the jungles, builds a provincial capital and palace in llatjta sach'a sach'a (city of the forest, slightly father down from Rio Branco Bazil OTL). he begins brutal subjugation of the people in the forest. He also begins gathering nobles from Antisuyu (one of the four quarters, the main territorial division of the Inca Empire) for an eventual fight for the royal fringe.


Spring of 1516: Attawalpa, convinces his father to go north with him, the best generals, and 10,000 troops. Washkar remains in Cuzco, and is there at the first graduating ceremony at the Churay. he begins pondering whether to open up other classes, with the new traders from the east...


Late Spring-Fall 1516: Attawalpa has a brilliant success in the north in the jungles of Ecuador, beofre being defeated in the fall. Waynu Qapac builds a pleasure palace in Cuenca. He drinks a lot of Chincha, parties, and leaves adminstration and war to his son.


1518-1520: The first smallpox plague. The Hansa spread smallpox too the land of Four quarters, killing 6 million people, and chopping the population by 50%. Waynu Qapac dies as does Washkar. Wayna Qapac lieing on his deathbed, retracts Attawalpa as the heir, but then dies, leaving no one really sure what to do. Washkar's family quickly puts his younger brother, Yachay Runa (knowledgeable man) for the royal fringe. He gathers an army and puts out a call to his brothers to join him and accept his Incaship (is that a word?). His chief credential is being the son of the sister of the Inca, and of course the Inca himself. Attawalpa's army came out the best, he has the best generals, and has a lot of support in the military. Nina cuyuchi was hit very badly and now suffers horrible smallpox scars. He marches into Antisuyu and begins gathering an army.

[Glen]

I'm confused. The Inca are getting smallpox from the Hansa how again?

[AJNolte]

I'm confused. The Inca are getting smallpox from the Hansa how again?

How far toward the southern Cone do the Inca extend? That's the real question. If they're far enough south, contact between them and the Hansa is not out of the question (assuming the Hansa expedition stands).

[Smaug]

How far toward the southern Cone do the Inca extend? That's the real question. If they're far enough south, contact between them and the Hansa is not out of the question (assuming the Hansa expedition stands).

For what its worth, I don't think the Inca ever got past the middle of modern day Chile, to the South, though they did make it past the Andes, and had a few settlement in OTL Argentina I think, mind you , they'd be right near the Andes.

[Smaug]

1514. The King of Benin, sends an Emissary to the Ndongo, hoping to meet with these new peoples. He hopes to talk to these people who worship the ,"Man who was Nailed to a Tree", and hopes to learn more about the ways of these people. He sends 1,000 slave along with his emissary, and a plethora of goods in the hope that his request is well received.

He's knows that thier are factions among them, and requests that they send the Fransinkin (Franciscan) variety. Traders have spoken well of them, compared to some of the more ruthless Tree-man worshippers.

[Tom Veil]

For what its worth, I don't think the Inca ever got past the middle of modern day Chile, to the South, though they did make it past the Andes, and had a few settlement in OTL Argentina I think, mind you , they'd be right near the Andes.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca, the Inca didn't even reach Bolivia, let alone Chile, until after 1493.

[AJNolte]

1514. The King of Benin, sends an Emissary to the Ndongo, hoping to meet with these new peoples. He hopes to talk to these people who worship the ,"Man who was Nailed to a Tree", and hopes to learn more about the ways of these people. He sends 1,000 slave along with his emissary, and a plethora of goods in the hope that his request is well received.

He's knows that thier are factions among them, and requests that they send the Fransinkin (Franciscan) variety. Traders have spoken well of them, compared to some of the more ruthless Tree-man worshippers.


1514: a Kongolese mission including Franciscans is dispatched to the south. King Aphonso begins to question the morality of slavery. Though he is not deeply troubled by it at present, this is the first point at which the morality of the issue seems to cross his mind.

[Atom]

Well, when Ajnolte Pm'ed me , he siad they would arive 1514-1515-ish. i just followed that. Oh, and wikipedia was wrong, Thupa inca, and his father Pachakuti (the ninth and tenth) conquered chile and bolivia. We extend to the northern aprt of the central valley of chile. I am sorry if i mesed things up, this was only my understanfing from My conversation with AJNolte.

[DuQuense]

lets not be to quick to dismiss Slavery. At this time it is not Race based yet.
Look at what happens when there is no value to keeping your enemy alive - ie- Hutus v Tutus- in Rowanda. And this is the underlying mindset of 1500.

If whe can keep it non race based, and add in a few Moral Rules for treatment of such- then whe can have a broad consensus, a couple centuries from now to get rid of it.

[Smaug]

1514: a Kongolese mission including Franciscans is dispatched to the south. King Aphonso begins to question the morality of slavery. Though he is not deeply troubled by it at present, this is the first point at which the morality of the issue seems to cross his mind.


Could you send them North? :)

[Smaug]

Well, when Ajnolte Pm'ed me , he siad they would arive 1514-1515-ish. i just followed that. Oh, and wikipedia was wrong, Thupa inca, and his father Pachakuti (the ninth and tenth) conquered chile and bolivia. We extend to the northern aprt of the central valley of chile. I am sorry if i mesed things up, this was only my understanfing from My conversation with AJNolte.

I'd bet money that the Inca had the Northern half of Chile at some time.

[The Sicilian]

Naples
1517: Alphonso II, King of Naples, Sicily and Jerusalem, dies at the age of 68. He is suceeded by his son Alphonso III, Duke of Romagna. Prince Filippo 'Il Turcu' become heir appearant.

[marl_d]

lets not be to quick to dismiss Slavery. At this time it is not Race based yet.
Look at what happens when there is no value to keeping your enemy alive - ie- Hutus v Tutus- in Rowanda. And this is the underlying mindset of 1500.

If whe can keep it non race based, and add in a few Moral Rules for treatment of such- then whe can have a broad consensus, a couple centuries from now to get rid of it.

yeah, expecially when Russian and Lith/Poland was a great place for the Crimean's to get their slaves for export...it wasn't till the NW colonies were more established and the climate was easier for African's to handle and cheaper to transport than other's.

[KineticBots]

1513
Champas traders land on the south end of Taiwan and establish a small trading post.
[?Who has Tiawan?]




IIRC, nobody technically has Taiwan at the moment. I don't think Ming China has really claimed it. You may recall that China and Ryukyu have both sent forces to the island. I can't speak for China (General Paul) but there is still a Ryukyuan presence in the north, having established colonies there.

I don't know how far Ryukyuan influence could really be extended, and I certainly doubt that they'd be willing to fight any other colonists in the south, so long as they posed no threat to their colonies in the north.

That all said, any problems and you should probably PM General Paul or myself.


Regards,
KineticBots

[Atom]

I will rewrite the Inca events. The current ones do not count. Mistake on my part. Kay?

[Tom Veil]

I will rewrite the Inca events. The current ones do not count. Mistake on my part. Kay?
All of them, or just the post-1510 ones?

[Atom]

All of them, or just the post-1510 ones?
Post 1515 or so, but (to make sure glen doesn'y explode) They will be posted with the rest of the 1510-1520 events. Unless you have issues with all of my events. Do you?

[AJNolte]

lets not be to quick to dismiss Slavery. At this time it is not Race based yet.
Look at what happens when there is no value to keeping your enemy alive - ie- Hutus v Tutus- in Rowanda. And this is the underlying mindset of 1500.

If whe can keep it non race based, and add in a few Moral Rules for treatment of such- then whe can have a broad consensus, a couple centuries from now to get rid of it.

This is just Aphonso having some early qualms about it. Mainly it will lead to an intensification of his OTL dislike for selling Africans to Europeans.

[The Sicilian]

Papacy
1510: After arriving in San Juan, the priests from the Vatican find the island in a state of chaos as smallpox ravages the natives. They quickly establish a hospital and church and get to work healing and converting.

1512: Innocent IX dies, and is replaced by his relative Alessandro Carafa. He takes the name Innocent X.

[KineticBots]

Domestic and International events - Kingdom of Ryukyu
1510-1519 - 'The Pirate Wars'

1510: The government officials and private businessmen who travelled to China to learn about the new economic/financial concept of the 'business compact' return to Okinawa and the other main islands. They immediately begin the process of restructuring the Ryukyuan commercial system. These new processes soon travel to the colonies in Taiwan.

1511: Trade with the Taiwanese people is strengthened by the new way in which the trade companies are organised and run. More colonies are established along the north-east and north-west coasts and further inland. Several hundred Ryukyuans have now permanantly relocated to Taiwan to participate in the flourishing trade markets.

King Sho shin recalls the Royal navy that was built for the 'invasion' of Taiwan. The amount of trade now passing between Japan, China, and the states of South-East Asia via Okinawa has convinced Sho shin that protection of the merchant fleets and port-cities is of supreme importance to the continued success of Ryukyu. All the navy was required to do was escort the larger fleets to and from port, and occasionally run patrols outside of the principle harbours. Many individuals later doubted that this was the real reason the navy was recalled, as it was noticed that a high percentage of the sailors appeared to be becoming restless during the period of inactivity.

Later that year however, the navy became occupied with a much more serious task. Two years before, Japanese Shogun Ashikaga Yoshitane had declared a 'war on piracy'. In the years following the new-found Sino-Ryukyuan political and diplomatic equality, King Sho shin, whose reign has long since been considered synonymous with a Ryukyuan 'golden age', attempted to gain further recognition amongst the states of East and South-East Asia as a powerful and independent nation. It was a matter of international prestige, as well as national security, that drove Sho shin to commit the bulk of the Ryukyuan navy to the war on piracy.

1512: The somewhat nervous Ryukyuan navy begins its campaign against piracy. Operating in the waters between Ryukyu and mainland China, they see little action, involved in the occasional minor skirmish. What action they did see gave them the experience neccessary to handle the next opponents. With each battle, they show signs of improvement, slowly becoming a more coherent force.

1517: After five years of active duty in foreign waters the Ryukyuan navy had been planning to return home. Piracy in the south China seas had been slowly decreasing, but then a sharp increase in the number of pirate vessels intercepted was noticed. It later became apparent that the Japanese navy had forced a large number of pirates operating off the northern Chinese coast south, who naturally encroached on the waters in which the Ryukyuan navy was operating. Over the next two years, the Ryukyuan navy, in association with elements of the navy of the dominant clans of eastern Japan, continued their struggle against the final rogue pirates.

1519: With Japanese Shogun Ashikaga Yoshitane declaring and end to the ten year war on piracy, the ships committed by King Sho shin to that confrontation are recalled. The Ryukyuan navy had gained invaluabe experience throughout that struggle, and was now more powerful than it had ever been. It became a beacon of pride for Ryukyu contemporarily and in future generations. Indeed the pirate wars have been attributed as the event that turned Ryukyu from a seagoing people into a regional naval power.

However, rather than risking the sailors sitting idol again, King Sho shin decided to occupy them with a series of voages. The first of these involved a journey south. That year they circumnavigated Luzon and Mindanao, bringing back maps they had drawn, as well as various goods they had traded with the locals. This apparent success only drove not only Sho shin, but many in the navy, to higher aspirations. It was for this reason that they were sent in the direction that held the most unknown - east.


Regards,
KineticBots

[Glen]

England:

December 1509 25:

Addendum. The new King Arthur the Second has the title, ‘King of the Britons’ added to those of the coronation ceremony.

1510: King Arthur the Second forms a new order of knighthood, the Order of the Round Table. Among the first to be inducted into the prestigious new order is his brother, Henry Tudor.

1511:

King Arthur II declares that Wales shall be known henceforth as Britain, in honor of its heritage. For years, Britons had complained of being known as ‘Weales’ or foreigners in old Anglo-Saxon.

1511 June 28: King Arthur the Second, on the occasion of his brother Henry’s twentieth birthday, declares him ‘Lord Champion of the Realm’.

Norasia:

1512: Smallpox breaks out among the Lenape and Mohicans along the Meryk River. The contagion rages like wildfire, turning whole villages into ghostly places. The suffering is terrible, and spreads as fast as word of the plague, impacting all the tribes in the region.

Anglo-British Empire:

1519 December 25:

On the twentieth anniversary of King Arthur the Second’s investiture, Parliament declares the realm an empire, raising Britain to full kingdom status alongside England, raising Ireland to a principality, and confirming Cornwall’s status as a duchy. The heir designate continues to hold the title ‘Prince of Britain’. The Lord Champion, Henry Tudor, is named Prince of Ireland.

[The Sicilian]

I'm pretty sure that the HRE wouldn't take that very well...

[Glen]

I'm pretty sure that the HRE wouldn't take that very well...

Wouldn't take what very well, precisely?

Not that the English are going to worry overly much about it, but I'm just curious.

Note that IOTL Henry VIIIth had England declared an Empire only a few decades later than this.

[Glen]

England:

1512: King Arthur the Second declares a new order, the Order of Merlin. The Order of Merlin is awarded solely to Englishmen of Arts and Letters such as Natural Philosophers, and allows for them to sit in Parliament, to better advise the nation.

1514: King Arthur the Second creates a companion order to the Merlins, the Order of the Venerable Bede. This is an honorary order for foreign men of Arts and Letters. It does not confer any rights within the Empire. Leonardo da Vinci is among the first offered the award.

[Smaug]

England:

1509 December 25:

Addendum. The new King Arthur the Second has the title, ‘King of the Britons’ added to those of the coronation ceremony.

1510: King Arthur the Second forms a new order of knighthood, the Order of the Round Table. Among the first to be inducted into the prestigious new order is his brother, Henry Tudor.

1511:

King Arthur II declares that Wales shall be known henceforth as Britain, in honor of its heritage. For years, Britons had complained of being known as ‘Weales’ or foreigners in old Anglo-Saxon.

1511 June 28: King Arthur the Second, on the occasion of his brother Henry’s twentieth birthday, declares him ‘Lord Champion of the Realm’.

Norasia:

1512: Smallpox breaks out among the Lenape and Mohicans along the Meryk River. The contagion rages like wildfire, turning whole villages into ghostly places. The suffering is terrible, and spreads as fast as word of the plague, impacting all the tribes in the region.

Anglo-British Empire:

1519 December 25:

On the twentieth anniversary of King Arthur the Second’s investiture, Parliament declares the realm an empire, raising Britain to full kingdom status alongside England, raising Ireland to a principality, and confirming Cornwall’s status as a duchy. The heir designate continues to hold the title ‘Prince of Britain’. The Lord Champion, Henry Tudor, is named Prince of Ireland.

Wow...That last one is a bit of a twist.

[Glen]

Wow...That last one is a bit of a twist.

Rather proud of that last bit. I recall someone (was it Oth) at one time saying there would never be any historical reason for using both Angle and British in the same title....and then it occurred to me that there might be....:)

[Glen]

England:

1513:

Young Christopher Walker, on the recommendation of his captain, Sebastian Cabot, is given a captaincy with the Bristol-Norasia Company and a charter to search for a Northwest Passage to Asia.

[AJNolte]

1512: Thomas Docwra orders that a census of all the knights, sergeants and chaplains be taken, and an account made of all the order's property.
1513: Realizing that the order is badly over-stretched, Docwra begins determinedly setting out to increase the order's men-at-arms, offering a payment of debts and a silver piece a month to any Christian who will take the cross. Sergeants and men-at-arms are also freed from all vows, save obedience to the order and mother church.
1514: January, the Pope confirms Thomas Docwra as Patriarch of Jerusalem.
1514: March, Docwra hears of the smallpox breaking out in Norasia through his contacts at the Anglo-British court. He offers a mission of Hospitalers (still some of the best doctors in Christendom) to come help fight the epidemic among Arthur's allies, and to undertake the work of converting them, and asks King Arthur for a small land grant in Norasia in return. (note: PM me).
1515: After a year as both grand master of the Hospitalers and Patriarch of Jerusalem, Docwra's health takes a slight turn for the worse due to the strain. He entreats the Pope to appoint a new patriarch. The Pope complies, appointing Cardinal Cajitan to the post.
1516: Docwra, having made a full recovery, begins ambitious plans to reform the order's administration. As a result, the order's profits increase.
1517: April, Constantine, son of Cem, reaches his majority and is duely crowned King of Rhodes by the Orthodox Archbishop of Rhodes. His first official act is to formally invite the Hospitalers to retain their grand commandry on the island, and ask for their help in forming an independent Rhodean navy. His second act is to send letters to both the Tsar of the Russ and the Ottoman Emperor promising his friendship.
1517: Summer and fall, Bolstered by the many recruits which have been flooding into the order, Docwra expands the commandries in Djibouti, Mbanza-Kongo and the capital of Ndongo.

[AJNolte]

1519: After three years serving as an aid to Patriarch Cajitan in Jerusalem, Francisco DeVitoria leaves for the University of Salamanca, where he takes up a quite influential professorship.

[AJNolte]

1510: The addition of Lucca and Ostia to the Hansa has forced a reorganization. The league meets in a grand council at Lubeck. The grand council agrees to the division of the Hansa into new thirds: Rhenish, Wendish and Italian. The former Prussian third, which had been suffering after the Levonian war, was absorbed into the Wendish Federation, though the grand-master of the Teutonic Order greatly feared that the Elector of Brandenburg and others would probably end up with most of the old Prussian lands. The grand council was confirmed as a biannual event, with the council of each third to meet once a year. The Rhenish and Italian thirds were tasked with expanding Hanseatic networks in their areas. Malta was given semi-autonomous status.
1512: The Hanseatic League was able to confirm the fact that the decade of 1500-1510 had been the most profitable in a century.
1516: the great port city being constructed in Malta was named Saint Mary's, though locals soon took to calling it Sanmaria. It was officially designated Malta's new capital, and the Maltese senate and assembly held their first meeting in the half-completed capital building. Money from Germany and Italy poured into the construction of Sanmaria, which was intended to be an elegant but spartan fortress city and trade (and piracy) hub.

[Psychomeltdown]

PORTUGAL – DOMESTIC EVENTS

1511

January, 23 – Margaret of Portugal gives birth to her final child, Anna.

Manoel I begins the renovation of Lisbon, creating new aqueducts, expanding its already massive harbor and shipyards, roads, and various other city infrastructures, creating a new Rome in the West.

New schools, universities, hospitals are built due to Margaret of Portugal’s encouraging. The Music and arts are also heavily funded.

1512

The Catholic Church in Portugal is only a former power of what it once was. Manoel I is completing the work begun by John II in focusing all power upon the crown.

1513

Spring – Manoel I enacts laws that further weaken the power of the Nobility, in it’s stead raising the position of the merchant class that has grown to power in the last decade.

Due to the long distances and far-flung ports in South America, Africa, India, and Asia, the Portuguese begin developing specialized warships. Fast, agile, maneuverable, and heavily armed, these are set apart from the generally large and slower ships that have been used for decades in trading and war.

Alfonso De Albuquerque is named the second Viceroy of the State of India. Vasgo De Gama returns home to a hero’s welcome.

1514

Spring - Manoel I, to protect it’s interests and claims in the New World, sends 1000 political prisoners to start up a colony in Brazil called San Juan. By next year, only 200 will have survived.

The Passover Plot occurs, when seven young noble men are caught plotting the overthrow of the Portuguese crown. Some call it overreacting, but by year’s end, the seven young noblemen’s families and associates are rounded up and executed, their lands confiscated, and their titles revoked.

1515

Manoel I names Vasco De Gama Grand Admiral of the Oceans, in honor of his long service and dedication to the Kingdom.

Due to the vast amount of wealth that has been spent on building projects, expansion in the textile and manufacturing fields, in hospitals, universities, and it’s every growing army and navy, the Portuguese population has exploded in the last decade. Manoel I begins overhauling the farming practices in Portugal.

1516

Manoel I begins selling large estates in East Africa and South Africa to merchants and nobles alike, in order to encourage settling and to lessen the expenditure required to maintain the fortresses and harbors in those conquered regions. Hundreds of merchants and nobles begin buying up plots, in hopes of striking it rich. He does the same in Brazil and South America, but there are little takers.


1517

The Portuguese ‘Inquisition’ begins; it’s not a religious inquisition, but a political one. Thousands of men and women are rounded up for suspicion of acting against the crown. Unsurprisingly most belong to either the church or nobility.

Alfonso De Albuquerque is called back to Portugal to face charges of possibly disloyalty of the Crown. But due to Vasco De Gama’s exquisite letter to the King proclaiming the virtues and loyalty of De Albuquerque, he is cleared of the charges.

November, 17 - Manoel II, the heir to the Portuguese throne, dies of an illness. His death sends Margaret of Portugal into a state of deep mourning.

1518

Margaret of Portugal dies. Manoel I begins building a massive church in honor of his wife, the Margaret Church will be a marvel of engineering and beauty for hundreds of years.

1519

The Seven Companies Compact is created. Seven trading companies are allowed by Manoel I to operate in the areas held by Portugal, including East Africa, India, and Asia.

1520

The Great Fire of Porto, puts to ash nearly the entire city. Its rebuilding will become Manoel’s greatest achievement, carried on later by his successor.

[Analytical Engine]

1514 – Henry IV of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel dies. He is succeeded by his son, Henry V

[Glen]

1514: March, Docwra hears of the smallpox breaking out in Norasia through his contacts at the Anglo-British court. He offers a mission of Hospitalers (still some of the best doctors in Christendom) to come help fight the epidemic among Arthur's allies, and to undertake the work of converting them, and asks King Arthur for a small land grant in Norasia in return. (note: PM me).

This one is going to need some work. I'll PM you. One thing I would note is there's an anachronism. Its still the English Court until 1519.

[Aussey]

This is not finnished. I still need to add international responses to a few things listed in here, as well as somethings with the Kongo.
Papacy and Kongo and Naples- Please PM me!
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1510 Spring: The "Decisione vittoriosa," is decided upon by King Diego and the Macota of the Kingdom of Ndongo-Matamba. In return for complete internal autonomy, and freedom to practice their own religions, over 4,000 Jaga Cassangi mercenaries are sent to finally destroy the Lunda empire, under to command of Prince Marcos, King Diego's brother.

1510 Summer: The King's eldest son, the Duke of Benguela, is betrothed to the daughter of the chief-king of the Lunda states, the king of Luba. She is christened Maria-Caterina, and upon marriage to the Prince, styled Duchess of Benguela. She brings with her a large dowry of iron ore, salt, and palm oil- main items of the Lunda state of Luba.

1510 Fall: A company of jungle-crusaders capture the Luba king, and revoke all treaties with him. With the other Lunda states captured, the Crusade has proven successfull. The king of Luba is executed in his capital immediatley after declaring his Catholic daughter, the Duchess of Benguela, "Empress of Lunda and Queen of Luba." The other Lunda states acknowledge her as their sovereign.

1510 Winter:
An extravagant three-week long celebration of victory in the Crusade and of Christmas is held in Ndongo. King Diego is crowned "Emperor of Lunda, King of Luba and Kazembe-Lunda," by the Bishop. Following the festivities, many missionaries and soldiers are sent into the Lunda states, forcing the peoples to either convert or die. Food supply is cut off to the quarantined states until the entire state is either converted or killed.

1511:
When King Diego orders the extermination of the entire Lunda and non-Catholic Matamban people, he is officially deposed by the Macota of Ndongo-Matamba, and the Kingdom is placed under the Regency of the former king's sister and brother-in-law Prince Marcos and Princess Maria-Joséphine. The Duke of Benguela is crowned "King Emmanuel II."

Prince Marcos, always the thinker, sends a delegation to be lead by his warrior-wife to Rome, to ask the Holy Father how the Kingdom should deal with non-Catholic Ndongolese-Matambans, and non-Catholic conquered peoples. Meanwhile, he and his Franciscan advisors divide the Lunda states into two provinces- In the north, Luba, and in the south, Lunda. Meanwhile, in order to thank the Kongo, he gives them the Kongolese-speaking kingdom of Ngoyo, and promises to lend soldiers to help the Kongolese in the conquering of the heathen empire of Luanda.

1512-1515: The Lunda province is established as the seat of the second diocese of the Roman Catholic Church in Ndongo- the Diocese of Inner Africa. The Bishop in Sao Rafael is re-titled Bishop of Sao Rafael, the Franciscans place on of their own as Bishop of Inner Africa. The missionaries work in Luba and Lunda proves more successful than in Matamba, and stories of monotheistic coastal landers on the other ocean are told of. Prince Marcos begins the Construction of Ndongo- that, is the beginning of building permanent structures and walled cities throughout the heartland of the kingdom- Ndongo. Co-Regent Princess Maria-Joséphine dies on the voyage home to Ndongo.

1516 Spring: Queen Maria-Caterina gives birth to a son, who is named Giuseppe. He is made Duke of Benguela. Prince-Regent Marcos marries a Jaga princess, against the will of the Macota.

1517 Summer: The Macota declare Prince Marcos unfit to be Regent. Captain Benedetto is declared "Regent of the Kingdom," and is made a Dicota (Privy Council member,) and declares himself his own Tendala, or chancellor, sending his Franciscan predecessor to convert the Luba. He dies on his way.

1518: Though a baptized Catholic, Captain Benedetto cares little for religion, and begins to focus on agriculture and mining. He grants more the Neapolitans exclusive trade over Ivory, and splits the products 60-40 with them. He also signs an alliance with the Bemba people, recognizing their sovereignty, and non-Catholic status as an African nation; ensuring peace on Ndongo-Matamba's southern border.

He then marries another Lunda princess, who's Christian name is Elisabetta. He makes himself Marquis of Dominio-Meridionale. He also establishes the Jaga Cassangi country as it's own province.

1519: King Emmanuell II takes power in his own, and sends Marquis Benedetto to Jaga Cassangi to serve as Governor. The King appoints a Catholic Matamban Franciscan monk as his tendala. The Queen gives birth to a daughter, who is named Princess Maria-Iosephina.

*Note- Actual control is only held in Ndongo, western and norther Matamba, and for now, in Lunda and Luba as they still ave lots of soldiers. Inner Matamba, as well as Jaga Cassangi, lower Luba are very much autonomous and resisting. As of now, the only tie they have to Sao Rafael is their acknowledgement of Emmanuel II as their King and Overlord.

[Glen]

I'd definitely drop the 'Final Solution' comment; too parallelist.

What are the Pygmy States?:confused:

That Italian Colony at the Cape we need to clarify still IIRC.

[Aussey]

What are the Pygmy States?:confused:

That Italian Colony at the Cape we need to clarify still IIRC.

There small tribes, mainly pygmy, many have a mix of East African and Sudanese in them. They are nothing really, I just wanted to post it up there.

I believe it was a claim on the cape. But w/e. I was just putting it up.

[The Sicilian]

Wouldn't take what very well, precisely?

Not that the English are going to worry overly much about it, but I'm just curious.

Note that IOTL Henry VIIIth had England declared an Empire only a few decades later than this.
I think that I misread that. He declared his realm to be an Empire, not himself to be an Emperor. Sorry.

[The Sicilian]

That Italian Colony at the Cape we need to clarify still IIRC.
At this point it is just a small dock, fort, mission and trading post to facilitate trade with the people of the region, but it will be expanded later on.

[Psychomeltdown]

At this point it is just a small dock, fort, mission and trading post to facilitate trade with the people of the region, but it will be expanded later on.

You know that that region belongs to the Portuguese? They've already set up settlements in South Africa...

[The Sicilian]

You know that that region belongs to the Portuguese? They've already set up settlements in South Africa...
Is that OTL or did you post those somewhere?
Besides, I'm not looking to get into conflict.

[Psychomeltdown]

Is that OTL or did you post those somewhere?
Besides, I'm not looking to get into conflict.

in the TL I posted. the Portuguese set up small settlements in the areas they conquered/claimed. Mainly in South Africa, East Africa, and parts of Madagascar.

[Aussey]

in the TL I posted. the Portuguese set up small settlements in the areas they conquered/claimed. Mainly in South Africa, East Africa, and parts of Madagascar.

Where in south Africa?

[Psychomeltdown]

Where in south Africa?

Cape of Good Hope region.

[Aussey]

Cape of Good Hope region.

Aren't the Neapolitans already there like Messiniano just said?!

[Psychomeltdown]

Aren't the Neapolitans already there like Messiniano just said?!

Portuguese settled there a couple of years after they set up trade with India.

I'll make a Portugal Thread with the TL...

[Aussey]

Portuguese settled there a couple of years after they set up trade with India.

I'll make a Portugal Thread with the TL...

haha. thanks! It was just a bit confusing

[The Sicilian]

Okay, to bring some clarification to the Capetown thing here are the events:

In 1504 Sicilians from Ndongo shipwrcked there

In 1508 Portugal established a port city there

In 1512 Naples established the above mention fort-church-trading post.

Assuming that two cities cannot coexist peacefully in one very strategic area, Psyco gets Capetown. His post was the same day as mine, but a few hours earlier.

[Atom]

Redone and without contact!
1513: The library/academy called the churay jap'eqay khipu (place of khipu learning), with Washakr and his family being the main financiers. It is located just off the plaza of Awkaypata, and is quite large, being 200m by 150m in length. A hundred students are enrolled. Washkar finances a grand history of the Inca, and writing down of the religion. The history is notably pro-Washkar.


Winter-Spring of 1515: Nina Cuyuchi convinces his father (the Inka) to give him an army to conquer the forest of Peru to the northeast of Cuzco. He heads off with a few thousand men and leaves in spring. Attawalpa (the Inka's favorite) begins considering sending an army to the north to conquer more in his fathers birthplace, to get back the favorite position of his father.


Summer 1515: Nina Cuyuchi suffers a defeat by the hands of the jungle tribes. He does have a small vicotry, and sends word of only the victory to Cuzco. Waynu Qapac is pleased, and Atawallpa gets very nervous.

1515-1517: Nina Cuyuchi stays in the jungles, builds a provincial capital and palace in llatjta sach'a sach'a (city of the forest, slightly father down from Rio Branco Bazil OTL). he begins brutal subjugation of the people in the forest. He also begins gathering nobles from Antisuyu (one of the four quarters, the main territorial division of the Inca Empire) for an eventual fight for the royal fringe.


Spring of 1516: Attawalpa, convinces his father to go north with him, the best generals, and 10,000 troops. Washkar remains in Cuzco, and is there at the first graduating ceremony at the Churay'eqay. he begins pondering whether to open up other classes, such as engineering, math, religion, health, and the sciences. unfortunately he is running out of money, so he decides to go and see if he can convince some other investors in Cuzco to fund the Churay'eqay.


Late Spring-Fall 1516: Attawalpa has a brilliant success in the north in the jungles of Ecuador, before being defeated in the fall. Waynu Qapac builds a pleasure palace in Cuenca. He drinks a lot of chincha, parties, and leaves administration and war to his son. Washkar gathers a large group of “investors” (nobles, and some priests, but I will use the term investors for shorthand) that agree to fund the Cheray'eqay, with a couple of conditions:

Every funding noble will receive a khipumaynac certified at academy
Any priest may receive training for free
Further demands can be made in the future, by investors.
With the money gained the academy expands once again, beginning construction of an off “campus” (throwing around terms here again) library and secondary building. In the secondary building there are math/science classes (very, very basic stuff. Mixed with a fair amount of religious mumbo-jumbo), and a few religious classes (all aproved by the priests of course). The main building now houses a engineering/architecture, class too. There are now 200 students, all of them from a noble background, or priests.


1517: Attawalpa suffers a humiliating defeat, but defeats the barbarian tribes over the summer. He is still publically berated by his father. A delegation is sent to the Muisca bearing stone masons, smiths, and khipumaynacs.


1518: Nina Cuyuchi is forced to pull back from the jungles, and begins heading back towards the foothills. His standings fall acordingly.


1519: Attawalpa begins Consolidating his hold on Ecuador, and preparing to move north into the jungle. his previous small forays have ended in defeat. He is gathering more troops, more supplies, and more copper axes, and prepares to absolutely destroy the coastal peoples, and (hopefully meat the Muisca).


1520: Attawalpa's campaign is very slow, advancing only 5 miles a day. He suffers a few defeats, but is generally successful, if very brutal.
Note that i am not very good at Quecha.

[AJNolte]

1510: the Spanish army and navy--which have been steadily building up since the crusade--continue to build. This worsens the Spanish financial situation.
1512: now desparately strapped for cash, the Spanish sell Jamaica to the Hanseatic League. Spain also permits some of her major cities--such as Toledo, Corduba, Barsalona and Madrid to join the Hansa, after confirming their free city charters. However Spain is still deeply in debt--with a large military and, at the moment, nothing to do with it...

[Psychomeltdown]

1510: the Spanish army and navy--which have been steadily building up since the crusade--continue to build. This worsens the Spanish financial situation.
1512: now desparately strapped for cash, the Spanish sell Jamaica to the Hanseatic League. Spain also permits some of her major cities--such as Toledo, Corduba, Barsalona and Madrid to join the Hansa, after confirming their free city charters. However Spain is still deeply in debt--with a large military and, at the moment, nothing to do with it...

I'm terribly confused as to why Spain would sell one of it's most profitable cities to a FOREIGN POWER??? Cities are powerful things, they are the heart of culture and they are the heart of industry. Spain as to be teetering upon the edge of bankruptcy and beyond to even begin to think of selling off one of it's cities. That will not relieve it's financial crisis, instead it will only worsen it.

You're looking at total financial collapse in a few years, if they are willing to go so far as to begin selling their cities for gold.

The only way for spain to actually begin getting back on it's feet is to cut back basically on all military funding, abandon it's colonies, and begin cleaning house, and that will take years if not decades. They've gone waaay downhill, especially since they're not saved by the influx of New World gold and silver.

[AJNolte]

1517: Bertholt of Mainz dies, and is replaced by Henry Wettin, making him the highest authority in the German church. He is replaced in Trier by a friend of his, Johann vonStaupitz.
1519: Henry Wettin orders an immediate cesasion of the sale of indulgences within Germany. When asked to defend his actions by the Pope, Wettin writes his "Treatise on the Righteousness of God and Man", in which he claims that all righteousness which man possesses must come as a gift from God through Christ alone, and that, while it is the place of the church to uphold good doctrine and teaching and lead people to Christ, that salvation belongs to Christ Alone. Wettin quotes heavily from Augustine and other church fathers.
1520: Wettin's actions cause great controversy in the papacy, as theologians and cannon lawyers scramble to refute (and in a few cases confirm) his arguments. Stunningly forceful and popular polemics on Wettin's behalf are written, in German for mass consumption, by Martin Luther, and more scholarly stayed works are written by Melanchthon and Staupitz. Throughout Germany, the Wettinite ideas grow in popularity, and are combined with calls for a German liturgy, German Bibles and a violent reaction against hyper-scholasticism. Henry Wettin gets behind these reforms, quickly called the Evangelical Reform Concord officially and the Wettinite Manifesto unofficially. Duke Frederick of Saxony, Philip the Elector Palatine, the Duke of Mecklenburg and notables within the Wendish Federation also get behind the Wettinite movement, and many of the secular lords press for reforms within the Holy Roman Empire such as a universal diet, not unlike the estates in Saxony or the council in the Wendish Federation, which can both help better organize the empire and potentially check the power of the Emperor. (note: I need to know if Maximillian is still alive).

The papacy will respond...next week.

[AJNolte]

I'm terribly confused as to why Spain would sell one of it's most profitable cities to a FOREIGN POWER??? Cities are powerful things, they are the heart of culture and they are the heart of industry. Spain as to be teetering upon the edge of bankruptcy and beyond to even begin to think of selling off one of it's cities. That will not relieve it's financial crisis, instead it will only worsen it.

You're looking at total financial collapse in a few years, if they are willing to go so far as to begin selling their cities for gold.

The only way for spain to actually begin getting back on it's feet is to cut back basically on all military funding, abandon it's colonies, and begin cleaning house, and that will take years if not decades. They've gone waaay downhill, especially since they're not saved by the influx of New World gold and silver.

Woe: you're not getting exactly what the Hansa is. It doesn't buy cities. It ***IS*** a collection of free cities. Ostia is a member, while also being part of the Papal states. The Wendish Federation is a member, while being an association of free cities and part of the Holy Roman Empire. Think of it more as a multi-national trading association, almost a prototype of the sovereign corporations sci-fi writers like to go on about, but with overlapping sovereignty with other nation-states. Hansa membership does not in any way mean that Spain is giving up it's sovereignty over these cities. What it does mean is that traders from these Spanish cities will be given free trade in other Hansa cities, and likewise for Hansa traders. Of course, some Hansa free cities have formed a government, the Wendish Federation, but this is a component part of the Hansa, not it's entirety.

Look, I know it's incredibly confusing (part of the reason the Hanseatic League did not survive I suspect), but suffice it to say that any Spanish cities which join the league will also remain Spanish.

And they're going to be getting some gold--lots of it actually--hopefully as soon as Smaug PMs me back on something.

[Psychomeltdown]

Woe: you're not getting exactly what the Hansa is. It doesn't buy cities. It ***IS*** a collection of free cities. Ostia is a member, while also being part of the Papal states. The Wendish Federation is a member, while being an association of free cities and part of the Holy Roman Empire. Think of it more as a multi-national trading association, almost a prototype of the sovereign corporations sci-fi writers like to go on about, but with overlapping sovereignty with other nation-states. Hansa membership does not in any way mean that Spain is giving up it's sovereignty over these cities. What it does mean is that traders from these Spanish cities will be given free trade in other Hansa cities, and likewise for Hansa traders. Of course, some Hansa free cities have formed a government, the Wendish Federation, but this is a component part of the Hansa, not it's entirety.

Look, I know it's incredibly confusing (part of the reason the Hanseatic League did not survive I suspect), but suffice it to say that any Spanish cities which join the league will also remain Spanish.

And they're going to be getting some gold--lots of it actually--hopefully as soon as Smaug PMs me back on something.

In that case, then wouldn't it be nigh impossible for them to even collectively agree upon what to do? I mean you're talking about scores of cities that are basically allied to one another and basically trying to get the best deal out of whatever situation they're in. Therefore if it comes to war, there'll be MAJOr conflicting difference in opinion. There is the general allegiance to the Association of cities, but not when it means it'll be costing you gobs of money to do this and to do that, while you're not being effectively bothered by it.

For example, say there are pirates attacking the costal cities, then League wants to build more ships to fend them off, but they can't solely place all the burden upon the costal cities and if they begin taxing the interior cities, then they'll be angry that they're begin taxed for something that does not even concern them.

Hell with enough money and political force you could start breaking up the association of cities.

People are greedy, people are really greedy at this time. You know during this time there is no sense of patriotism, no sense of nationality, beyond the vague sense of I'm from this place and this place is the best, but nothing in the sense of "I'm English! and I love my kingdom." Hence captains hired on by different nations, hence the convoluted alliances formed and broken, and the constant rebellion of cities and provinces.

Therefore if it's possible could i get a gist of how these nations are working together and how they're managing to act together like a unified country, while still having their little bit of sovereignty, and where they're getting all their gold from?

[AJNolte]

In that case, then wouldn't it be nigh impossible for them to even collectively agree upon what to do? I mean you're talking about scores of cities that are basically allied to one another and basically trying to get the best deal out of whatever situation they're in. Therefore if it comes to war, there'll be MAJOr conflicting difference in opinion. There is the general allegiance to the Association of cities, but not when it means it'll be costing you gobs of money to do this and to do that, while you're not being effectively bothered by it.

For example, say there are pirates attacking the costal cities, then League wants to build more ships to fend them off, but they can't solely place all the burden upon the costal cities and if they begin taxing the interior cities, then they'll be angry that they're begin taxed for something that does not even concern them.

Hell with enough money and political force you could start breaking up the association of cities.

People are greedy, people are really greedy at this time. You know during this time there is no sense of patriotism, no sense of nationality, beyond the vague sense of I'm from this place and this place is the best, but nothing in the sense of "I'm English! and I love my kingdom." Hence captains hired on by different nations, hence the convoluted alliances formed and broken, and the constant rebellion of cities and provinces.

Therefore if it's possible could i get a gist of how these nations are working together and how they're managing to act together like a unified country, while still having their little bit of sovereignty, and where they're getting all their gold from?

That's a good question, and one I faced when dealing with the Hansa.
First, let me explain how I did the Hanseatic League as a claim in this TL (those of you who remember this bit can go ahead and skip it). Basically there were three losely-affiliated t"thirds" within the Hansa as of 1493: Rhenish, Wendish (Baltic coast) and Prussian. I claimed the League entire, but this led to a lot of overlapping sovereignty. So I compromised and gave control of the Prussian third to the grand-master of the Teutonic Knights (John) the Rhenish third to the closest major magnate, the Elector Palatine (Keenir) and took the Wendish for myself. This way I figured I'd have a council which accurately reflected the diversity in the Hansa.

Now, as to the Hansa's common action, and later expansion. Really, it was a series of lucky chances. First, 1494 was a very bad trading year for the Hanseatic League, abnormally so (this was the POD). As a result, a grand council of the League was held in Lubeck, and certain agreements were made, among them an agreement to strengthen cooperation between the cities. Then the Calmarn Union started it's naval build-up, which led to a corresponding build-up from the Wendish. The Teutonic Knights--who had been losing their hold on Prussia--quickly became an armed component, and this combined with the formidable ship-building capacity of the Wendish free cities (now a federation) led to a strong military, particularly relative to what they had before. The Teutonic Grand master also interceded with the Pope to grant a free city charter to Ostia and allow them to be admited into the League, which was done. Lucca, which felt threatened by Florence, also joined the league, and all the sudden we had a presence in Italy. This opened up the Med trade, and allowed trade between the Med and the Baltic. With the ability to act together and an absolute prohibition on trade tariffs between cities, Hanseatic trade picked up. Though the Levonian War lost the league it's position in that region, this was regarded as a f'et accompli, and the admirable performance of the league's navy and the Teutonic Knights in protecting Konigsburg and evacuating the Levonian knights from Riga proved that cooperative action had many benefits.

So, to sum up, the Hanseatic League has learned that joint cooperative action is in it's best interests. If we don't cooperate, the league can easily be destroyed and free cities can lose their autonomy. If we do cooperate, we preserve our autonomy and gain trade advantages. This was formalized in a grand council, which meets biannually in one of the thirds on a rotating basis, though it can be called into special cession.

[KineticBots]

1509: Ouchi Yoshioki rallies clans from around his home province of Suo who are loyal to Shogun Ashikaga Yoshitane. Pro Ouchi/Ashikaga clan leaders talk of forming a league to protect the unstable Shogunate, and their own positions of power in western Japan.

1510: This years marks the first major engagements in the pirate wars. Warships of the more seagoing clans of western Japan (Kyushu, Shikoku, Chugoku districts) are committed against pirates operating in Japanese waters. The policy of interception soon becomes more aggressive when ship captains are encouraged to pursue pirates into international waters. At first casualties among the Japanese are high, but they are soon reduced when they gain experience in naval warfare.

The Nambu clan establish more fishing villages and colonies on the east coast of Ezo (OTL now Hokkaido).

1511: The Nambu clan send a delegation of troops to explore the interior of Ezo and investigate ithe potential for trade, etc. The Nambu leaders are pleased with the reports but decide not to commit to any definate action.

1512: A Nambu flotilla explores the Chishima Islands and lands on Kitaezo (OTL now Sakhalin), meeting and trading with locals. Reports of the terrain, climate, and and environment are similar to those given of Ezo.

Later that year a second expedition circumnavigates Kitaezo. While passing between the narrowest point between the island and the mainland, they are forced ashore on the island by bad weather.

1514: Ouchi's league of clans formally declare for the Shoguante and form and alliance. the dominant members of the Union are the Ouchi, Mouri, Amako, and Hosokawa clans. Most of Chugoku region and Shikoku is under their control. Neither the Otomo or Shimazu of Kyushu formally declare for or against the Union.

1515: Clans in the east of Japan, fearful of the combined powers of the Union, enter in to their own confederacy. Led by the Hojo and with support from the Nambu, Uesugi, and Takeda clans as well as the recently emerged Miyamoto of Musashi and Arima of Shimotsuke, they have control of most of Kanto and Tohoku. Their goal, while not overt, is apparently the overthrow of the Ashikaga Shogunate.

1516: Given the recent series of events, the Nambu decide to formally annexe Ezo.

The political situation in the home islands begins to polarise. More clans in the west rally behind the Ouchi-led pro-Ashikaga union. Likewise, clans in the east join the Hojo-led confedaracy. The confederacy as yet has not formally declared that it is anti-Ashikaga.

Emperor Go-kashiwabara declares his distress at the political polarisation of the country. He urges both factions to seek unity, harmony, and peace, and to reconcile their differences.

1517: Major operations of the pirate wars in norther waters cease. They continue however, in the South China Sea, alongside the navy of Ryukyu. With major operations over, the warships return to ther home towns - most of these are in pro-union territory. This only leads to more confidence for the union and more concern for the confederacy.

1518: Fearful of being dragged in to either the pro- and anti- Ashikaga camps, a few minor clans living in and around Kyoto start promoting the idea of abolishing the Shogunate and reinstating the Emperor as supreme and absolute ruler of the country. These acts create a third party in the conflict.


That's all for now,

Regards,
KineticBots

[General_Paul]

1510: In the ten years since the imperial expedition to Taiwan, Ming businessmen located on the mainland had begun dispatching trade junks to Taiwan in hopes of raking in greater profits from the tribes of the area. Considering that, prior to the expedition in 1500, no privately owned Ming trading junks had made landfall in Taiwan for trading purposes, inroads to Taiwanese society were suprisingly easy to secure.

As the Hongzhi Emperor's attention was still focused on the situation in Manchuria with the Jurchens, many private business owners began to take advantage of the situation and started forming very small, privately funded armies of no more than 100-200 men to protect their trading interests on Taiwan and in other trading zones. These small 100-200 man armies in the future would morph into what would later be called mercenary armies, but for now they were just referred to as their, "little investments."

1511-1513: Chinese trading companies begin dispatching their, "little investments," to their growing trading posts on Taiwan and in the northern most Spratley Islands, still very much undeveloped and sparsley populated. While the islands themselves were of little value, their location allowed the larger trading junks to take on provisions before sailing south to Vietnam and the rest of South-East Asia. While the "little investments" made, ironically, little difference in the protection of business investments on Taiwan due to the 9,000 man Ming garrison permanently stationed on the island, the hired armies of 100-200 men made a large difference in securing trading posts and refurbishing stations in the Spratley Islands. With their successes in subduing what few natives existed in the area, some of the trading companies began devising the formation of larger armies to send to areas such as Indonesia, or perhaps to the Indian Sub-Continent, where Chinese trading goods were sold for top prices to both Arab and European merchants.

1514: The president of the "Xiao Trading Company," Xiao Li, died in March, leaving his son Xiao Lin to inherit control over the company. Lin decided to expand the company's warehouses in Guangzhou and neighboring Zhangzhou, as well as investing the large profits that the company had brought in via its Ryukyuan and Taiwanese trade routes into the construction of ship yards in Guangzhou on the Pearl River. The greatest of all changes initiated by Xiao Lin in his first year was the decision to dispatch Xiao trading junks, along with 150 men armed with the latest in musketry, crossbows, and cannons, to Pa-Outchow (Isle of Gems), the island of Sri Lanka to establish a trading post and secure a harbor.

1515: Fifteen trade junks and the 150 man expeditionary force of the Xiao Trading Company land on Pa-Outchow south-west of the city of Gimhathiththa (Galle) at the southern most tip of the island of Pa-Outchow. The Ming trade junks anchor themselves just off shore, offloading the 150 man force and setting themselves up close enough to fire their cannons in support of the expeditionary force should they run into any trouble. While many of the natives were highly suspicious of the intent of the armed expedition, the Xiao expedition was able to buy off many of the local tribes with gold, porcelain, and silk in exchange for securing the rights to construct a trading post on the coast. By the end of the year, the trading post on Pa-Outchow called 平安的沿海 (Peaceful Coast) was a hub of Xiao trading activities in the Indian Ocean.

(OOC: More to come later...)

[AJNolte]

Could you send them North? :)

***Kicks self in the head***
1514: a Kongolese mission--including Franciscans--is sent North.

[AJNolte]

This is not finnished. I still need to add international responses to a few things listed in here, as well as somethings with the Kongo.
Papacy and Kongo and Naples- Please PM me!
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1510 Spring: The "Decisione vittoriosa," is decided upon by King Diego and the Macota of the Kingdom of Ndongo-Matamba. In return for complete internal autonomy, and freedom to practice their own religions, over 4,000 Jaga Cassangi mercenaries are sent to finally destroy the Lunda empire, under to command of Prince Marcos, King Diego's brother.

1510 Summer: The King's eldest son, the Duke of Benguela, is betrothed to the daughter of the chief-king of the Lunda states, the king of Luba. She is christened Maria-Caterina, and upon marriage to the Prince, styled Duchess of Benguela. She brings with her a large dowry of iron ore, salt, and palm oil- main items of the Lunda state of Luba.

1510 Fall: A company of jungle-crusaders capture the Luba king, and revoke all treaties with him. With the other Lunda states captured, the Crusade has proven successfull. The king of Luba is executed in his capital immediatley after declaring his Catholic daughter, the Duchess of Benguela, "Empress of Lunda and Queen of Luba." The other Lunda states acknowledge her as their sovereign.

1510 Winter:
An extravagant three-week long celebration of victory in the Crusade and of Christmas is held in Ndongo. King Diego is crowned "Emperor of Lunda, King of Luba and Kazembe-Lunda," by the Bishop. Following the festivities, many missionaries and soldiers are sent into the Lunda states, forcing the peoples to either convert or die. Food supply is cut off to the quarantined states until the entire state is either converted or killed.

1511:
When King Diego orders the extermination of the entire Lunda and non-Catholic Matamban people, he is officially deposed by the Macota of Ndongo-Matamba, and the Kingdom is placed under the Regency of the former king's sister and brother-in-law Prince Marcos and Princess Maria-Joséphine. The Duke of Benguela is crowned "King Emmanuel II."

Prince Marcos, always the thinker, sends a delegation to be lead by his warrior-wife to Rome, to ask the Holy Father how the Kingdom should deal with non-Catholic Ndongolese-Matambans, and non-Catholic conquered peoples. Meanwhile, he and his Franciscan advisors divide the Lunda states into two provinces- In the north, Luba, and in the south, Lunda. Meanwhile, in order to thank the Kongo, he gives them the Kongolese-speaking kingdom of Ngoyo, and promises to lend soldiers to help the Kongolese in the conquering of the heathen empire of Luanda.

1512-1515: The Lunda province is established as the seat of the second diocese of the Roman Catholic Church in Ndongo- the Diocese of Inner Africa. The Bishop in Sao Rafael is re-titled Bishop of Sao Rafael, the Franciscans place on of their own as Bishop of Inner Africa. The missionaries work in Luba and Lunda proves more successful than in Matamba, and stories of monotheistic coastal landers on the other ocean are told of. Prince Marcos begins the Construction of Ndongo- that, is the beginning of building permanent structures and walled cities throughout the heartland of the kingdom- Ndongo. Co-Regent Princess Maria-Joséphine dies on the voyage home to Ndongo.

1516 Spring: Queen Maria-Caterina gives birth to a son, who is named Giuseppe. He is made Duke of Benguela. Prince-Regent Marcos marries a Jaga princess, against the will of the Macota.

1517 Summer: The Macota declare Prince Marcos unfit to be Regent. Captain Benedetto is declared "Regent of the Kingdom," and is made a Dicota (Privy Council member,) and declares himself his own Tendala, or chancellor, sending his Franciscan predecessor to convert the Luba. He dies on his way.

1518: Though a baptized Catholic, Captain Benedetto cares little for religion, and begins to focus on agriculture and mining. He grants more the Neapolitans exclusive trade over Ivory, and splits the products 60-40 with them. He also signs an alliance with the Bemba people, recognizing their sovereignty, and non-Catholic status as an African nation; ensuring peace on Ndongo-Matamba's southern border.

He then marries another Lunda princess, who's Christian name is Elisabetta. He makes himself Marquis of Dominio-Meridionale. He also establishes the Jaga Cassangi country as it's own province.

1519: King Emmanuell II takes power in his own, and sends Marquis Benedetto to Jaga Cassangi to serve as Governor. The King appoints a Catholic Matamban Franciscan monk as his tendala. The Queen gives birth to a daughter, who is named Princess Maria-Iosephina.

*Note- Actual control is only held in Ndongo, western and norther Matamba, and for now, in Lunda and Luba as they still ave lots of soldiers. Inner Matamba, as well as Jaga Cassangi, lower Luba are very much autonomous and resisting. As of now, the only tie they have to Sao Rafael is their acknowledgement of Emmanuel II as their King and Overlord.

Aussie:
Can you gi'me a PM?
Thanks.

[AJNolte]

No comments on the beginning (possibly) of the Reformation?

1517: Bertholt of Mainz dies, and is replaced by Henry Wettin, making him the highest authority in the German church. He is replaced in Trier by a friend of his, Johann vonStaupitz.
1519: Henry Wettin orders an immediate cesasion of the sale of indulgences within Germany. When asked to defend his actions by the Pope, Wettin writes his "Treatise on the Righteousness of God and Man", in which he claims that all righteousness which man possesses must come as a gift from God through Christ alone, and that, while it is the place of the church to uphold good doctrine and teaching and lead people to Christ, that salvation belongs to Christ Alone. Wettin quotes heavily from Augustine and other church fathers.
1520: Wettin's actions cause great controversy in the papacy, as theologians and cannon lawyers scramble to refute (and in a few cases confirm) his arguments. Stunningly forceful and popular polemics on Wettin's behalf are written, in German for mass consumption, by Martin Luther, and more scholarly stayed works are written by Melanchthon and Staupitz. Throughout Germany, the Wettinite ideas grow in popularity, and are combined with calls for a German liturgy, German Bibles and a violent reaction against hyper-scholasticism. Henry Wettin gets behind these reforms, quickly called the Evangelical Reform Concord officially and the Wettinite Manifesto unofficially. Duke Frederick of Saxony, Philip the Elector Palatine, the Duke of Mecklenburg and notables within the Wendish Federation also get behind the Wettinite movement, and many of the secular lords press for reforms within the Holy Roman Empire such as a universal diet, not unlike the estates in Saxony or the council in the Wendish Federation, which can both help better organize the empire and potentially check the power of the Emperor. (note: I need to know if Maximillian is still alive).

The papacy will respond...next week.

[Tom Veil]

Norasia:

1512: Smallpox breaks out among the Lenape and Mohicans along the Meryk River. The contagion rages like wildfire, turning whole villages into ghostly places. The suffering is terrible, and spreads as fast as word of the plague, impacting all the tribes in the region.


1512: A flesh-eating disease comes in from the east and rips through Haudenosaunee land, spreading as fast as a man can walk on the great roads, and into the Erie, Susequehanna, and Powhatan lands. The old and the young are especially hard-hit; remote villages fare best. Medicine masks have some effect in slowing the disease, but not nearly enough. Generally, there are only two kinds of survivors -- those who never got sick at all and those who battled back from the absolute brink of death. It is widely agreed that this is the great holocaust predicted in the poem "The Funeral."

[BlackMage]

This is retconning some of what I've said before, but it's much more plausible.

Yolgnu: The Collapse, 1510-1520

Yolgnu

By the end of the First Yolgnu War, Djerrkura had been established as paramount leader of the Yolgnu. This status was confirmed in the First Makaratta, which established him as bate, or prince, of Yolgnu.

Djerrkura was a warlord, and ruled his nation as such. Recognising the adaptability of the Gowan state system, he established a Yolgnu Bate Salapang, a parliament of respected elders and military leaders. The devastation of smallpox led to the realisation that, to prevent conquest by one of the ambitious military powers off the Australian coast, the traditional Yolgnu life was not, in the long term, viable.

Djerrkura's 'land clearance' policies were brutal, harsh but ultimately effective. Coastal tribes were forced into fishing settlements along the coast; as no crops had yet been established in Marege due to the inclement climate, their survival was dependent upon fluctuating fish stocks. The already imperilled Yolgnu population was put at further risk by growing exploitation of their waters. Each village maintained, to a degree, traditional forms of government, with a strong emphasis on respect for elders and tribal consensus. However, Djerrkura's authority was never seriously questioned.

Unfortunately, the maritime power that Djerrkura hoped to establish proved ultimately unstable. He was killed in a military coup in 1514, with subsequent warlords proving ineffective. The Yolgnu lacked the infrastructure or the stability for a lasting state, at least at this point; lacking writing, metallurgy, or close allies, the state was ultimately doomed.

By 1520, the Yolgnu nation had broken down into a series of coastal fishing villages, without any central authority. Each was ruled by a council of local elders, who ruled by consensus; however, technological development stagnated, and there was no serious attempt at the development of national forms. The first Yolgnu nation had collapsed.

1510:

In Kai Djawa, the first permanent Gowan trading station, for pearls and trepang, is established. Similar settlements are set up in Marege.

Macassan economic influence begins to spread inland through the use of proxies. The first treaty with an inland tribe is concluded, by which they will supply labour for technology and food.

1511:

The war enters its third year, with no signs of abating. In desperation, the Shahbandur (Gowan foreign minister) decides to enter into negotiations with the Yolgnu. The Yolgnu, heavily weakened by smallpox, agree.

In the First Makaratta (treaty), Djerrkura is recognised as bate (prince) of the Yolgnu, independent of Makassar but in a pact of permanent friendship. His allies are not so fortunate, with Gowa annexing the territory of any tribe to ally with the Yolgnu.

The ravages of smallpox force the tribes of Marege to gravitate towards the Gowan settlements along the coast, where they are given food for labour. They remain nominally independent, but the collapse of Yolgnu's alliances effectively grants the Gowans regional hegemony. Similar processes take place in Kai Djawa.

Meanwhile, Gowan praus continue to explore Marege, reaching the eastern side of OTL's Gulf of Carpentaria. Several trading stations are established, but many tribes, newly contacted, react badly to the intruders.

In Yolgnu, the population begin to gravitate to fishing settlements along the coast, established by Djerrkura.

1512:

Djerrkura's land clearance practices begin. Although they are widely unpopular, they serve to transform the Yolgnu from a primarily hunter-gatherer society into a fishing-based economy.

An attempted coup by Djerrkura's brother is put down harshly, but Djerrkura is seriously weakened.

1513:

A second outbreak of smallpox devastates the largest Yolgnu village, at Nhulumbuy. The Yolgnu's numbers are rapidly dwindling, making any state organisation ineffective.

1514:

The increasingly paranoid Djerrkura orders that all remaining nomadic Yolgnu be rounded up, on pain of death, and placed into the villages. By this point, his wounds and recurring smallpox have made him into a tyrant.

The Yolgnu council of elders, set up by Djerrkura to give some legitimacy to his rule,is dissolved, and its members massacred, for opposing Djerrkura.

1515:

Djerrkura is killed in a military coup. No effective organisation comes to replace him.

After this, recorded history for the Yolgnu as a united nation ceases, as they become a series of autonomous villages for some time. They continue to retain their technology through trade with the outside world, but any independent cultural development stagnates.

[DuQuense]

and are combined with calls for a German liturgy, German Bibles and a violent reaction against hyper-scholasticism.
Remembre at this time the Catholic church was bitterly opposed to the Idea of Local lanuage Bibles, They would burn the Bibles, Buyers, and Publishers together.

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/

[DuQuense]

Like his fellow rulers to the North Emperor Raya orders a complete survey of the Empire

1512
The trade disputes between Chola and Jaffna lead to Emperor Raya sending troops to conquer the Kingdom of Jaffna

He request help in this from the Portuguese that are moving in from the south.

In return He will grant some trade concessions in Pondicherry, allowing Portugal onto the east coast.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middl...anka_rel00.jpg

1516
The Empire has conquered the Kingdom of Jaffa.

1517
The Empire grants the Champas trading rights in a few East coast cities.

[DuQuense]

1510-1520
Ethiopia continues expanding to the South and East, The King grants land claims to Settlers, along the Borders,

1511
Due to Prince Eon, Christian Priests in Ethiopia begin calling the [Christian] Faithful to Prayers at the same time the Muslim Imans do.

--Prince Eon accompling His Father King Eslander to visit the shipyard in Djibouti listens to the Imans calling the Faithful to prayer, and asks his father-
?But Are Not Whe Christians, Also The Faithful of the Lord? ?Should Whe not also Pray?
Maybe it was the odd light in the Prince's Eyes but the King agreed.
This would be later considered Saint Eon's First Miracle.--

1513
Prince Eon takes a grand tour of Europe,

1513
Prince Eon visits the Patriarchs in Alexander & Constantinople, to his dismay He finds them more interested in Temporal matters, than in the problems of a Church 2~3,000 miles away.

In Constantinople, He begins reading the History of the Byzanatine Church

1514
Prince Eon visits Naples,

Ethiopia is very interested in inproving ties with Naples, as the Kingdom of Jerusalem lies at the top of the Red Sea,
and Naple's, Semi control, of Alexandria [along with the Knights of Rhodes] gives it control of the Nile Delta. [portage from the Red Sea]

1514
Several hundred Stone Masons from around Italy, are hired to move to Ethiopia.

1514
Ethiopia is locked in a struggle with Yemen to control the Red sea trade route.

1514
Prince Eon visits Rome and the Pope, He seeks permission for Ethiopian Scribes to copy some of the Vatican Library's Books.

1514
Several dozen Venatian Glass Blowers, mostly journeymen, move to Ethiopia.

1515
Ethiopia expands it's small settlement in the north of Madagascar, and increases its timber harvesting.

1515
Prince Eon visits France and England. He is accomplied by some of the English Adventurers King Henry had sent to Ethiopia back in 1503. As such he speaks perfect English.

He is interested in the two new orders [Merlin & the Bede]. but as in most countries spends most of his time talking to the Religious Scholars.

1515
19 years after first trying to get Gunsmiths, Ethiopia starts producing it's own Muskets, Mostly Bronze, as Steel is too expensive.

1516
Prince Eon visits Germany and Sweden. Where he meets Henry Wettin, and has several philisphical Conversations with him, and some of his supportors.

1516
The Arch Bishop of Ethiopia dies.

1517
Prince Eon arrives in Russia, Meeting the Tzar, but again spending most of his time with the Religious Scholars.

1517
King Eslander begins using some of the Knights of Rhodes [along with other Europeans] in the expanded mission to help train his new Musketeers.

1518
King Eslander, begins attemping to increase Ethiopia's Iron and Steel prodution.

1518
Prince Eon arrives Home, One of his first acts is to visit the just arrived new Arch-Bishop. No one knows what was said, or maybe it was the eyes again.
Two hours later the Bishop had resigned and left the country in Haste, the next day.

Two days later King Eslander appointed Prince Eon -Patriarch of the Ethiopian Church.
This would be know as the second Miracle.

1519
Patriarch Eon, establishes a Semimary . He also sets up a Order of Priests, for the training of Priests, and Teachers, and requires all Religious orders in Ethiopia to send some members to help.

[DuQuense]

1512
Juan Carlos Muhammad XIII --son of Boabdil Muhammad XII of Granada-- marries the Daughter of Mohammad Hasfid IV.

1515
Boabdil leads the Army as it reconquers Tlemcen. There Boabdil reconsiles with his mother on her deathbed.

OTL the Hasfids conquered Tlemcen several time in the 13 & 1400's, Unfortunitly they lacked the population to hold it against the Berbers to the south.
ATL with some 200,000 Jews from Spain and Portugal, having fled there in the 1490's, the Kingdom of New Granada now has the population to expand.

1518
Mohammad IV dies, and Muhammad XII becomes King of the Hasfids.

[Tom Veil]

1510 June: Raimal takes a celebratory tour along the first stretch of the Imperial Road to be completed, from Chittor to Mathura.
1512 March: Raimal dies. His obsession with government administration pays off, as there is no succession crisis. Prithviraj is crowned Rajamaharana, virtually all of the royal family and Imperial Advisory Chamber continue in their old posts.
1513: The Vāhigurū Sikh religion ends its period of mass conversions (Lord Prithviraj’s beloved Jainism takes a rare turn as the fastest-growning religion). Vāhigurū Sikh now enters a period of theological deepening and cultural cohesion, as the Great Guru devotes much of his time to encouraging his disciples to debate religious issues in order to discover which tenets were vital and which were merely custom. It is from this period that the Four Tenets – equal rights, meditation, work ethic, and communalism – emerge.
1516 December: The Imperial Road is finally finished. Thanks to the unprecedented investment in irrigation, it is a record year for Bharata farmers, and thanks to the brick-laid path, the farmers quite easily get their bumper crop to cities throughout the empire.
1517 January: Having completed his father’s great imperial project, Rajamaharana Prithviraj begins his own – a series of schools, one for every town with at least 50,000 people. Prithviraj declares that the schools are open to any citizen, regardless of age, creed, or gender (with proper decorum, of course), who can afford tuition. The Brahmin vow to avoid the schools, but the project is well-received by most other groups.

[Smaug]

1512: The Muisca begin to spread influence into OTL Trinidad, and the other Islands visible from its coasts. The Taino are instrumental in this work. Assistance from the Muisca against the Caribs, will hopefully draw the Arawak people to the Confederation.

The Zaque of the Muisca has received word that the Inka are gearing up for conquest. He sends an emissary to the Inka in the hope of strengthening ties between thier peoples. He sends his own weight in Emeralds and a variety of other trade goods in the hope of recieving information on the Inkas new method of writing and accounting, and stonemasons who can act as a cadre to his own growing engineering corp.

He promises trade concessions, and to share knowledge of the newcomers, and thier curious gadgets.


1514:The Zaque of the Muisca concludes the marriage of his daughter to the Chief of the Tairona, thus bringing most of Northern OTL Columbia into his confederation.

1516: The Zaque's "Maya", hears word of a mud pit that burns. A wild fire passed near OTL, Maracaibo. While the fire eventually burnt out, the black mud kept burning for weeks. The Maya has heard of people using it to waterproof boats, but didn't realize it could be used as a fuel. He begins to experiment with the substance, and to try to find more seeps.

1519: Attawalpa begins Consolidating his hold on Ecuador, and preparing to move north into the jungle. his previous small forays have ended in defeat. He is gathering more troops, more supplies, and more copper axes, and prepares to absolutely destroy the coastal peoples, and (hopefully meat the Muisca)(Hopefully he's not looking to turn us into food).

The Zaque makes arrangements to meet with Attawalpa or a minister of his choosing. He has high hopes of opening up new markets for his goods, and with ensuring that he and the Inka will be on friendly ground.

The disturbing tales he hears from the island peoples, being killed with fire sticks, horrible plaques, and massive canoes, that spit fire, goad him into insuring that he has powerful allies on the Mainland

[Keenir]

Vāhigurū Sikh now enters a period of theological deepening and cultural cohesion, as the Great Guru devotes much of his time to encouraging his disciples to debate religious issues in order to discover which tenets were vital and which were merely custom. It is from this period that the Four Tenets – equal rights, meditation, work ethic, and communalism – emerge.

equal rights for....most people, right?

(or are you including the Untouchables in that Tenet?)

Prithviraj declares that the schools are open to any citizen, regardless of age, creed, or gender (with proper decorum, of course), who can afford tuition. The Brahmin vow to avoid the schools, but the project is well-received by most other groups.

same theme as before - really anyone?

[Keenir]

overall, nice post.

one problem: this guy's doing an awful lot of travelling at a very fast rate...and what language is he communicating to all these people in? (ie, is he using the same language with the Roman and Constantinople Patriarchs as with the Venetian glassblowers?)

1513
Prince Eon visits the Patriarchs in Alexander & Constantinople, to his dismay He finds them more interested in Temporal matters, than in the problems of a Church 2~3,000 miles away.

wouldn't said problems be temporal as well? (if one emphasizes the distance)

Two days later King Eslander appointed Prince Eon -Patriarch of the Ethiopian Church.
This would be know as the second Miracle.

a Prince being appointed a Patriarch is a miracle? (is this contrary to Ethiopian Church practice?)

1519
Patriarch Eon, establishes a Semimary . He also sets up a Order of Priests, for the training of Priests, and Teachers, and requires all Religious orders in Ethiopia to send some members to help.

why set up a new Order, if you've just mandated all Orders help? (I'm confused)

[Keenir]

question about the Ming -- what happened to make them suddenly accept foreigners as their equals?

(what happened to their tradition of giving "gifts" to their neighbors, and recieving "tribute" in return?)

[Keenir]

Summer 1515: Nina Cuyuchi suffers a defeat by the hands of the jungle tribes.

why was he fighting the jungle tribes? was the Incan divergence before the Incas started using jungle tribes as arrow-weilding mercenaries?

he begins pondering whether to open up other classes, such as engineering, math, religion, health, and the sciences. unfortunately he is running out of money,

he's a direct descendant of the Sun -- what does he need money for?

[Keenir]

Domestic:
1517: May: Although welcoming the promise of friendship from Constantine son of Cem, Emperor Ahmed still insists on Constantine coming to the court of Constantinople – as the boy never did come as summoned upon Ahmed learning of Constantine’s existence (it’s the one request D’Aubusson never fulfilled).

International:
1510: When the Russian Prince Vasili arrives in Constantinople, he is met in the throne room not just by Emperor Ahmed and Princess Fatima (who will marry the Russian), but also by a descendant of the Shishemid Tsars of Bulgaria – Ahmed is hoping that this gentle reminder is sufficient: unspoken is “my family and yours aren’t the only ones with a claim to this City.” To mark this day, the provinces of Albania and Bulgaria begin construction on their own shipyards, intended to supplement the docking locations elsewhere in the Empire. Also, work begins on a Russian Orthodox cathedral intended for the use of those who came with Prince Vasili…and Vasili is reminded that the Russian Orthodox in his party are his responsibility.

December 1513: Emperor Ahmed signs his name alongside the Catholic and Orthodox patriarchs of Constantinople, who have penned a letter of question to the originator of the Fredericksburg Decree; their question: what status do Eastern Christians have in this Fredericksburg, and are they as well invited to settle?

Ramadan in 1514: Marriage of Princess Fatima of the Ottoman Empire to Prince Vasili of the Russian Empire. The Tsar is given plans (and tutors) so he can add al scaloccio techniques to those employed by the Russian fleet; the Emperor is hoping for – in reciprocation – the secret of the shaykas. As per treaty, Prince Vasili is given the title “Father of Caesars.” The Russian Orthodox are proclaimed a new millet under the Emperor.

1517: Emperor Ahmed sends congratulations to the newly-crowned King Fillipo “The Turk”.

[Atom]

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why was he fighting the jungle tribes? was the Incan divergence before the Incas started using jungle tribes as arrow-weilding mercenaries?
Well, nina Cuyuchi decided that to prove his worth he needed toconquer something, and Ecuado was too far way, and although Chile needs pacification, thats not very gloriuos. So he heads into the jungles of OTL peru. he is probably using mercenaries. His venture is not very succesful.

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he's a direct descendant of the Sun -- what does he need money for?
Sure he is tthe son of the sun,..along with 30 other people. And he is not the favorite of his father, so he needs money. He is rich, but he's not that rich.

[Keenir]

Sure he is tthe son of the sun,..along with 30 other people. And he is not the favorite of his father, so he needs money.

I'm kinda surprised neither his brothers nor his father is even trying to get rid of him -- his "getting money" from the nobles and priests, could be viewed as raising support for himself...support that builds a power base from which he can challenge his father and-or his brothers.

just a thought.

[DuQuense]

one problem: this guy's doing an awful lot of travelling at a very fast rate..
I don't consider taking 5 years to tour Europe even in the 1500's as moving that fast.

.and what language is he communicating to all these people in? (ie, is he using the same language with the Roman and Constantinople Patriarchs as with the Venetian glassblowers?)

Prince Eon speakes Latin, Greek, Arab, Italian, [there were Itialians in Ethiopia when the Portuguese arrived in 1488] Portuguese, English [Adventurers send by the English King], and has the skill to pick up others.

@DuQuense
1513
Prince Eon visits the Patriarchs in Alexander & Constantinople, to his dismay He finds them more interested in Temporal matters, than in the problems of a Church 2~3,000 miles away.
wouldn't said problems be temporal as well? (if one emphasizes the distance)

Technically OTL the Ethiopian Church is subverant to the Patriarch of Alexandria
The P of A is suppose to appoint a Arch Bishop, to controll the church

One of the Major complants of the Ethiopian Orthodox churchs is the fact that for ever since the Muslims took Eygpt. It can take up to [at time of this TL] 4-5 years for a new Arch Bishop to be appointed. and the ones that where appointed never took their duties seriously
I plan more about this in next decade.
But there are records of the Bishop gathering several Hundred young men [late teens] in a courtyard, waving his hands from his balcony and proclaiming them Preists, and sending them home. to take over the village church.

A Prince being appointed a Patriarch is a miracle? (is this contrary to Ethiopian Church practice?)
Prince Eon is the son of one of King Eslander's Conubines--The title is honorary.
Eon is the First Pathriarch. Church pratice is very nubelous, see the illiterate16 ~17 year old being appointed Priests.
The Miracle is the speed this happens, within days of returning --He convinces his Father to Appoint him Patriarch, and break with Alexandria/Constantinople

1519
Patriarch Eon, establishes a Semimary . He also sets up a Order of Priests, for the training of Priests, and Teachers, and requires all Religious orders in Ethiopia to send some members to help.
why set up a new Order, if you've just mandated all Orders help? (I'm confused)

Patriarch Eon is trying to bring order to the Church, and the orders are not just Orthodox or Catholic, but also Muslim Imans, and Indian Brahmans.

Plus some one has to as Whe will not have the Jesuits [no French/Spanish war for Loyotla to get wounded in]

In case the reference to the Eyes didn't hint--Eon is a Religious Freak- Fanatic is to negitive a term, and Eon is all about the positive.

[Keenir]

I don't consider taking 5 years to tour Europe even in the 1500's as moving that fast.

if he were just touring Europe, I'd agree with you.

but you've got Prince Eon going through libraries, holding discussions with religious and lay leaders, conducting business transactions and learning new languages.

it's one thing to learn to say "could you please pass the salt?"....and another to learn to argue how many angels dance on the head of a pin.
(I'm not kidding -- I was surprised to learn that one of the main points of difference between Orthodoxy and Catholocism comes down to two words in English:
"of one being with the Father"
"of one beng from the Father")

Prince Eon speakes Latin, Greek, Arab, Italian, [there were Itialians in Ethiopia when the Portuguese arrived in 1488] Portuguese, English [Adventurers send by the English King], and has the skill to pick up others.

Eon is the First Pathriarch. Church pratice is very nubelous, see the illiterate16 ~17 year old being appointed Priests.

point made.

Patriarch Eon is trying to bring order to the Church, and the orders are not just Orthodox or Catholic, but also Muslim Imans, and Indian Brahmans.

ah, okay.

In case the reference to the Eyes didn't hint-

must've missed that; sorry.

-Eon is a Religious Freak- Fanatic is to negitive a term, and Eon is all about the positive.

everyone thinks they're all about the positive. :D;)

[Tom Veil]

equal rights for....most people, right?

(or are you including the Untouchables in that Tenet?)

same theme as before - really anyone?

Equal rights for anyone. OTL Guru Nanak Dev rejected the concept of untouchables, and OTL Sikhism treats equality as almost as important as the Three Tenets.

The reason that Brahmin vowed to avoid the schools is that, theoretically, the schools will admit Muslims and Untouchables (with proper decorum, of course). In practice, most Muslims will go elsewhere and no Untouchable could even dream of affording tuition.

Prithviraj is continuing a centuries-old tradition among Indian emperors of annoying the Brahmin in order to secure the loyalty of the "heterodox" groups -- Jains, merchants, etc. The caste system won't suffer a real threat, though, unless India has another ~100 years of prosperity and the most successful among the farmer or laborer classes can start to afford tuition.

[General_Paul]

question about the Ming -- what happened to make them suddenly accept foreigners as their equals?

(what happened to their tradition of giving "gifts" to their neighbors, and recieving "tribute" in return?)

Well, they aren't accepting foreigners as their equals so much as the Hongzhi Emperor is following through with his promise to the Ryukyuans to force the Taiwanese locals to pay indemnities owed to the Ryukyuans for the murders of crew members on that fleet that crashed on Taiwan. Plus, the Ryukyuans tecnically already gave the Ming tribute when the Ryukyuans sent tribute to the emperor to celebrate the birth of his son in 1498.

So, the Ming agreeing to go on the expedition to Taiwan is the emperor's way of saying thanks for the tribute and his way of showing that he sticks to his agreements when he says he'll do something. If you really want to get down to the core of the issue, the Ryukyuans have been a vassal state of the Ming for at least a century, if not longer, by the time that the Taiwan Expedition is sent out. Thus, the emperor is entirely justified in his agreement to send the expedition to Taiwan.

[Psychomeltdown]

1510-1520
Ethiopia continues expanding to the South and East, The King grants land claims to Settlers, along the Borders, The Somalian coast lies under Portuguese claims, up the the horn of africa.


1514
Prince Eon visits Naples,

Ethiopia is very interested in inproving ties with Naples, as the Kingdom of Jerusalem lies at the top of the Red Sea,
and Naple's, Semi control, of Alexandria [along with the Knights of Rhodes] gives it control of the Nile Delta. [portage from the Red Sea]
It would be better if the Ethiopians would openly and beggingly seek the Portuguese help, since the Portuguese can and will come to Ethiopia by 1515, drawn by the fact that they're beginning to produce stuff and also for the reason that once your ships begin paddling the Indian Ocean, you'll be a threat to their trading monopoly.

The Portuguese would be willing to help, if the Ethiopians did no more than become a trading depot for the Red Sea and Middle East. And if they directed their energies into combating the Muslims in Africa.

Naples would be a bad ally, since it can't really offer you much help, due to logistics.

The reason the Portuguese have been ignoring the Ethiopians is simply that they had nothing to offer them and their energies were directed more toward the spice trade and crushing Muslim trading. But now like the Kongo, they're realizing you're becoming something of a possible hindrance to their continued success.

1514
Ethiopia is locked in a struggle with Yemen to control the Red sea trade route.
Portugal has been in a fight with them since about the middle of 1505 and has managed to cripple much of their trading by 1515.

They've been able to send more ships and do a lot more against muslim traders since..

1. Peace in India. the Vijayanagara empire and Bharata empire have managed to somewhat unify the continent thereby snuffing out the smaller powers that had challenged the Portuguese in the first decades they were there.

2. More organized and planned out attacks. De Gama consolidated his positions before sending out attacks against others, unlike OTL where it was basically attack everyone and see what we could get away with. De Gama was more orientated into keeping things running smoothly and not over stretching their capabilities. there. A lot of that had to do with the fact that India was more unified, which made him realize he can't piss them off too much or they get snuffed out.

3. Bharata bases in Gujarat. Bharata empire let the Portuguese continue their fight against the Muslims from arabia from the ports they controlled.

4. Control of Hormuz. It's been conquered on the first try and heavily reinforced.

1515
Ethiopia expands it's small settlement in the north of Madagascar, and increases its timber harvesting.

East Coast of Africa belongs to the Portuguese. The sultanates there have either been conquered or cowed and the Ports aren't gonna be happy that someone else is setting up towns and whatnot in the lands they claim as their own.



Prithviraj is continuing a centuries-old tradition among Indian emperors of annoying the Brahmin in order to secure the loyalty of the "heterodox" groups -- Jains, merchants, etc. The caste system won't suffer a real threat, though, unless India has another ~100 years of prosperity and the most successful among the farmer or laborer classes can start to afford tuition.
How likely is it that peace will continue in India? You've got two massively large empires and they're basically stretched by having to keep several once independent kingdoms from rebelling. And those former kingdoms are thinking of rebelling, they're not just going to be sitting around and happily taking up the ways of their rulers. I see a succession of revolts happening throughout the beginning of the 1520s that begin escalating and escalating.

[marl_d]

Ramadan in 1514: Marriage of Princess Fatima of the Ottoman Empire to Prince Vasili of the Russian Empire. The Tsar is given plans (and tutors) so he can add al scaloccio techniques to those employed by the Russian fleet; the Emperor is hoping for – in reciprocation – the secret of the shaykas. As per treaty, Prince Vasili is given the title “Father of Caesars.” The Russian Orthodox are proclaimed a new millet under the Emperor.


um.....what are you asking for?

[Keenir]

Well, they aren't accepting foreigners as their equals so much as the Hongzhi Emperor is following through with his promise to the Ryukyuans to force the Taiwanese locals to pay indemnities
Plus, the Ryukyuans tecnically already gave the Ming tribute when the Ryukyuans sent tribute to the emperor to celebrate the birth of his son in 1498.
So, the Ming agreeing to go on the expedition to Taiwan is the emperor's way of saying thanks for the tribute and his way of showing that he sticks to his agreements when he says he'll do something.
Thus, the emperor is entirely justified in his agreement to send the expedition to Taiwan.

okay.

my apologies; I seem to have (again) misread or skipped-in-reading part of the entries.

[Keenir]

Ramadan in 1514: Marriage of Princess Fatima of the Ottoman Empire to Prince Vasili of the Russian Empire. The Tsar is given plans (and tutors) so he can add al scaloccio techniques to those employed by the Russian fleet; the Emperor is hoping for – in reciprocation – the secret of the shaykas. As per treaty, Prince Vasili is given the title “Father of Caesars.” The Russian Orthodox are proclaimed a new millet under the Emperor.


um.....what are you asking for?

a type of boat, able to navigate in extremely shallow water, even rivers. in OTL, Cossaks in these boats were the nightmare of the Ottoman navy.

[Keenir]

International:
December 1513: Emperor Ahmed signs his name alongside the Catholic and Orthodox patriarchs of Constantinople, who have penned a letter of question to the originator of the Fredericksburg Decree; their question: what status do Eastern Christians have in this Fredericksburg, and are they as well invited to settle?

1517: Emperor Ahmed sends congratulations to the newly-crowned King Fillipo “The Turk”.

1517 April - Emperor Ahmed, aboard the best ship in the Ottoman navy, sails to Naples (the vast majority of Ottoman naval ships are in attendance), presenting King Fillipo with a pet leopard from the wilds of Anatolia.

1517 late June - Emperor Ahmed and the fleet sail up to Rome. En route, he sends messengers to the beys and begs of the African coast west of the Mamluks, calling upon them to prepare their ships for battle against the unholiest of infidels: the infidel who stands in the path of the Righteous, who harasses the Faithful, and who seeks to drive toward the Holy City itself